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OT: Wade Phillips on Defensive Personnel

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Have any of you guys ever played in a 3-4 or 4-3 defense, even in high school? Or at least coached it. If you dont understand techniques and what type of leverage and power you get from a 4 point stance as opposed to a 2 or 3 then you'll never understand why some of us don't think the 3-4 will ever work at Miami. Name the last 3 dominant stand up olb/ de from south Florida.... I'll wait
 
Did you actually read the article? It's not the 3-4, it's the way people are utilized in the 3-4. You play to the players strength in your base defense.

4th-and-14 said:
Phillips runs a 3-4, so by the rules of this board he is a bad DC.
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Canezum5 said:
Have any of you guys ever played in a 3-4 or 4-3 defense, even in high school? Or at least coached it. If you dont understand techniques and what type of leverage and power you get from a 4 point stance as opposed to a 2 or 3 then you'll never understand why some of us don't think the 3-4 will ever work at Miami. Name the last 3 dominant stand up olb/ de from south Florida.... I'll wait
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Yes.

I still am yet to read something from you that explains why a 3-4 one gap system would not work with speed-based players. Adding a snarky attitude on top of it makes it odd.

Again, there are multiple versions of the 4-3 that implement the EXACT responsibilities of some 3-4 one gap systems. Will you at least acknowledge that?
 
Fightinibis said:
ben said:
From MMQB ... and a good commentary on the failures of the Golden era:

I think Wade Phillips spoke on Friday on what every coach on every level of sports should hear. All sports, not just football. Phillips thinks coaches should tailor what they do to the talent they have, not the other way around. “I don’t understand the people that say, ‘Hey, this is our scheme and that guy can’t play in it,’” Phillips said Friday.

“Well, to me, there’s something wrong with your scheme. You adapt the scheme to what the players can do, not what you can think of. We’ve always done it that way. We started with [Hall of Fame defensive end] Elvin Bethea. We played a lot of the same things that we play now, but he was so quick and so fast that we stunted him all the time. He was our second-leading tackler on the team as a defensive end. He was a great player, but we didn’t let him sit there all the time playing our technique that you have to play, two-gap or whatever.

"The nose guards that I’ve had—I’ve had four or five of them make the Pro Bowl. All of them are different. Ted Washington was huge. We played more in the middle with him, but he controlled the gap. Jamal Williams, he was a powerful guy, so we offset him on the nose and played the same gap, but he hard-charged. We had Greg Kragen here. He was an undersized nose guard and we stunted him to that same gap. It’s the same defense, but it’s different players. That’s what you have to do.

"We played Quentin Jammer at corner. His name was perfect because he wasn’t great playing off, but he was great at jamming a guy on the line of scrimmage. In zone, man and everything that we did, he jammed the guy on line of scrimmage and played well. That’s what you do. That’s a simple way of telling you how you play with players you have and fit your scheme to what they can do.”
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Definitely applies to Golden's stubbornness and idiocy on defense and just as much to Larry Coker with Berlin at QB.

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Great call on Coker with Berlin. If ****er would have adapted the offense around Berlin's effectiveness in shotgun we are playing for another title that year.
 
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