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If we are going off of most talented it is Ken Griffey Jr in a landslide. He is the most naturally gifted baseball player in the history of the sport. If we stick to the actual question “best CAREER without a ring” then I go Moss.

I have to respectfully disagree. For starters NBA players are the most talented athletes on the planet and AI is arguably one of the most talented NBA players of all time. If he dedicated himself to his craft like Jordan, Lebron, and Kobe did he would easily be one of the GOATs.
 
Easy

4.Vick
3.AI
2.Griffey
1. Moss

I ask myself who was the best in their league ,and for how long ?
AI never fully apply himself every year
Griffey was great in a steroid era.,but the cheaters in MLB over shadow JR.
Vick was never the best QB in the league
Moss was best WR in league for about 4-6 span

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I didn't make the list just saw the pic and thought it would be a good debate. You could def put Marino on here. I'm sure if you think hard enough, you could find a few more as well.
 
Allen Iverson all day.... carried the worst collection of talent on his back to an NBA finals and changed the game. He would kill it in today’s NBA unlike most of these overrated NBA players in the past.

That's what I'm talking. These fools up in here picking JAGs over a mufugga who crossed up MJ.
 
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This is a Miami site and yet somehow you leave Marino off the list. When he retired he was arguably the best QB that had ever played.
 
This is a Miami site and yet somehow you leave Marino off the list. When he retired he was arguably the best QB that had ever played.

Once again, I DID NOT MAKE THE LIST. Just thought the options were interesting.
 
Yes we all agree, he would be last if you ranked them

Why not throw someone else in the list? Vick doesn't even belong in the conversation. Put Barkley, Marino, Ewing, just about anyone who didn't win one would be better.
 
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Griffey at one point was not just the best outfielder in the game, but the best player. He was the next Willie Mays before injuries killed his athletic ability.

Moss is the most gifted receiver ever in the NFL but he still takes a back seat to Jerry Rice because Rice was never a known quitter who would throw temper tantrums when things didn't go his way. Also, Rice was still an effective player even when he was old and slow, Moss fell off a cliff as soon as he was no longer the fastest player on the field. At his peak, Moss was indefensible but too much inconsistency throughout his career for me to say he's the best.

Iverson would probably kill it in today's game where you can't put your hands all over the man your guarding. Still, the thing he gets the most credit for (taking a pretty crappy Sixers team to the finals) is the same reason he put up incredible numbers. In terms of efficiency, he was terrible. He was purely a volume shooter and scored a ton of points because he took a million shots. I'm sorry but a career 42% shooter doesn't belong among the all time elites. If he had played on better teams, he might have won more but his usage would have gone way down along with his individual statistics.

Get Michael Vick's sorry *** off this list. 100% bum.
 
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