OT: LBJ

[KevinCaneFace]

Statement not fact. Facts show he lead his teams to 8 consecutive Finals and won 3. Doesn’t inhibit super stars, example: Kyrie hurt lost. Kyrie healthy they won and he hit the winning shot. Plus he is probably the best and most willing super star passer in NBA history. So again no proof he inhibits other stars.

Every all star that has teamed up with Lebron had worse numbers while they were with him. Some of that is to be expected by sharing the load but a lot of it happens because he forces them to play out of position. Guys like Bosh and Love were ridiculed the whole time they played with Lebron. Also, getting assists doesn't make you the best team player. Lebron gets assists because he runs point very often even though he's a forward. People put his assists and rebounds up against MJ but what they don't understand is MJ was a shooting guard and that's the only position he played. That's why guys like Kerr and Rodman could flourish as role players.

If Lebron played one position instead of playing all over the floor, his teammates would be able to find their role and contribute better.

 

[GirthQuake]

Statement not fact. Facts show he lead his teams to 8 consecutive Finals and won 3. Doesn’t inhibit super stars, example: Kyrie hurt lost. Kyrie healthy they won and he hit the winning shot. Plus he is probably the best and most willing super star passer in NBA history. So again no proof he inhibits other stars.

It’s not worth it you can literally even bring up stats or videos and these dudes won’t change their mind lol

 

[KrazyCane]

LeBron is the greatest basketball player all time... all he needs is teammates that can execute their roles consistently. He threatens GS with the current roster if they add Kawhi or Cousins, GS won’t be any competition.

Steph Curry and Kevin Durant arent In Lebrons league not even combined.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Me and four of my buddies are gonna grab that 8th seed in the east.

Haha. That Canes team from a few years ago that had an average age of like 23 yrs old probably would be a 7 seed.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

13 of the 16 All NBA First team selections are now in the West. The East shouldn't even be televised except for Celtics and Philly

 

[Zbrod95]

He won two of those titles because Pat Riley didn’t fire Erik spolestra after lebron quit on them during the Mavs series..**** out of here. The man couldn’t beat GS more than one because his ego didn’t allow him to keep his team together. It bothered him that people were singing Kyrie’s praises, it bothered him that people were talking about Delladova instead of him. Guy is egotistical as **** and that’s why people abandon him and want out...the only reason you didn’t see it in Miami is because D-Wade would keep his *** in check. This has become more and more apparent every year after he left Miami.

Lol at him being better than MJ. MJ’s best teams didn’t have the firepower with some of the teams Lebron has lost with and anybody saying different is a ******* fan boy...I had a dude literally arguing with me about how JR was better than Andrew Wiggins who he traded for an injury prone Kevin Love.

 

[Zbrod95]

13 of the 16 All NBA First team selections are now in the West. The East shouldn't even be televised except for Celtics and Philly

I’m happy though lol. Heat are guaranteed playoff contenders now lol !

@plantcity3 (aka the world’s only magic fan) is probably somewhere cheering his *** off too lol !

 

[Zbrod95]

LeBron is the greatest basketball all time... all he needs is teammates that can execute their roles consistently. He threatens GS with the current roster if they add Kawhi or Cousins, GS won’t be any competition.

Steph Curry and Kevin Durant arent In Lebrons league not even combined.

Lol “KD ain’t in Lebron’s league” you’re right, KD’s game just takes on an entire different level against him and Lebron can barely shoot over 50%...but whatever you say.

 

[KrazyCane]

Lol “KD ain’t in Lebron’s league” you’re right, KD’s game just takes on an entire different level against him and Lebron can barely shoot over 50%...but whatever you say.

CAVs wouldnt even make the playoffs if KD and Lebron swapped places. Two different leagues... Lebron than everybody else. Kawhi is better than KD he shuts him down every time.

It's easy to look like a legit HOFer when you can take off half the game bc somebody else is shooting and moving the ball around for the offense and when you dont have to play defense... Curry and KD just switch off and let Klay, Iguodala, and Draymond defend for them. They have it easy at GS, and if Chris Paul didnt get hurt they still wouldnt have made it to the Finals.

 

[GirthQuake]

He won two of those titles because Pat Riley didn’t fire Erik spolestra after lebron quit on them during the Mavs series..**** out of here. The man couldn’t beat GS more than one because his ego didn’t allow him to keep his team together. It bothered him that people were singing Kyrie’s praises, it bothered him that people were talking about Delladova instead of him. Guy is egotistical as **** and that’s why people abandon him and want out...the only reason you didn’t see it in Miami is because D-Wade would keep his *** in check. This has become more and more apparent every year after he left Miami.

