Our Glorious Athletic Director

[dookie blaylock]

I'll take Tad Foote. Dude wasn't necessarily thrilled with athletics, but he hired a competent athletic director and more importantly left it the **** alone. That is what we need, a Pres who can make a good AD hire and then stand back.

Tad didn't stand back. He butted heads continuously with Jimmy and Sam Jankovich.

Seriously, the revisionist history that goes on on this board is funny as ****. You guys really believe that Tad Foote had anything to do with the success of UM football? ****, I doubt Tad even knew who Jankovich was before he rubber-stamped his hire; it was total luck that Sam turned out to be as good as he was.

this is the same board where dyron dye (only after speaking out against golden, of course) became some kind of football demigod whose career was ruined by golden moving him to te.

 

[Hurracanes]

That's our fearless leader showing when it comes to the stadium issue he has no desire, plan or vision to have it resolved. Unreal. Where are our priorities? We are rotting at SLS. That FAMU game was the worst attendance for FAMU I have ever seen. I'm done with this guy.

You think it is SunLife Stadium? Dude, go look at what Miami drew for home games in 1997. Paid attendance under 20K against Rutgers for homecoming. Miami is not drawing because it is not putting out a product that corresponds to South Florida. South Florida goes for front runners, period. Even in the OB the paid attendance was around 40 to 45K against pedestrian teams even when Miami was good.

I was there in 1997. In 1997, we were in our 3rd year of probation, with a horrible home schedule and watching the University of Miami football team going 5-7. No **** the stadium is going to be empty. If you can't see that less fans are attending games at SLS then you are either not attending the games or not attention to detail. The crowds are clearly smaller at SLS than at the OB. At SLS, we have yet to play a game where every seat is completely full. Oklahoma, FSU and Florida have visited SLS and not one of those games were completely full. Upper decks (especially the corners) had many empty seats. When Florida and FSU (even under Coker) visited the OB those games were full entirely.

Additionally, playing our games at SLS is hurting this program. Regardless of the product on the field, the experience is flat out boring. Fans are too far from the field and are not part of the game. Even during our bad years at the Orange Bowl, our experience at the games were night and day. I felt part of the game, like my yelling and screaming made a difference. Fans were closer to the field and closer together. So when one section is cheering "Lets go Canes" it wasn't long for the rest of the stadium to catch on. When has that ever happened at SLS? Once or twice since we have been there. You know why? Because the fans are far away from each other too. You can't hear what is being chanted in 3 sections next to you. I haven't heard a good "Lets go Canes" chant in years. At the OB, we got that every game.

I feel sorry for our players. They have zero home field advantage. They don't really feed off the crowd at SLS. It takes 70k to get that place loud and that never happens. At least at the Orange Bowl, 40k would have that place rocking. The value of attending University of Miami game is just not worth it anymore, especially with a ****** product on the field. Road games have become more enjoyable than home games.

The new renovations are not going to resolve the issues I have stated above. In fact, it is going to feel more like a Miami Dolphins stadium than ever. It's putting lipstick on a pig. The funny part is these renovations do not guarantee a Super Bowl. So yes, we are rotting at SLS. That place flat out sucks!

 

[Ispyin]

I'll take Tad Foote. Dude wasn't necessarily thrilled with athletics, but he hired a competent athletic director and more importantly left it the **** alone. That is what we need, a Pres who can make a good AD hire and then stand back.

Tad didn't stand back. He butted heads continuously with Jimmy and Sam Jankovich.

Seriously, the revisionist history that goes on on this board is funny as ****. You guys really believe that Tad Foote had anything to do with the success of UM football? ****, I doubt Tad even knew who Jankovich was before he rubber-stamped his hire; it was total luck that Sam turned out to be as good as he was.

this is the same board where dyron dye (only after speaking out against golden, of course) became some kind of football demigod whose career was ruined by golden moving him to te.

LOL at the idea that Tad Foote was better for UM athletics than any random rock. I was there, in a position to hear and see. Sam was a God, but more because he was a political genius and blocked that arrogant prick from intentionally sidetracking things.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

LOL@ Pentagoncane, coming off like your typical delusional government douchebag.



