Paul Williams

[FrancisSawyer]

This guy needs to resign. Our DBs have zero interceptions through 12 quarters if I'm not mistaken. I understand that some of it is related to the scheme but I am very disappointed in Howard and Burns. Those guys could have gone anywhere but they've done NOTHING!! NOTHING!!! THEY'VE DONE NOTHING!!!

Fans can be critical and over analyze everything. We asked for more man coverage and that is what we have been playing a lot lately. When you play man it is understood that plays will be given up. Out of 80 plus snaps you can only point out a few plays. If you want the defense to play aggressive, don't whine about the hand full of plays they may give up.

Super you are missing the point. The corners look completely lost and befuddled when the ball is in the air. None of them ever make plays on the ball. The most disturbing part of this is that every single player in that secondary should be a natural fit in a man scheme and they look like fish out of water. Howard, Crawford, Bush, Burns, Carter, and Elder. That's top level talent that could have gone anywhere. We have a serious coaching problem.

 

[Coach Macho]

All of those guys you just named have been toasted in man coverage at some point in the past couple seasons. It ain't a "fix all". You need to run zone. You create more turnovers in zone.

 

[Fountain of Canes]

How 'bout holding the kids accountable for once?

It's one thing to say that our scheme sucks, it's another thing to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching basic fundamentals.

This is the best post in this thread. I never here guys hold the players accountable it's players habits. They can execute and look Iike all stars in practice get in the game and do the same thing. There awareness is really bad. All the top corners have something in common is instincts and ball play. They don't have either most of time. they are talented as he'll but it's not translating.I'm unsure of Paul Williams DB skills but Brandon Harris , Brandon McGee both got drafted.

 

[gfer1988]

How 'bout holding the kids accountable for once?

It's one thing to say that our scheme sucks, it's another thing to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching basic fundamentals.

This is the best post in this thread. I never here guys hold the players accountable it's players habits. They can execute and look Iike all stars in practice get in the game and do the same thing. There awareness is really bad. All the top corners have something in common is instincts and ball play. They don't have either most of time. they are talented as he'll but it's not translating.I'm unsure of Paul Williams DB skills but Brandon Harris , Brandon McGee both got drafted.

pretty sure paul williams wasn't here when brandon harris was and brandon mcgee (while a great athlete) didn't have great fundamentals. don't know why so many on this board think that coaches can't help players sharpen and improve their technique. if you've played football then you know there's those coaches that go the extra mile in teaching the fundamentals and those that concentrate more on just knowing the playbook and position responsibilities. you can't argue with the on the field results. if most to all of our guys struggle to execute finding the ball in the air that is coaching or lack there of. logically speaking what are the chances that every db we recruit naturally sucks at that skill. and if that were the case than it would still be a coaching issue as they evaluate the talent.

 

[Coach Macho]

How 'bout holding the kids accountable for once?

It's one thing to say that our scheme sucks, it's another thing to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching basic fundamentals.

This is the best post in this thread. I never here guys hold the players accountable it's players habits. They can execute and look Iike all stars in practice get in the game and do the same thing. There awareness is really bad. All the top corners have something in common is instincts and ball play. They don't have either most of time. they are talented as he'll but it's not translating.I'm unsure of Paul Williams DB skills but Brandon Harris , Brandon McGee both got drafted.

pretty sure paul williams wasn't here when brandon harris was and brandon mcgee (while a great athlete) didn't have great fundamentals. don't know why so many on this board think that coaches can't help players sharpen and improve their technique. if you've played football then you know there's those coaches that go the extra mile in teaching the fundamentals and those that concentrate more on just knowing the playbook and position responsibilities. you can't argue with the on the field results. if most to all of our guys struggle to execute finding the ball in the air that is coaching or lack there of. logically speaking what are the chances that every db we recruit naturally sucks at that skill. and if that were the case than it would still be a coaching issue as they evaluate the talent.

They don't all "suck" at that skill. It's hyperbole.

Obviously I know that coaching helps sharpen technique and skill, but to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching something as simple as defending the ball while it's in the air is just plain dumb.

 

[miamifan007]

Where's Gunter?

 

[NVA CANE]

How 'bout holding the kids accountable for once?

It's one thing to say that our scheme sucks, it's another thing to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching basic fundamentals.

This is the best post in this thread. I never here guys hold the players accountable it's players habits. They can execute and look Iike all stars in practice get in the game and do the same thing. There awareness is really bad. All the top corners have something in common is instincts and ball play. They don't have either most of time. they are talented as he'll but it's not translating.I'm unsure of Paul Williams DB skills but Brandon Harris , Brandon McGee both got drafted.