Lol at him being better than MJ. MJ’s best teams didn’t have the firepower with some of the teams Lebron has lost with and anybody saying different is a ******* fan boy...I had a dude literally arguing with me about how JR was better than Andrew Wiggins who he traded for an injury prone Kevin Love.

Lol you’re off your rocker tell me with a straight face what lebron had this past year was better than Jordan’s teams

You didn’t even rebuttal any stats I put up ... bro I was trying to compare k love to Wiggins who were the actual pieces traded gtfo

Then you tried comparing jr to Wiggins which is stupid might as well compare dion waiters to jr smith lol

Then I told you they’re the same defender and you bugged out and I showed you the stats and you said absolutely nothing of substance against it

If you want me to go to level and dumb it down k love can put his stats up without the ball in his hand
Wiggins needs the rock to put up empty stats

 

[GirthQuake]

I will bump the arguments too lol ... and yes it was the right move for lebron in. Win mode to trade for a proven Kevin love instead an unproven Wiggins and who has been unimpressive

 

[KevinCaneFace]

CAVs wouldnt even make the playoffs if KD and Lebron swapped places. Two different leagues... Lebron than everybody else. Kawhi is better than KD he shuts him down every time.

It's easy to look like a legit HOFer when you can take off half the game bc somebody else is shooting and moving the ball around for the offense and when you dont have to play defense... Curry and KD just switch off and let Klay, Iguodala, and Draymond defend for them. They have it easy at GS, and if Chris Paul didnt get hurt they still wouldnt have made it to the Finals.

Cavs wouldn’t make the playoffs with KD? Lol have you even looked at the East? Besides with KD, they may still have everybody that lebron got traded away.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Lol you’re off your rocker tell me with a straight face what lebron had this past year was better than Jordan’s teams

You didn’t even rebuttal any stats I put up ... bro I was trying to compare k love to Wiggins who were the actual pieces traded gtfo

Then you tried comparing jr to Wiggins which is stupid might as well compare dion waiters to jr smith lol

Then I told you they’re the same defender and you bugged out and I showed you the stats and you said absolutely nothing of substance against it

If you want me to go to level and dumb it down k love can put his stats up without the ball in his hand
Wiggins needs the rock to put up empty stats

I won’t say better but not as far off as you think.

 

[HarrietTubmanCane]

LOL.

"Limits the superstars"?...is that another way of saying He didn't trust that bull$h!t the Cavs put around em' last year?

This response shows your lack of understanding of the game of basketball. You took his comment at face value and sensationalized it about superstars when in all actuality he is correct. Lebron does stagnate his teammates and stops the ball 75% of time for no plausible reason. This is the reason Kyrie left. As a Cleveland’s I’ve watched every game he has played for 11 seasons of his career and most of the ones while he was with the Heat. While GREAT and brilliantly intelligent, Lebron demands a certain playing style that exclusively revolves around him being the sole distributor. Even you notice, the Cavs run thru the East Conference despite this playing style and almost lost to the Celtics until Tyrone Lue begged Lebron to allow George Hill to actual play his position of point guard. When he did the Cavs’ offense opened up and they won the series after struggling mightily. Basketball isn’t trading Yu-Gi-Oh cards and Dragonball Z duels, despite what ESPN will sensationalize. It’s not entirely about who has who so they gonna win. Golden State has the best playing style, their players have fully committed to it, so they’ve gotten better due to it and now they win.

Kobe explained this perfectly in this video:


this sums it all up. With all the fire power and corner 3 point shooters waiting for Lebron’s passes, we still needed a buzzer beater 3 pointer by Kyrie to beat the Warriors without Kevin Durant. When Lebron is on your team, it’s not entirely about firepower, it’s more about whether he’ll submit to a democratic style of play.

 

[CANEZZ4LIFE]

People in this thread arguing about the warriors being up 3-1 and adding KD lmfaoo. They have the best front office in basketball and it’s not even close. They drafted 3 all stars and signed probably the best bench players in basketball in 2013 and 14 (Iguodala & Livingston) while also continually getting guys that can play team ball as rotational guys. They had enough cap and wanted to add another piece to really shut sh*t down. Hate it all you want but it’s not like these other teams throwing all they money out in one summer tryna build “superteams”. They were built from the ground up and you gotta respect it. This coming from someone who’s not even a warriors fan...

 

[GOCANES05]

How long before $500,000,000.00 is reached on a player, and hear them say they play for free cause they love the game so much.

Thank heaven for college sports, maybe with so much bag going this to could change or is changing.