Glad our country is the hands of the likes of people like you

And you come off as a "low information voter" who puts douche bags you so detest in office.

 

[btcane]

Did something get deleted from the original post? What is the outrage about?

A lot of people on this board with nothing to do just like to complain. If Golden walked across Byscane Bay, they would complain that he couldn't swim!

 

[Pentagon Cane]

The upgrades to SunLife will make it a first rate stadium.

And by first rate, you mean boring as ****, seats miles away from the field & virtually no home field advantage.

At least it will look cool on photoshop.

The stadium is perfect for an NFL team hosting super bowls. I don't remember being an NFL team hosting super bowls.

Let me simplify this for you.....It is WHAT drove the renovation plans for SunLife Stadium. Have you even looked at the plans which are sorely needed to modernize the stadium or are you just pining for something that is not going to happen? This stadium issue have been going on for what 7 to 8 decades....LoL.

You can't simplify what you don't understand.

The main issue is that the stadium doesn't meet our needs. It is way too big and offers nothing in terms of home field advantage.

It has nothing to do with fancy scoreboards or modern feel or location. It is about having something that meets our needs.

This is why everyone gripes.

Oh baloney, the OB sat roughly the same amount. Our needs? Yes, a stadium the size of Bobby Dodd Stadium would be great. So unless you geniuses figure out how to get the Florida legislature to float a bond or the university goes on an unprecedented campaign to finance a stadium in 10 to 15 years, then the university leverages Ross's $350 million dollar investment.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

That's our fearless leader showing when it comes to the stadium issue he has no desire, plan or vision to have it resolved. Unreal. Where are our priorities? We are rotting at SLS. That FAMU game was the worst attendance for FAMU I have ever seen. I'm done with this guy.

You think it is SunLife Stadium? Dude, go look at what Miami drew for home games in 1997. Paid attendance under 20K against Rutgers for homecoming. Miami is not drawing because it is not putting out a product that corresponds to South Florida. South Florida goes for front runners, period. Even in the OB the paid attendance was around 40 to 45K against pedestrian teams even when Miami was good.

I was there in 1997. In 1997, we were in our 3rd year of probation, with a horrible home schedule and watching the University of Miami football team going 5-7. No **** the stadium is going to be empty. If you can't see that less fans are attending games at SLS then you are either not attending the games or not attention to detail. The crowds are clearly smaller at SLS than at the OB. At SLS, we have yet to play a game where every seat is completely full. Oklahoma, FSU and Florida have visited SLS and not one of those games were completely full. Upper decks (especially the corners) had many empty seats. When Florida and FSU (even under Coker) visited the OB those games were full entirely.

Additionally, playing our games at SLS is hurting this program. Regardless of the product on the field, the experience is flat out boring. Fans are too far from the field and are not part of the game. Even during our bad years at the Orange Bowl, our experience at the games were night and day. I felt part of the game, like my yelling and screaming made a difference. Fans were closer to the field and closer together. So when one section is cheering "Lets go Canes" it wasn't long for the rest of the stadium to catch on. When has that ever happened at SLS? Once or twice since we have been there. You know why? Because the fans are far away from each other too. You can't hear what is being chanted in 3 sections next to you. I haven't heard a good "Lets go Canes" chant in years. At the OB, we got that every game.

I feel sorry for our players. They have zero home field advantage. They don't really feed off the crowd at SLS. It takes 70k to get that place loud and that never happens. At least at the Orange Bowl, 40k would have that place rocking. The value of attending University of Miami game is just not worth it anymore, especially with a ****ty product on the field. Road games have become more enjoyable than home games.

The new renovations are not going to resolve the issues I have stated above. In fact, it is going to feel more like a Miami Dolphins stadium than ever. It's putting lipstick on a pig. The funny part is these renovations do not guarantee a Super Bowl. So yes, we are rotting at SLS. That place flat out sucks!

