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OT: Rose Bowl / Sugar Bowl

Dabo gave Ohio State that extra motivation. I'm curious what Clemson's going to look like once Etienne and Lawrence bounce after this year. They'll certainly be the favorites in the ACC, but I think they take a step back from elite.
 
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pacusmc said:
Ohio state has 3 guys we wanted really bad.
Crowley, Cavazos, and Davis.
None of them have seen the filed. Some of These playoff team’s backups are better than our starters.
Most of our starters wouldn’t even be recruited by these teams.

hopefully the 20 and 21 class starts closing the gap.
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They dont play because Ohio State is busy starting 2 other florida boys we wanted in Sevyn Banks and Shaun Wade.

Clemson safeties make Bubba Bolden look like Minkah Fitzpatrick.

We knew Crowley would eat bench there when he signed. We have better rbs than him currently as well
 
Clemson D doe snot look well coached at all. OSU crushes man-to-man coverage every year against Michigan.
Venables is a very good coach, but he, like most coaches, is stuck on a scheme. Cone **** or high water
 
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FL Cane said:
Back to back blowout losses in the CFP. A ton of proven talent leaving for the draft. Say what you will, Clemson looks more vulnerable than it has in a really long time.

We’re still nowhere close to them, they’re elite and we’re a fringe Top 25 team. But they lose a lot of guys next year, and they’re not unbeatable.
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To us, they're unbeatable.

North Carolina might give them a run, though.
 
HighSeas said:
Yes. In fact, I watched their offense sputter most of the last game until Fitzpatrick came in and instantly started turning it loose with anticipation on those deep in-cuts that Tua won't throw.

You Phins fans really love your small injury prone QB who sits in the pocket taking sack after sack because he can't read the defense. Suit yourself I guess.
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Really? Because anybody who knew what they were watching could see the obvious playcalling difference between Fitz and Tua as well as how terrible Chan Gailey is. You obviously need to go watch the rest of our games because the times Gailey called a game that would be on par with how he would call a game for Fitz we beat Arizona in a shootout and almost came back against the chiefs when Chan Gailey decided to stop calling the same 6 plays over and over again. You would’ve known if you chose to watch a few YouTube clips. How about you stop crunching some numbers and go watch some tape. Maybe you’ll see a QB handicapped by his ****** OC since you like thinking your god’s gift to football.
 
I’m kinda glad they scored.It means if Day had any inkling to take his foot off the gas it’s gone now..60 or bust !!
 
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orange&green84 said:
Eh, ND beat Clemson (the first meeting) without Lawrence. Having a #1 draft pick under center tends to shift things.
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It does, but Clemson also replaced their QB with another 5 star QB so it wasn't like UGA starting a walk on.

And I'm mocking that "this team beat that team so that means they beat this other team" stupidity.
 
HighSeas said:
Yes. In fact, I watched their offense sputter most of the last game until Fitzpatrick came in and instantly started turning it loose with anticipation on those deep in-cuts that Tua won't throw.

You Phins fans really love your small injury prone QB who sits in the pocket taking sack after sack because he can't read the defense. Suit yourself I guess.
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I’m a Fins fan and I never wanted him. Not even BEFORE his hip got blown up.
 
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