OT: Who had the highest Vertical of all time in the NBA?

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MJ wouldn’t even make the NBA Finals at any point in time during Lebron James career.

You’re crazy AF youngin.
You’re lucky he has 3. It took him snitching on Draymond and getting him suspended. Your kang is soft and you know it.
He wouldn’t have been as good when they had real PFs and centers playing football in the paint.

Big *** was punked by the Mavs guards in a Finals too. LMAO

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Jimmy Graham did play football at Miami in the ‘09 season. He had a good game in the win vs Oklahoma, too.
Jimmy Graham already graduated from Miami after he only played basketball.. Then he made an after thought look easy as far as a career to get paid by just playing a organized team sport;

"To each his own." Jimmy Graham never made a significant impact while on Miami's basketball team, I don't think he was ever the sixth man as well. but he made the game of football look easy until he suffered a devastating lower keg injury with Seattle of the nfl.. The same league where those men not only need a level of athleticism only a few possess. But also the mental capacity to get through injuries that make every other team sport in the world look like child's play.

I would imagine Rugby is just as punishing too... Just look at Rob Gronkowski after he retired at his televised interview for cbd products; Anyone can see clear as day he was in pain but still had the joy of realizing he didn't go through another nfl season.. With the patriots when the post season ends; Surgey, rehab, back to lifting the maximum amount of weights, extreme organized contact practices during training camp & then the pre and all the way to the playoffs [Patriots aka playoffs = automatic].
 
You’re crazy AF youngin.
You’re lucky he has 3. It took him snitching on Draymond and getting him suspended. Your kang is soft and you know it.
I’m He wouldn’t have been as good when they had real PFs and centers playing football in the paint.

Big *** was punked by the Mavs guards in a Finals too. LMAO

when MJ actually went up against legitimate competition....

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when MJ actually went up against legitimate competition....

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That was when the teams were pretty much allowed to throw forearms / elbows at the opposition; Shaquille O'neal after he gained even more muscle with the Lakers used to throw elbows at whoever was defending him.. I grew up in New York and as a Knicks fan but I'm willing to bet it was routine for Shaq to implement his "Shaq-Fu" during the regular season too.. Its as simple as just using the internet to watch videos of his earlier games [Pictures too], he only started using the weight room to add muscle after the Pistons made their playoff series a contact sport.

And the NBA allowed hand checking during almost all of Jordan's playing resume. Given how the rules allowed it to be a lot more physical and he added on extra muscle weight after he averaged "37 & 35 - points per game during the 1987 & 1988 seasons." Jordan put up all those stats based off of puberty more than anything else and based on what worked for him; Having more or less a completely different body type and the rules changing like every other professional sports league.. No amount of muscle memory workouts aka practicing jump shot after jump shot would have helped; He only started putting in extra time of practicing his jump shot in after a couple years in the 1990's.
 
Based on your basic argument that pay = athleticism boxers, baseball, soccer, and golfers are the best athletes.

Golf has significantly more barrier to entry than the other sports. So that is going to hurt them because their talent pool is very small.

Soccer plays 100% are some of the best athletes in the world. baseball players don't get paid as much as the other guys because they don't get large clothing deals like basketball players.

Boxers are some of the most elite athletes.

My argument is 100% correct. Why do you think elite athletes in america trend more towards baseball, basketball and football? If badmitton was the most televised sport on US TV, rappers and celebs were constantly spotted at their events, they got paid the most, those kids got the most ***** in HS, etc. Thats where the top athletes would end up.
 
You’re crazy AF youngin.
You’re lucky he has 3. It took him snitching on Draymond and getting him suspended. Your kang is soft and you know it.
I’m He wouldn’t have been as good when they had real PFs and centers playing football in the paint.

Big *** was punked by the Mavs guards in a Finals too. LMAO
Mahorn and Lambeer would've had Lebron's Hairline around the back of his Neck...
 
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MJ played in an era where this guy was a top 5 player in the league..... that **** was soft and trash.

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I'm willing to bet that the majority of those who've seen both John Stockton and Steve Nash play that; Steve Nash and having won - two nba most valuable player awards in consecutive seasons & those Phoenix Suns teams.. And given the fact the last finals appearance was 1993 for the Suns franchise.

Most would argue that John Stockton had the better resume. No MVP awards but he had the same role more or less, but Stockton with the Utah Jazz made back to back finals appearances. But they played the Bulls in 1997 and 1998.
 
MJ played in an era where this guy was a top 5 player in the league..... that **** was soft and trash.

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John Stockton knew how to get Karl the ball. 15,806 assist. 2nd place is Jason Kidd 12k assist. Highest active player Chris Paul 9k assist.

There is nothing softer than todays basketball. Bunch of isolation ballet begging for a foul. You try to Euro step through the lane in the 90's and you'll end up in the 3rd row.
 
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John Stockton knew how to get Karl the ball. 15,806 assist. 2nd place is Jason Kidd 12k assist. Highest active player Chris Paul 9k assist.

There is nothing softer than todays basketball. Bunch of isolation ballet begging for a foul. You try to Euro step through the lane in the 90's and you'll end up in the 3rd row.
Imagine trying to do it in the 60s. The game evolves to what the league feels it needs to be to make fans happy. The game was a lot tougher in years gone by, but fans don't want tough now. They want stars to get stats so they can say they saw the best players ever.
 
There isn't another athlete in sports that's equipped like an NFL football player.

Their combination of speed, strength, size and explosiveness is unmatched by any other sport. Saying otherwise is just being a contrarian. There are no Myles Garrets or Jadaveon Clowneys in any other sport.

Basketball, golf, baseball, soccer players are more "skilled"...
But better "athletes"?
You gotta be out your fvckin mind.
 
You conveniently ignored my point about 6'4"-6'6" DE's out-jumping NBA guards who are 118lbs.

Its a moronic statement that isn't based on fact. That is why. No NFL player is close to atheltic as Lebron James or Jordan. Then again you are also the guy that thinks NFL players are tough and NFL players are good at fighting. So you clearly are incredibly biased. Next you are going to be telling us about how NFL players are so smart and are better thinkers than lawyers.

Top NBA players could be in the NFL if they dedicated themselves to it. NFL players could not be in the NBA.
 
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