There no question that SLS sucks D8ck, and that the OB was 1000 times better for UM and a better game experience for fans. But lets not go overboard here. 97 was not that different than 98, 99, 2000, and even back to the glory days in 87, 89, 90, 91 etc.... I was there through ALL those years. UM was lucky to get 45-50K when we were ranked at the TOP, and undefeated, for teams like BYU, Colorado State, etc... 40-45K for lower tier programs like Tulsa, Miami (ohio) etc... and we didn't even sell out for games against teams like Arkansas and South Carolina when they were RANKED. 62-65K was about as good as it got for any team not named Florida State, Florida, Oklahoma, or Notre Dame.

UM NEVER packed the OB for pedestrian teams. So probation wasn't really the ball breaker for us. Even in the best of years, we didn't sell out more than once or twice AT MOST. And I sat through MANY a mid major game where if we had more than 45K it was a miracle, and we were #1, #2, #3, etc... and undefeated. The joke even back THEN was, if we even lost ONE game, attendance would drop by probably 5-10K for those run in the mill games against nobody teams.

The empty seats, front running fans, and weak local support is not a new issue, it didn't start at SLS, or in the 97 season. It's ALWAYS been a problem at UM.

 

[bomb]

LOL@ Pentagoncane, coming off like your typical delusional government douchebag.



Glad our country is the hands of the likes of people like you

Negged.

 

[Consigliere]

And by first rate, you mean boring as ****, seats miles away from the field & virtually no home field advantage.

At least it will look cool on photoshop.

The stadium is perfect for an NFL team hosting super bowls. I don't remember being an NFL team hosting super bowls.

Let me simplify this for you.....It is WHAT drove the renovation plans for SunLife Stadium. Have you even looked at the plans which are sorely needed to modernize the stadium or are you just pining for something that is not going to happen? This stadium issue have been going on for what 7 to 8 decades....LoL.

You can't simplify what you don't understand.

The main issue is that the stadium doesn't meet our needs. It is way too big and offers nothing in terms of home field advantage.

It has nothing to do with fancy scoreboards or modern feel or location. It is about having something that meets our needs.

This is why everyone gripes.

Oh baloney, the OB sat roughly the same amount. Our needs? Yes, a stadium the size of Bobby Dodd Stadium would be great. So unless you geniuses figure out how to get the Florida legislature to float a bond or the university goes on an unprecedented campaign to finance a stadium in 10 to 15 years, then the university leverages Ross's $350 million dollar investment.

We know it's always up to the alumni. We heard our retarded AD this morning. We will disagree with everything because you don't understand at all.

For chits and giggles, answer the hypothetical. Seriously, take a stab.

 

[Consigliere]

i'd love to know where you geniuses would put a stadium, even if we had the money for it. tropical park is the only place that solves the distance from campus issue along with having the infrastructure to handle stadium traffic, but you'd have to somehow pry it out of the city's hands first. and before some ****** says the land that we sold by the zoo would have worked, that land is having enough trouble getting a **** walmart put on it because of environmental reasons.

"Anything difficult is not worth doing."

- db305

"i have no intelligent answer, so i'll be a snarky **** instead."

-consigliere

i'd like to hear one reasonable/feasible solution to the problem.

My response displays the stupidity of your argument. Nobody thinks this would be easy. We expect a lot of hard work.

The zoo would have worked. Tropical park would work. It depends on the school getting serious enough to get it done and LEADING. We had a President that had enough pull and persuasion to get this done. We never tired (even when we owned the land), we never wanted it at relevant levels.

You want more land....start a feasibility study because our AD ain't doing chit.

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[Pentagon Cane]

The stadium is perfect for an NFL team hosting super bowls. I don't remember being an NFL team hosting super bowls.

Let me simplify this for you.....It is WHAT drove the renovation plans for SunLife Stadium. Have you even looked at the plans which are sorely needed to modernize the stadium or are you just pining for something that is not going to happen? This stadium issue have been going on for what 7 to 8 decades....LoL.

You can't simplify what you don't understand.

The main issue is that the stadium doesn't meet our needs. It is way too big and offers nothing in terms of home field advantage.

It has nothing to do with fancy scoreboards or modern feel or location. It is about having something that meets our needs.

This is why everyone gripes.

