OT: Mass Shooting at Douglas High School

[jhtheking]

No that is called sweeping a problem under the rug to hide the root cause rather than addressing the problem behind it.

1) How are you going to make it impossible for a HS student to obtain a gun?


Well it's been shown that other countries have violent crime issues, just not necessarily gun related so it


No, that is called sweeping a problem under the rug without actually addressing the root cause of it. It's amazing we've had guns in this country for years but this mass shooting phenomenon has only really manifested the last 20 years or so.

Lets dissect this:

In Florida you need to be 18 to buy a weapon, this kid was already 19 (generally he'd be aged out of high school). What law would you put on the books to prevent him from buying a gun? He's a legal adult, high schoolers already can't legally own guns here unless they are of age.

Lets say you ban guns in totality. How does that address why this kid wanted to do what he did? What's stopping him from sitting in the school parking lot and running down kids with his car? Or creating a bomb? Or **** poisoning the drinking water at the school or a littany of other ****ed up scenarios?

We've banned drugs and alcohol in this country, has that made it impossible to acquire them? We've banned murder, do people not do that anymore?

Nothing you've proposed has done anything to address the actual issues at hand. You just want to sit around and yell and cuss at people without applying a single shred of critical thinking to anything on here. Grow the **** up.

I'm not going to get super involved in this discussion, but you can't kill as many people running down kids with your car, and it is harder to poison drinking water and create a bomb. The only time killing people with your car is viable is when it's a super ******* packed area, and most places are better prepped for that now.

"We've banned drugs and alcohol in this country"
The reason drugs and alcohol are so pervasive is that it's fun activity you can do with your friends all the time. Not really comparable. What percent of the population lets off steam after work by going to the gun range and shooting off rounds? There aren't many social implications that come with banning guns unless you're in a gang.

 

[jhtheking]

pimp, what a great post man, others should take notice, you have never owned a gun, never even fired one, but you get it, the problem is not the guns. This kid had his mind made up and was determined, even posted a video stating he wanted to be a school shooter, FBI knew about said video, so whether he bought a gun, borrowed it or stole it does not matter. People immediatly cry gun control, NRA, Trump, republicans, blah blah, easiest thing to do. Chicago has the tightest laws in the country and people killin like crazy, like 4000 in 17, so yea it does a ton of good. If you totally stop the sales of guns tomorrow there would be plenty of guns for the next 100 years. I find its mostly people who have not been around guns their whole life like myself that just dont understand the truth about them, they dont even have a clue. I am all for stricter laws, more background, classes, etc, i welcome all that no problem but these people that believe that will stop stuff like this just are not using common sense. Whats funny is these movie stars like big fat nasty rosie odonell wants guns banned but thinks her body guards should carry, and Pelosi carries a little 25 auto in her purse, too funny

All the bolded is proof of is that a city-wide ban is too small of an area to stop people from traveling to buy it. Australia did a gun buyback and it worked. States with stricter gun laws have fewer gun deaths per capita.

"but these people that believe that will stop stuff like this just are not using common sense"
It worked in Australia..

"so whether he bought a gun, borrowed it or stole it does not matter"
How does that not matter? It's not that easy to borrow a gun or steal one. If you do, they'll be on the lookout for you.

"problem is not the guns"
Guns don't kill people. But people kill people with guns. It is much harder to kill people with a knife than a gun.

 

[MIA42178]

Look at this snowflake liberal socialist wanting big government to have cops on every corner. I bet he wants to raise to taxes to pay for the extra guards and metal detectors.

Yeah. That’s me. Snowflake liberal. Posting a libertarian comments and all. I assume you’ve been leading the fight to remove armed guards from the federal reserve bank and the capitol?

Keep up those straw man arguments and most of all. Stay triggered

 

[Gatorhater]

These school murderers all have similar profiles relative to lack of popularity and issues with getting or keeping girl friends or somehow feel abused and badly treated. Nobody who claims to want to protect our kids ever seems to think is might be a good idea to take measures using these profiles. That is for some reason off limits. Why? Maybe because it would be a racial thing since it is always some white punk?

Issue always seem to revolve around guns. Please read the second amendment and understand our right to keep and bear arms has nothing to do with protecting our homes or families nor is it so we can hunt. It is solely to protect our freedom. You have study a little to discern who the Foundling Fathers wanted us to be able to defend ourselves against but it was and is our own government. If you think guns should be restricted, you probably think the government is wonderful and your friend and protects you for all harm. If you want to keep and bear arm, there is one heck of a chance you do not trust the government much at all.

Stop using children who have been slaughtered to further the arguement either way. Fight about it on the proper ground. Do you prefer to have some chance to defend your freedom or leave it In the hands of politicians and government worker bees? Forget the political party you prefer, they look out for themselves. What to you think? Trust the government or don’t you? If your answer depends on which party holds the White House, are really need to pay more attention.

For now, we should all pray for the families of these kids and this other kids and the teachers. It is sad that people think thier politics are more important than the victims.

I'm not going to get super involved in this discussion, but you can't kill as many people running down kids with your car, and it is harder to poison drinking water and create a bomb. The only time killing people with your car is viable is when it's a super ******* packed area, and most places are better prepped for that now.

"We've banned drugs and alcohol in this country"
The reason drugs and alcohol are so pervasive is that it's fun activity you can do with your friends all the time. Not really comparable. What percent of the population lets off steam after work by going to the gun range and shooting off rounds? There aren't many social implications that come with banning guns unless you're in a gang.

The second amendment is for the protection of freedom. Freedom is a significant social implication. Do you ever notice that the people most eager to take guns from from private American citizens are the same people who never think government is to big or to powerful? Guns are not about fun. The founding fathers knew the government they founded, any government, would become a police state if allowed. Think about all the things you just can’t “say” any longer and wonder what happen to that 1st amendment. They same people who destroyed it have long been after the 2nd. It is jus a little tougher nut to crack.

 

[bbcane]

This is crazy man smh, gun violence and gun laws need to be addressed ASAP..

It has sure helped Chicago