Thats 3 teams ago, he was fantastic with Washington last year which earned him a 10 million a year deal in the offseason and he’s been great this year. Flowers always been a guard and not a tackle and that transition has really helped himGlad to see him turn around career, but folks are being kind about his performance in New York. He was an unmitigated disaster.
New York is a tough place to play LT as a rookie. Look at Andrew Thomas.
Flowers was the youngest player in the league, hated the media and was out of position. Bad mix. He’s 26 now making $10 million a year in Miami and moving people as a guard. It’s a great fit.
You want mauling guards with Tua because he needs to step up in the pocket as a shorter guy. Brees was at his best with Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks. Flowers fits that mold.
Thomas has been a disaster this yearFlowers was pretty good in Jacksonville after bouncing over from the Giants and then was pretty good with the Football Team and now pretty good with the Dolphins.
FWIW - Andrew Thomas is playing much better as a rookie than Ereck Flowers. Flowers was a penalty machine with NYG. Thomas, only one penalty so far. Similar number of sacks allowed.
According to PFF, Thomas this year and Flowers this year are not far off in terms of grade.
I've watched 0 NYG games...but PFF says he's been 61.7 grade (which is like...average) with 1 penalty and 5 sacks allowed.Thomas has been a disaster this year
Sorry, but describing him as a disaster is a reach. Thomas struggled early, but has been better of late. He was behind because there was no off-season program. Then, he was supposed to get feet wet playing RT only to have veteran LT Nate Solder opt out. So he was thrown in to LT with minimal preparation & onto a weak OL.Thomas has been a disaster this year
Was just reading article about the Phins Oline, and its impressive how well he is playing. He really didn't look too good for the NYG, but great to see him getting his groove with his hometown team. SIAP
He also had a 69.7 in year 2I've watched 0 NYG games...but PFF says he's been 61.7 grade (which is like...average) with 1 penalty and 5 sacks allowed.
I'd wager "disaster" is probably hyperbole.
I was looking at a few articles earlier this week, some say he's been getting better, some point to the way the Giants are using OL (rotating a ton of players), and one of his OL Coaches say he's fvcked with his technique.
Sounds like a rookie season with no off-season, idk.
FWIW - Ereck Flowers was a 54.9 rated rookie with the Giants.