Thats because its an across the board problem with the DBs. If it were one or two players, we would be talking about those players. But we have kids that the top programs in the country wanted, that look lost. Not just one kid, but Burns, Bush, Howard, (I believe) Carter, all of those kids were recruited by top programs. So to say they don't have instincts or they aren't football players and are just athletic is bull****.

They obviously had something that the Bamas, LSU's, and Floridas of the world wanted them. Does anyone doubt that if they went to those other schools that they wouldn't be balling out. Or that if Vernon Hargraves III came to Miami he wouldn't be as good as he is at UF. Its 100% coaching and nothing else. Whatever they are teaching these kids, its doing a disservice because kids that were highly rated and highly thought of look lost across the board. Thats not a coincidence or a player problem. Thats a coaching problem.

Same with tackling, same with penalties, same with special teams. You can point to the players all you want, but in the end the buck stops with the coaches.

 

[Loafers]

How 'bout holding the kids accountable for once?

It's one thing to say that our scheme sucks, it's another thing to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching basic fundamentals.

This is the best post in this thread. I never here guys hold the players accountable it's players habits. They can execute and look Iike all stars in practice get in the game and do the same thing. There awareness is really bad. All the top corners have something in common is instincts and ball play. They don't have either most of time. they are talented as he'll but it's not translating.I'm unsure of Paul Williams DB skills but Brandon Harris , Brandon McGee both got drafted.

Thats because its an across the board problem with the DBs. If it were one or two players, we would be talking about those players. But we have kids that the top programs in the country wanted, that look lost. Not just one kid, but Burns, Bush, Howard, (I believe) Carter, all of those kids were recruited by top programs. So to say they don't have instincts or they aren't football players and are just athletic is bull****.

They obviously had something that the Bamas, LSU's, and Floridas of the world wanted them. Does anyone doubt that if they went to those other schools that they wouldn't be balling out. Or that if Vernon Hargraves III came to Miami he wouldn't be as good as he is at UF. Its 100% coaching and nothing else. Whatever they are teaching these kids, its doing a disservice because kids that were highly rated and highly thought of look lost across the board. Thats not a coincidence or a player problem. Thats a coaching problem.

Same with tackling, same with penalties, same with special teams. You can point to the players all you want, but in the end the buck stops with the coaches.

You have valid points in that there are techniques that a coach can help a player with. Turning around and playing the ball is not one of them. It is instinctual. I can see video sessions after the game. Williams" Great job Artie on not looking back as the ball whizzed right by your ear. Just like I taught you." "Tracy fantastic. Look at this play right here. Their QB throws a softer higher pass than Jacory and it flutters for what seems like 10 seconds but you maintained discipline and kept your back to the ball so the wr could catch it." Even if they dont do a good job at instilling this in their CB's, as a player wouldnt u turn around. I mean a coach coaches, but you guys act like these players wouldnt know how to wipe their *** if a coach didnt show them in practice. Like any job, a person brings their own skills and then has a mentor,teacher,coach etc help build on those skills. These kids arent molded from scratch. I liken it to pocket presence for a qb. It is an innate skill. Sure you can help the QB a little, but he either has it or he doesnt.

 

[FrancisSawyer]

All of those guys you just named have been toasted in man coverage at some point in the past couple seasons. It ain't a "fix all". You need to run zone. You create more turnovers in zone.

Coach, that really wasn't my point though. I don't look at man as a fix all but after following these kids from HS they should be more effective in man than what they have shown.
Look I respect your opinions. What are your thoughts on the secondary? What is it that you see? I'd like to hear your insight as to what is a matter with these DBs.

 

[NVA CANE]

How 'bout holding the kids accountable for once?

It's one thing to say that our scheme sucks, it's another thing to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching basic fundamentals.

This is the best post in this thread. I never here guys hold the players accountable it's players habits. They can execute and look Iike all stars in practice get in the game and do the same thing. There awareness is really bad. All the top corners have something in common is instincts and ball play. They don't have either most of time. they are talented as he'll but it's not translating.I'm unsure of Paul Williams DB skills but Brandon Harris , Brandon McGee both got drafted.

Thats because its an across the board problem with the DBs. If it were one or two players, we would be talking about those players. But we have kids that the top programs in the country wanted, that look lost. Not just one kid, but Burns, Bush, Howard, (I believe) Carter, all of those kids were recruited by top programs. So to say they don't have instincts or they aren't football players and are just athletic is bull****.

They obviously had something that the Bamas, LSU's, and Floridas of the world wanted them. Does anyone doubt that if they went to those other schools that they wouldn't be balling out. Or that if Vernon Hargraves III came to Miami he wouldn't be as good as he is at UF. Its 100% coaching and nothing else. Whatever they are teaching these kids, its doing a disservice because kids that were highly rated and highly thought of look lost across the board. Thats not a coincidence or a player problem. Thats a coaching problem.

