OT: Corruption in NCAA BBAll

[Cribby]

This sucks. We're so low on the totem pole of cheating in all sports. If the FBI really wants to clean this up go after Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UL and in football go after bama, LSU, Penn St, Ole Miss, Ohio St.

all those schools have turned paying for players into an art.

Why would dUKe, UK, and UNC have to pay players? As I keep saying, you need to be suspicious if a top basketball recruit does not choose one of those schools. What is the school he chooses doing "Paying" him to get him away from those schools?

They get all the recruits because they have the biggest amount of money being thrown around , just like Bama in football.

 

[Tony Perps]

This sucks. We're so low on the totem pole of cheating in all sports. If the FBI really wants to clean this up go after Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UL and in football go after bama, LSU, Penn St, Ole Miss, Ohio St.

all those schools have turned paying for players into an art.

Why would dUKe, UK, and UNC have to pay players? As I keep saying, you need to be suspicious if a top basketball recruit does not choose one of those schools. What is the school he chooses doing "Paying" him to get him away from those schools?

Because other schools are paying them, dumb ***. If a top recruit can get paid $100-200k go to go X school, and thinks he's going to be a one and done anyway, why does he care about going to UK or Duke?

 

[88]

College Basketball is damaged goods. Just pack it up

 

[caneworld]

This sucks. We're so low on the totem pole of cheating in all sports. If the FBI really wants to clean this up go after Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UL and in football go after bama, LSU, Penn St, Ole Miss, Ohio St.

all those schools have turned paying for players into an art.

Why would dUKe, UK, and UNC have to pay players? As I keep saying, you need to be suspicious if a top basketball recruit does not choose one of those schools. What is the school he chooses doing "Paying" him to get him away from those schools?

They get all the recruits because they have the biggest amount of money being thrown around , just like Bama in football.

Don't be fooled with the current released names of schools involved.... FBI is just starting to shake the tree ... the juicier ones are yet to come... as more get forced into plea deals ....

 

[CaneFan79]

What is truly scary about these charges is that they go after the NCAA Leadership's bread and butter; Marky Mary and his NCAA Funky Bunch make THEIR money with the basketball tournament, they outsource the CFB postseason. TV Ratings for March Madness are fueled by office pools that suck in even the non-fan who tries to handicap the games. Now you throw in an element that scares (read: sneaker company fixed) boyj serious and casual bettors(read plunging ratings) and you have the NCAA enraged. In order to save UNC and Duke, ACC Comish Swofford will gladly throw Miami and Loserville to the NCAA wolves with nary a thought.

 

[FMCANE]

This sucks. We're so low on the totem pole of cheating in all sports. If the FBI really wants to clean this up go after Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UL and in football go after bama, LSU, Penn St, Ole Miss, Ohio St.

all those schools have turned paying for players into an art.

Why would dUKe, UK, and UNC have to pay players? As I keep saying, you need to be suspicious if a top basketball recruit does not choose one of those schools. What is the school he chooses doing "Paying" him to get him away from those schools?

Because other schools are paying them, dumb ***. If a top recruit can get paid $100-200k go to go X school, and thinks he's going to be a one and done anyway, why does he care about going to UK or Duke?

Name calling is sooo mature. Would you rather go to a school has best coaching, best facilities, best fans, etc. or a school that does not? A school that does not would be the choice if one was getting paid. Why don't you give Coach K, Coach Cal, and Ole Roy some credit. They are really good coaches. Glad I have thick skin to be a female (or male for that matter) on this board. Yes, I was born and raised in KY. Moved to FL 1989, love Canes and love Cats, been on this board since 2011. Trying to implicate Coach Cal to make yourself feel better? UK, dUKe, Kansas, UNC, don't need to pay players to attend. Players attend these schools because of great coaching, support, and preparation to NBA. And as Coach Richt and Miami, any player that plays at UK has a lifetime to complete his college degree, tuition free. Many have completed while playing in NBA, many have returned after playing in NBA. Go watch John Wall's video of him being inducted into Kentucky hall of fame, which took place last Friday night. He loves UK. It may turn out that KY is involved in a nike scandal, but I highly doubt it.

 

[jhtheking]

It's also worth noting that the coaches who were charged were charged because they accepted bribes personally, not for facilitating bribes to players.

Does this mean Brian Bowen and Nassir Little could be charged?

