Paul Williams

[Ibis Wingz]

Remember, this is the same ******* who played Highsmith over Carter all of 2013.

Just because a guy has a whistle around his neck doesn't mean he always makes the right decision on personnel. I point you to **** Davis choosing to play Dyril McMillan over Edgerrin James when it was clear to everyone who had been to practice that EJ was a special talent. How about playing Ryan Clement over Scott Covington? These guys aren't infallible.

I am not defending Paul Williams, but I would be stunned if he wasn't teaching his players to play the ball while it's in the air.

 

[AntwanJ306]

Just stop. UM's schemes are busted. The players may make some mental errors out there, but the schemes are atrocious. Our defensive philosophy is so sound that one of its originators is now a color commentator for CFB games after getting fired mid-season by Paul Johnson. Our offensive coordinator is absolutely the worst play caller alive. Patrick Nix laughs at Coley. A good coach could win big with our players. Unfortunately, we don't have a good coach.

Then start a thread about schemes. This thread is about something as simple as looking back at a thrown ball. If you have to be "coached" to be able to do that, then you don't belong at this level.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

This thread is about something as simple as looking back at a thrown ball. If you have to be "coached" to be able to do that, then you don't belong at this level.

I agree with that. You would think that all of these guys were dominant players in HS who had many picks in HS and that they would know how to play the ball while its in the air.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Howard and Burns should not be getting beat or flagged against FAMU and Arky St. There were plays to be made, they were in the position to make them and they did not.

Williams or no Williams - they should be good enough to make those plays, same with Bush and Carter on the tackles, when they are put in the position to make them.

This is not about choir boys or savages or Sean Taylor or AJ Highsmith, it is about two highly rated SFL players not getting it done on the field when it comes their way.

 

[ScubaCane]

Howard and Burns should not be getting beat or flagged against FAMU and Arky St. There were plays to be made, they were in the position to make them and they did not.

Williams or no Williams - they should be good enough to make those plays, same with Bush and Carter on the tackles, when they are put in the position to make them.

This is not about choir boys or savages or Sean Taylor or AJ Highsmith, it is about two highly rated SFL players not getting it done on the field when it comes their way.

This, these guys are elite athletes and yet they look like me trying to cover when the ball is in the air, absolutely clueless.

 

[AllAboutDaU]

Vernon Hargreaves and Tracy Howard were both the top corners coming out of high school. Difference is Hargreaves is a complete stud and Howard looks lost. Plus Howard is a year older.

 

[AllAboutDaU]

Also all the subs the coaches make don't help. The coaches make conditioning a major point in the off season, So pick the best back 4 and let them play the majority of the game. I feel the like no DB gets more than 3-4 plays at a time.

 

[58straight]

I doubt he's not teaching it.

But I am positive he's not teaching it effectively. For ten years we have looked like a team with practice hours restrictions.

And Williams hasn't been here for ten years. But we have put dumb M-D kids out there for ten years. Which one seems to be the common link?

you are a clown so now the problem with miami is that too many players are from miami and they are dumb? how can you of all people judge any one's intelligence? last week you called the players thugs you are not even a canes fan why are you here you racist piece of ****?

 

[gfer1988]

How 'bout holding the kids accountable for once?

It's one thing to say that our scheme sucks, it's another thing to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching basic fundamentals.

This is the best post in this thread. I never here guys hold the players accountable it's players habits. They can execute and look Iike all stars in practice get in the game and do the same thing. There awareness is really bad. All the top corners have something in common is instincts and ball play. They don't have either most of time. they are talented as he'll but it's not translating.I'm unsure of Paul Williams DB skills but Brandon Harris , Brandon McGee both got drafted.

pretty sure paul williams wasn't here when brandon harris was and brandon mcgee (while a great athlete) didn't have great fundamentals. don't know why so many on this board think that coaches can't help players sharpen and improve their technique. if you've played football then you know there's those coaches that go the extra mile in teaching the fundamentals and those that concentrate more on just knowing the playbook and position responsibilities. you can't argue with the on the field results. if most to all of our guys struggle to execute finding the ball in the air that is coaching or lack there of. logically speaking what are the chances that every db we recruit naturally sucks at that skill. and if that were the case than it would still be a coaching issue as they evaluate the talent.

They don't all "suck" at that skill. It's hyperbole.

Obviously I know that coaching helps sharpen technique and skill, but to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching something as simple as defending the ball while it's in the air is just plain dumb.

well can you tell me the last time one of court cbs intercepted a pass where there had their back to the ball and turned around to locate and pick the pass off? and it's as plain dumb as assuming most of our dbs don't use this technique just becasue. even though some of those recruits clearly did it in highschool. for some reason there just isn't an emphasis on our guys executing that.

 

[NVA CANE]

I am starting to think that I would rather have a smart football player who is a step slower than these Miami-Dade athletes who don't really understand the game after playing street ball in high school. Going by the measurables is what sank Larry Coker.