Same with tackling, same with penalties, same with special teams. You can point to the players all you want, but in the end the buck stops with the coaches.

You have valid points in that there are techniques that a coach can help a player with. Turning around and playing the ball is not one of them. It is instinctual. I can see video sessions after the game. Williams" Great job Artie on not looking back as the ball whizzed right by your ear. Just like I taught you." "Tracy fantastic. Look at this play right here. Their QB throws a softer higher pass than Jacory and it flutters for what seems like 10 seconds but you maintained discipline and kept your back to the ball so the wr could catch it." Even if they dont do a good job at instilling this in their CB's, as a player wouldnt u turn around. I mean a coach coaches, but you guys act like these players wouldnt know how to wipe their *** if a coach didnt show them in practice. Like any job, a person brings their own skills and then has a mentor,teacher,coach etc help build on those skills. These kids arent molded from scratch. I liken it to pocket presence for a qb. It is an innate skill. Sure you can help the QB a little, but he either has it or he doesnt.

I understand what you're saying but none of them turn to look for the ball. Again if it were one or two players I can point the finger at the player. But if the unit as a whole is not doing it then there is a fundamental flaw in what or how they are being taught or what is being asked of them.
Its **** near impossible that all of these kids that came out of high school as highly rated talents look so poor and lack what is evidently basic fundamentals. When a whole unit under performs that usually means the unit manager is not doing his job affectively. That goes for football, the corporate world, military, you name it.

 

[AntwanJ306]

I am starting to think that I would rather have a smart football player who is a step slower than these Miami-Dade athletes who don't really understand the game after playing street ball in high school. Going by the measurables is what sank Larry Coker.

 

[FullyERicht]

Bush doesn't look like the same player that we saw 2 years ago, and I'm not talking about explosion/speed. His angles and open field tackling are brutal, not a quality you want in your safeties. Burns continues to look more like a gifted athlete than a football player, I'm losing some of the excitement I had for him. I'm not sure if it's scheme or mentality or what but a lot of these guys just don't look like natural football players. Corn Elder is a guy who looks comfortable around the ball making football plays when he gets a chance, I'd like to see more of him. Some of this is undoubtedly a sign of how well players are being coached, but some of this stuff is instinctual/natural.

Bush is an NFL safety and will be all pro in the NFL. We just don't use his athletic ability. Bush is an extremely aggressive safety and very athletic. UM needs to let him play more aggressive instead of sitting back so deep.

Bush has to run over 20 yards to try and make a play on a screen pass. Bush arrives in a blur. The problem is that our scheme forces him to be at a disadvantage requiring him to cover so much ground.

You done lost your mind.

The problem with Bush is that he's an ATHLETE and not a FOOTBALL PLAYER. He's been that way since high school. The same thing with Burns. These guys barely did **** in high school. They didn't put up great numbers, they were just bigger and more athletic than everybody else.

And as far as him being too far back...

Where did Sean Taylor and Ed Reed play? How'd they get so many **** interceptions? I'll give you a hint: They weren't playing in the box.

You don't know what our scheme is or what we're doing with our Safeties. No clue.

There was a time at this school when we had coaches who took these freak athletes and molded them into football players.

The entire unit is garbage, and that's on the corches

 

[FullyERicht]

I am starting to think that I would rather have a smart football player who is a step slower than these Miami-Dade athletes who don't really understand the game after playing street ball in high school. Going by the measurables is what sank Larry Coker.

Of course you would, it might improve our US News ranking that you fap to on a daily basis.

Bama and LSU and FSU have no problem taking these "fast and dumb" kids and making them savages on the field.

Ten years of blaming the kids for all being busts. Every program wanted these kids. It isn't a coincidence that ten years in a row our elite recruits end up underwhelming.

 

[FullyERicht]

How 'bout holding the kids accountable for once?

It's one thing to say that our scheme sucks, it's another thing to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching basic fundamentals.

This is the best post in this thread. I never here guys hold the players accountable it's players habits. They can execute and look Iike all stars in practice get in the game and do the same thing. There awareness is really bad. All the top corners have something in common is instincts and ball play. They don't have either most of time. they are talented as he'll but it's not translating.I'm unsure of Paul Williams DB skills but Brandon Harris , Brandon McGee both got drafted.

pretty sure paul williams wasn't here when brandon harris was and brandon mcgee (while a great athlete) didn't have great fundamentals. don't know why so many on this board think that coaches can't help players sharpen and improve their technique. if you've played football then you know there's those coaches that go the extra mile in teaching the fundamentals and those that concentrate more on just knowing the playbook and position responsibilities. you can't argue with the on the field results. if most to all of our guys struggle to execute finding the ball in the air that is coaching or lack there of. logically speaking what are the chances that every db we recruit naturally sucks at that skill. and if that were the case than it would still be a coaching issue as they evaluate the talent.