GOCANES

 

[GirthQuake]

People in this thread arguing about the warriors being up 3-1 and adding KD lmfaoo. They have the best front office in basketball and it’s not even close. They drafted 3 all stars and signed probably the best bench players in basketball in 2013 and 14 (Iguodala & Livingston) while also continually getting guys that can play team ball as rotational guys. They had enough cap and wanted to add another piece to really shut sh*t down. Hate it all you want but it’s not like these other teams throwing all they money out in one summer tryna build “superteams”. They were built from the ground up and you gotta respect it. This coming from someone who’s not even a warriors fan...

Ok whatever gets you to sleep at night with your steph curry waifu pillow

 

[Zbrod95]

Lol you’re off your rocker tell me with a straight face what lebron had this past year was better than Jordan’s teams

You didn’t even rebuttal any stats I put up ... bro I was trying to compare k love to Wiggins who were the actual pieces traded gtfo

Then you tried comparing jr to Wiggins which is stupid might as well compare dion waiters to jr smith lol

Then I told you they’re the same defender and you bugged out and I showed you the stats and you said absolutely nothing of substance against it

If you want me to go to level and dumb it down k love can put his stats up without the ball in his hand
Wiggins needs the rock to put up empty stats

You don’t have stats! The **** you talking about fanboy? All you brought up was how JR was somehow a better defender in the playoffs(which is bull in its own) and the **** you talking about JR being better than Dion? JR CAN’T EVEN SCORE TEN POINTS A GAME! And you’re trying to tell him he’s better than 2 guys averaging 16 points a game and one of them does it as a third wheel ! Nothing of substance? Put on Andrew’s tape on D and compare to JR’s...JR actually grades as one of the worst defenders in the league..literally and he’s supposed to guard Klay Thompson because he’s lebron’s buddy? 2011 heat talent wise are better than the ‘93 bulls and he lost, the 2015 Cavs talent wise we’re better than the ‘93 bulls and they lost. What were missing off those years compared to the others? Oh that’s right, he quit mid series against the Mavs and he was too busy trying to get David Blatt fired in ‘15....because that’s what the “greatest player in history” does right? They quit and run off coaches/players they don’t like just like MJ did...oh wait MJ didn’t do that.

 

[GirthQuake]

You don’t have stats! The **** you talking about fanboy? All you brought up was how JR was somehow a better defender in the playoffs(which is bull in its own) and the **** you talking about JR being better than Dion? JR CAN’T EVEN SCORE TEN POINTS A GAME! And you’re trying to tell him he’s better than 2 guys averaging 16 points a game and one of them does it as a third wheel ! Nothing of substance? Put on Andrew’s tape on D and compare to JR’s...JR actually grades as one of the worst defenders in the league..literally and he’s supposed to guard Klay Thompson because he’s lebron’s buddy? 2011 heat talent wise are better than the ‘93 bulls and he lost, the 2015 Cavs talent wise we’re better than the ‘93 bulls and they lost. What were missing off those years compared to the others? Oh that’s right, he quit mid series against the Mavs and he was too busy trying to get David Blatt fired in ‘15....because that’s what the “greatest player in history” does right? They quit and run off coaches/players they don’t like just like MJ did...oh wait MJ didn’t do that.

Still have no idea why you’re comparing Wiggins and jr Smith lol may as well compare Jamal Crawford and Zach Lavine

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

This response shows your lack of understanding of the game of basketball. You took his comment at face value and sensationalized it about superstars when in all actuality he is correct. Lebron does stagnate his teammates and stops the ball 75% of time for no plausible reason. This is the reason Kyrie left. As a Cleveland’s I’ve watched every game he has played for 11 seasons of his career and most of the ones while he was with the Heat. While GREAT and brilliantly intelligent, Lebron demands a certain playing style that exclusively revolves around him being the sole distributor. Even you notice, the Cavs run thru the East Conference despite this playing style and almost lost to the Celtics until Tyrone Lue begged Lebron to allow George Hill to actual play his position of point guard. When he did the Cavs’ offense opened up and they won the series after struggling mightily. Basketball isn’t trading Yu-Gi-Oh cards and Dragonball Z duels, despite what ESPN will sensationalize. It’s not entirely about who has who so they gonna win. Golden State has the best playing style, their players have fully committed to it, so they’ve gotten better due to it and now they win.

Kobe explained this perfectly in this video:


this sums it all up. With all the fire power and corner 3 point shooters waiting for Lebron’s passes, we still needed a buzzer beater 3 pointer by Kyrie to beat the Warriors without Kevin Durant. When Lebron is on your team, it’s not entirely about firepower, it’s more about whether he’ll submit to a democratic style of play.

It's a 1 on 1 game, everything else is smoke & mirrors...LOL, Houston **** near beat GSW playing "Iso Ball".

If the NBA wants to promote more passing, get rid of the illegal defense bull$h!t.