Of course you would, it might improve our US News ranking that you fap to on a daily basis.

Bama and LSU and FSU have no problem taking these "fast and dumb" kids and making them savages on the field.

Ten years of blaming the kids for all being busts. Every program wanted these kids. It isn't a coincidence that ten years in a row our elite recruits end up underwhelming.

Alabama has exactly four (4) kids from the entire south Florida region on their roster. Same with LSU. Four (4). FSU has about ten M-D kids. See, when you take a dumb Miami-Dade kid and surround him with 80+ kids who were taught football in high school, they tend to blend in because someone else can make up for their mental mistakes. The raw talent can do its thing. But when you put an entire unit out there that hails from Miami, you can expect to be out-coached every single time. SOMEONE on the field has to have some mental awareness of what is going on.

More racist and nonsensical rants from the board racist.

 

[weownfsu]

Miami is the only school who got a bunch of 4 star DB's that didn't know how to look at the ball when it's in the air. Just bad luck.

 

[NVA CANE]

Miami is the only school who got a bunch of 4 star DB's that didn't know how to look at the ball when it's in the air. Just bad luck.

Lock thread. Perfectly said and succinct.

 

[AntwanJ306]

you are a clown so now the problem with miami is that too many players are from miami and they are dumb?

Yes, they are dumb football players. The schemes at inner city Miami high schools aren't all that complex. Take a bunch of kids who never had to learn high school-level schemes and throw them into D1 level football and they are lost.

You guys are actually agreeing with me and you don't even know it. You want to blame the DB coach.......do you think that coaches around the country have to teach their DBs that it is a good idea to look for the football?

 

[Fountain of Canes]

Here is Golden Take about our Secondary from the game. He was spot on which i was really surprised about. but he did gave some of his soft BS to protect the players or seemed he wasnt talking bad about them.


In terms of the secondary, tackling and coverage can be a little bit of an issue. How do you clean that up?

“I thought tackling our tackling was really good to be honest with you. I thought our tackling was good. I think where we got in trouble a couple of times, there were two PIs that were rightfully called. In both of those situations, the corner’s in great position and we’ve got to get our hand off the receiver down the field or just get our hand lower. We ended up putting our hands up high on the shoulder and that’s going to be called every time. We did not need to do that either time. We need to trust our technique there, have some poise down the field and look up for the ball and in both of those instances, we will not get the call. On two other plays down the field, we had really good coverage. The quarterback scrambled and threw it up there and I thought on both of those occasions, we could have made a better play and finished through the ball..On both of those occasions, our free safety in man coverage could have came and either intercepted it or drove right through the ball. I think in those cases, criticism warranted. From your standpoint, from our standpoint, we definitely have to correct those plays, those four or five plays that I just mentioned, but I think overall, our tackling was pretty good. I think a couple of times, Jamal [Carter] stopped on the perimeter and he can’t do that and another time, Deon [Bush] did. That’s a lot of opportunities, so I don’t want to get lost in 89 plays that there was a couple of tackles that I would like for us to do a better job when overall, our tackling was pretty good.”


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...-over-arkansas-state-20140914,0,7776100.story

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Vernon Hargreaves and Tracy Howard were both the top corners coming out of high school. Difference is Hargreaves is a complete stud and Howard looks lost. Plus Howard is a year older.

Hargreaves has much better closing speed.

 

[OBLIVION]

Our DB's coming into the season was suppose to be a strength. These guys are looking like 1 star bums and it is because of what is being asked of them.

Howard and Burns are probably wishing they made another choice.

 

[weownfsu]

you are a clown so now the problem with miami is that too many players are from miami and they are dumb?

Yes, they are dumb football players. The schemes at inner city Miami high schools aren't all that complex. Take a bunch of kids who never had to learn high school-level schemes and throw them into D1 level football and they are lost.

You guys are actually agreeing with me and you don't even know it. You want to blame the DB coach.......do you think that coaches around the country have to teach their DBs that it is a good idea to look for the football?

None of these DB's we recruited got interceptions in high school because they didn't look for the ball, and Nick Saban dropped Artie Burns because he knew Burns never looked for the ball.

 

[OBLIVION]

Where's Gunter?

Getting beat on 3rd and long

 

[OBLIVION]

Vernon Hargreaves and Tracy Howard were both the top corners coming out of high school. Difference is Hargreaves is a complete stud and Howard looks lost. Plus Howard is a year older.

Hargreaves has much better closing speed.

Put Howard on UF defense and dudes here would be wetting their panties wishing he would have signed with us.

 

[weownfsu]

Vernon Hargreaves and Tracy Howard were both the top corners coming out of high school. Difference is Hargreaves is a complete stud and Howard looks lost. Plus Howard is a year older.

Hargreaves has much better closing speed.

Put Howard on UF defense and dudes here would be wetting their panties wishing he would have signed with us.

Nah. Howard didn't play in a complicated enough scheme in high school. They weren't required to look for the ball. That type of skill is taught only in the most complex schemes by true football scientists.