Oh baloney, the OB sat roughly the same amount. Our needs? Yes, a stadium the size of Bobby Dodd Stadium would be great. So unless you geniuses figure out how to get the Florida legislature to float a bond or the university goes on an unprecedented campaign to finance a stadium in 10 to 15 years, then the university leverages Ross's $350 million dollar investment.

We know it's always up to the alumni. We heard our retarded AD this morning. We will disagree with everything because you don't understand at all.

For chits and giggles, answer the hypothetical. Seriously, take a stab.

Why would I take a stab at your hypothetical? Your hypothetical is nonsense. What if the queen had balls? Then she'd be the king. Another nonsensical hypothetical. So a guy is going to make a $350 million investment and then unload it and demolish it any time soon? SLS has not really been touched since it opened in 1987 and it's a dual use facility. That's 27 years. But I'll play your game, if the stadium is going to be demolished in 25 years from now, then a new stadium will replace it. The question is whether it will be privately funded like Joe Robbie did or funded via bonds publicly.

 

[rex karz]

Below is what a REAL farking AD does: Lobby tirelessly because he has a farking clue about what is in the best interest of his premier athletic program.

They could of pumped all the hundreds of millions they've dumped into the Miami Gardens funeral parlour and renovated a classic landmark in the OB and made it a national showpiece of functional preservation.

But carpetbaggers don't give a crap about civic pride and cultural significance.

Yes, the Dolphins should of been moved back to the renovated OB and the funeral parlour leveled.

http://youtu.be/kjrCfjX-Hlw

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Below is what a REAL farking AD does: Lobby tirelessly because he has a farking clue about what is in the best interest of his premier athletic program.

They could of pumped all the hundreds of millions they've dumped into the Miami Gardens funeral parlour and renovated a classic landmark in the OB and made it a national showpiece of functional preservation.

But carpetbaggers don't give a crap about civic pride and cultural significance.

http://youtu.be/kjrCfjX-Hlw

Love Sam, but how'd it work out for him? He had enough of Foote and enough of the city pols. And he's been gone for 21 years.

I mean Jesus, Joe Robbie had to go build his own stadium because of the Dade County clown act.

 

[Rellyrell]

We need a 45-50k stadium, plain and simple. I'm hoping guys like the Dwayne Johnson or Ray Lewis who have serious pride in our program get together w/ former alum and pool their money together and get this going. Our players don't have a home field and stadium design is everything. Our games look like a high school game on TV b/c our fans are so far spread away from one another. The smoke disappears b/c the space is so open. We could still use SLS to host big the mega games, as well, where a 70k stadium would needed. However, I also think that if we continually win year in and out, a lot of our issues will be resolved. BU didn't get their own stadium until they started winning. That's usually what happens, a program wins and the $ rolls in. Right now, we haven't put that type of product on the field yet.

 

[TheCaneShow]

We need a 45-50k stadium, plain and simple. I'm hoping guys like the Dwayne Johnson or Ray Lewis who have serious pride in our program get together w/ former alum and pool their money together and get this going. Our players don't have a home field and stadium design is everything. Our games look like a high school game on TV b/c our fans are so far spread away from one another. The smoke disappears b/c the space is so open. We could still use SLS to host big the mega games, as well, where a 70k stadium would needed. However, I also think that if we continually win year in and out, a lot of our issues will be resolved. BU didn't get their own stadium until they started winning. That's usually what happens, a program wins and the $ rolls in. Right now, we haven't put that type of product on the field yet.

Former Canes reinvesting money back into the program?

 

[Rellyrell]

We need a 45-50k stadium, plain and simple. I'm hoping guys like the Dwayne Johnson or Ray Lewis who have serious pride in our program get together w/ former alum and pool their money together and get this going. Our players don't have a home field and stadium design is everything. Our games look like a high school game on TV b/c our fans are so far spread away from one another. The smoke disappears b/c the space is so open. We could still use SLS to host big the mega games, as well, where a 70k stadium would needed. However, I also think that if we continually win year in and out, a lot of our issues will be resolved. BU didn't get their own stadium until they started winning. That's usually what happens, a program wins and the $ rolls in. Right now, we haven't put that type of product on the field yet.

Former Canes reinvesting money back into the program?

Hasn't the Rock already given up a ton of $ in helping our facilities get up to par? So I don't get your GIF, my guy.

