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Randy.

And to everybody else
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That’s bull! My favorite player ever, so I’m biased. Yanks started their run the year after. And how could Marino not be on the list?

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But from that list, it’s a toss up between Ken and Randy. They both changed the face of the game they played. Good list OP.
 
I remember when the Vikings brought randy back, everyone was ecstatic here and then they cut him after a few games for criticizing Childress the coach so dumbass zigy decides to waive randy and keep chilly only to fire him a few weeks later. Dumbasses
 
Man tough list outside of Vick, who was a beast in his own right but not at the other 3’s level.

1a Moss
1b AI
2 Griffey(as great as he was, injuries held him back some)

On a side note, those were my 3 favorite athletes in each sport(except for Sean Taylor, who I loved even over Randy)
 
CFLCane said:
Vick is the odd man out by far on that list.
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Vick had a chance to impact his sport more than griff, and Moss did..AI changed NBA culture. But if we just talking where each stand as players in their sports Based on trajectory without injury or controversy derailing them I’d list them

1.) Griffey
2.)AI
3.) Vick
4.) moss

Ppl forget how good Vick was in ATL so early on. He was a absolute force and winner. He would’ve won a super bowl in ATL imo or At least gotten to one. Moss is the only one to have his name turned into a actual verb that belongs in the English dictionary but his position didn’t have as much impact as the other two. AI..how can you be American and not love dude
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
AI was the most talented he just didn't develop it like the other 3.
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If we are going off of most talented it is Ken Griffey Jr in a landslide. He is the most naturally gifted baseball player in the history of the sport. If we stick to the actual question “best CAREER without a ring” then I go Moss.
 
Mr. Dynasty1 said:
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I think Randy. With Griffey and AI close 2nd
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F*ck all y’all. Allen Iverson all day. I’m f*cked up right now but I will elaborate more tomorrow. I can’t believe all you saying Randy Moss. At least I understand the Ken Griffey Jr crowd.

On another note, the Ken Griffey Jr Nikes were one of the greatest shows ever
 
Baseball desperately needs another Griffey to get kids involved. He was my generations hero
 
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Love Vick but he shouldn't be there tbh.

Only Moss and AI went to a championship game of those pictured.

I gotta give the nod to The Answer. Dude went to war EVERY night. Most of the time by himself. Randy's a close 2nd tho.
 
Randy Moss was the most purely talented & electrifying WR in NFL history, he was better than Rice but didn't play on the teams that Rice did & unfortunately didn't get as many opportunities to play in Superbowls.

Griffey Jr was one of my favorite players growing up (actually all 4 of the guys in the op were), he's in the discussion for top 5 greatest OF's of all-time, but IMO I would actually rank Barry Bonds & Vladimir Guerrero ahead of him. Griffey made very little playoff appearances his whole career & in the playoffs his numbers were way down.

A.I was phenomenal, he carried that Sixers squad to finals by all himself, but he was mostly an overachiever in his career considering his size. He mainly maximumized his ability due to heart & determination, nobody was tougher & more culturally impactful than A.I..

I loved Vick, he was super talented & had a chance to completely change the game before he went to prison, but that season with the Eagles was the best he ever played in his career.

The best QB's to not win a ring are Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, Steve McNair & Warren Moon, all ahead of Vick imo.
 
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