They don't all "suck" at that skill. It's hyperbole.

Obviously I know that coaching helps sharpen technique and skill, but to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching something as simple as defending the ball while it's in the air is just plain dumb.

I doubt he's not teaching it.

But I am positive he's not teaching it effectively. For ten years we have looked like a team with practice hours restrictions.

 

[cubin10]

A. Crawford seems to have picked it up and has become possibly our best cornerback.

 

[AntwanJ306]

I am starting to think that I would rather have a smart football player who is a step slower than these Miami-Dade athletes who don't really understand the game after playing street ball in high school. Going by the measurables is what sank Larry Coker.

Of course you would, it might improve our US News ranking that you fap to on a daily basis.

Bama and LSU and FSU have no problem taking these "fast and dumb" kids and making them savages on the field.

Ten years of blaming the kids for all being busts. Every program wanted these kids. It isn't a coincidence that ten years in a row our elite recruits end up underwhelming.

Alabama has exactly four (4) kids from the entire south Florida region on their roster. Same with LSU. Four (4). FSU has about ten M-D kids. See, when you take a dumb Miami-Dade kid and surround him with 80+ kids who were taught football in high school, they tend to blend in because someone else can make up for their mental mistakes. The raw talent can do its thing. But when you put an entire unit out there that hails from Miami, you can expect to be out-coached every single time. SOMEONE on the field has to have some mental awareness of what is going on.

 

[AntwanJ306]

I doubt he's not teaching it.

But I am positive he's not teaching it effectively. For ten years we have looked like a team with practice hours restrictions.

And Williams hasn't been here for ten years. But we have put dumb M-D kids out there for ten years. Which one seems to be the common link?

 

[Ibis Wingz]

How 'bout holding the kids accountable for once?

It's one thing to say that our scheme sucks, it's another thing to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching basic fundamentals.

This is the best post in this thread. I never here guys hold the players accountable it's players habits. They can execute and look Iike all stars in practice get in the game and do the same thing. There awareness is really bad. All the top corners have something in common is instincts and ball play. They don't have either most of time. they are talented as he'll but it's not translating.I'm unsure of Paul Williams DB skills but Brandon Harris , Brandon McGee both got drafted.

pretty sure paul williams wasn't here when brandon harris was and brandon mcgee (while a great athlete) didn't have great fundamentals. don't know why so many on this board think that coaches can't help players sharpen and improve their technique. if you've played football then you know there's those coaches that go the extra mile in teaching the fundamentals and those that concentrate more on just knowing the playbook and position responsibilities. you can't argue with the on the field results. if most to all of our guys struggle to execute finding the ball in the air that is coaching or lack there of. logically speaking what are the chances that every db we recruit naturally sucks at that skill. and if that were the case than it would still be a coaching issue as they evaluate the talent.

They don't all "suck" at that skill. It's hyperbole.

Obviously I know that coaching helps sharpen technique and skill, but to imply that a college DB coach isn't teaching something as simple as defending the ball while it's in the air is just plain dumb.

The crap you read on these sites is mind numbing. Every college football coach knows football. Some are better at teaching it than others, some have better philosophies than others and some just have a better feel for the game than others, but make no mistake, these guys know football. The thought that Paul Williams or any other college level coach isn't teaching DBs to play the ball is idiocy.

 

[rok]

Remember, this is the same ******* who played Highsmith over Carter all of 2013.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

I am starting to think that I would rather have a smart football player who is a step slower than these Miami-Dade athletes who don't really understand the game after playing street ball in high school. Going by the measurables is what sank Larry Coker.

Of course you would, it might improve our US News ranking that you fap to on a daily basis.

Bama and LSU and FSU have no problem taking these "fast and dumb" kids and making them savages on the field.

Ten years of blaming the kids for all being busts. Every program wanted these kids. It isn't a coincidence that ten years in a row our elite recruits end up underwhelming.

Alabama has exactly four (4) kids from the entire south Florida region on their roster. Same with LSU. Four (4). FSU has about ten M-D kids. See, when you take a dumb Miami-Dade kid and surround him with 80+ kids who were taught football in high school, they tend to blend in because someone else can make up for their mental mistakes. The raw talent can do its thing. But when you put an entire unit out there that hails from Miami, you can expect to be out-coached every single time. SOMEONE on the field has to have some mental awareness of what is going on.

Just stop. UM's schemes are busted. The players may make some mental errors out there, but the schemes are atrocious. Our defensive philosophy is so sound that one of its originators is now a color commentator for CFB games after getting fired mid-season by Paul Johnson. Our offensive coordinator is absolutely the worst play caller alive. Patrick Nix laughs at Coley. A good coach could win big with our players. Unfortunately, we don't have a good coach.