 

[TheCaneShow]

We need a 45-50k stadium, plain and simple. I'm hoping guys like the Dwayne Johnson or Ray Lewis who have serious pride in our program get together w/ former alum and pool their money together and get this going. Our players don't have a home field and stadium design is everything. Our games look like a high school game on TV b/c our fans are so far spread away from one another. The smoke disappears b/c the space is so open. We could still use SLS to host big the mega games, as well, where a 70k stadium would needed. However, I also think that if we continually win year in and out, a lot of our issues will be resolved. BU didn't get their own stadium until they started winning. That's usually what happens, a program wins and the $ rolls in. Right now, we haven't put that type of product on the field yet.

Former Canes reinvesting money back into the program?

Hasn't the Rock already given up a ton of $ in helping our facilities get up to par? So I don't get your GIF, my guy.

Add up the amount of money "ProCanes" have made in the NFL and see what we've gotten back from it.

The Rock's money came from the WWE and movies, I don't really lump him in with the rest of the multimillionaires that the program developed and haven't given a dime back yet.

Almost certain that Vilma's $450,000 donation was the largest we ever received from an NFL Cane.

 

[Rellyrell]

We need a 45-50k stadium, plain and simple. I'm hoping guys like the Dwayne Johnson or Ray Lewis who have serious pride in our program get together w/ former alum and pool their money together and get this going. Our players don't have a home field and stadium design is everything. Our games look like a high school game on TV b/c our fans are so far spread away from one another. The smoke disappears b/c the space is so open. We could still use SLS to host big the mega games, as well, where a 70k stadium would needed. However, I also think that if we continually win year in and out, a lot of our issues will be resolved. BU didn't get their own stadium until they started winning. That's usually what happens, a program wins and the $ rolls in. Right now, we haven't put that type of product on the field yet.

Former Canes reinvesting money back into the program?

Hasn't the Rock already given up a ton of $ in helping our facilities get up to par? So I don't get your GIF, my guy.

Add up the amount of money "ProCanes" have made in the NFL and see what we've gotten back from it.

The Rock's money came from the WWE and movies, I don't really lump him in with the rest of the multimillionaires that the program developed and haven't given a dime back yet.

Almost certain that Vilma's $450,000 donation was the largest we ever received from an NFL Cane.

I hear what you are saying, but that's why I said someone like the Rock or Ray Lewis to actually get w/ these guys. I think the problem is no is pushing the agenda. I mean Hightower tried to but he's not a voice like that. If we needed $200m to fund a new stadium, we definitley have an alumni base that is filled w/ mega millionaires that can contribute $500k-$1m a piece to privately fund this...but no one from our alum base is speaking up on this. ****, if i was a mega millionaire, i would do this myself, but one could wish.

 

[Uncle Neil]

We need a 45-50k stadium, plain and simple. I'm hoping guys like the Dwayne Johnson or Ray Lewis who have serious pride in our program get together w/ former alum and pool their money together and get this going. Our players don't have a home field and stadium design is everything. Our games look like a high school game on TV b/c our fans are so far spread away from one another. The smoke disappears b/c the space is so open. We could still use SLS to host big the mega games, as well, where a 70k stadium would needed. However, I also think that if we continually win year in and out, a lot of our issues will be resolved. BU didn't get their own stadium until they started winning. That's usually what happens, a program wins and the $ rolls in. Right now, we haven't put that type of product on the field yet.

Former Canes reinvesting money back into the program?

Hasn't the Rock already given up a ton of $ in helping our facilities get up to par? So I don't get your GIF, my guy.

Add up the amount of money "ProCanes" have made in the NFL and see what we've gotten back from it.

The Rock's money came from the WWE and movies, I don't really lump him in with the rest of the multimillionaires that the program developed and haven't given a dime back yet.

Almost certain that Vilma's $450,000 donation was the largest we ever received from an NFL Cane.

You may be right. Didn't Edgerrin James give a sizeable donation a few years ago and because of that, now has a meeting room named after him?

 

[HurricaneU]

People are being way too hard on Blake. A new stadium is a job for the Athletic Director.