 

[Cajuncane]

I know one thing from reading this thread...hospitals all around the country have the ER's fool of CIS posters who gave broken or severely injured their ankles and/or legs jumping to some serious conclusions in here.

I know of just 3 lawyers in here( may be a couple more im not aware of) but there's at least a dozen/dozen and a half of them that have already convicted Miami and a coach before either of them has been named or arrested in this case.Telling us " from what they're hearing"this or that is about to happen.Id like to know who their sources inside the FBI are and if they can ask that source how deep Miami is actually in the **** with this because the only place " they could be hearing anything"is from the FBI.

Someone about 5-6 pages back made a bold statement that we ought to wait until more info is released before damning Miami and having the BB program shut down.

I'd make that same suggestion cause anything anyone says they know other than what's in that case file is pure bull sHT.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I find it weird that I can't find a single photo anywhere of the scumbag financial advisor in Pittsburgh (Louis Martin "Marty" Blazer III) that started this entire deal rolling with the FBI. I wonder if he's in some sort of protective custody now? He apparently defrauded a bunch of Pitt athletes in the past too (Dejuan Blair, Kevan Barlow, etc). This was the photo of the #2 guy at his firm. I **** you not. Maybe some red flags should go off if you're investing money at a place where the official photo of the VP is in the personal finance section.......of a Borders bookstore.

 

[kryptonite]

I know one thing from reading this thread...hospitals all around the country have the ER's fool of CIS posters who gave broken or severely injured their ankles and/or legs jumping to some serious conclusions in here.

I know of just 3 lawyers in here( may be a couple more im not aware of) but there's at least a dozen/dozen and a half of them that have already convicted Miami and a coach before either of them has been named or arrested in this case.Telling us " from what they're hearing"this or that is about to happen.Id like to know who their sources inside the FBI are and if they can ask that source how deep Miami is actually in the **** with this because the only place " they could be hearing anything"is from the FBI.

Someone about 5-6 pages back made a bold statement that we ought to wait until more info is released before damning Miami and having the BB program shut down.

I'd make that same suggestion cause anything anyone says they know other than what's in that case file is pure bull sHT.

You know how this goes. Only think CIS prosters like more than burning down UM athletics is being the one to toss the first torch.

 

[cooks002]

Next stop: Negative recruiting

 

[Tad Footeball]

Next stop: Negative recruiting

I was thinking it would be The Feast and Billy Cohen jumping in on the inevitable anti-UM pile-on.

 

[cooks002]

Next stop: Negative recruiting

I was thinking it would be The Feast and Billy Cohen jumping in on the inevitable anti-UM pile-on.

Add in Porter and Reynolds

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I know one thing from reading this thread...hospitals all around the country have the ER's fool of CIS posters who gave broken or severely injured their ankles and/or legs jumping to some serious conclusions in here.

I know of just 3 lawyers in here( may be a couple more im not aware of) but there's at least a dozen/dozen and a half of them that have already convicted Miami and a coach before either of them has been named or arrested in this case.Telling us " from what they're hearing"this or that is about to happen.Id like to know who their sources inside the FBI are and if they can ask that source how deep Miami is actually in the **** with this because the only place " they could be hearing anything"is from the FBI.

Someone about 5-6 pages back made a bold statement that we ought to wait until more info is released before damning Miami and having the BB program shut down.

I'd make that same suggestion cause anything anyone says they know other than what's in that case file is pure bull sHT.

You know how this goes. Only think CIS prosters like more than burning down UM athletics is being the one to toss the first torch.

Exactly.

You find out who the real cūnts at CIS are when something like this happens.

We even have some posters here pimping other schools saying they would never cheat, yet we still have very few facts regarding what actually transpired. Several of our eager beavers are ready to throw the program under without even knowing what's going on.

I have a theory that a large percentage of posters that post on message boards are half-*** casual fans that don't go to games or even really care that much about the school, they just like a forum to blow hard.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I know one thing from reading this thread...hospitals all around the country have the ER's fool of CIS posters who gave broken or severely injured their ankles and/or legs jumping to some serious conclusions in here.

I know of just 3 lawyers in here( may be a couple more im not aware of) but there's at least a dozen/dozen and a half of them that have already convicted Miami and a coach before either of them has been named or arrested in this case.Telling us " from what they're hearing"this or that is about to happen.Id like to know who their sources inside the FBI are and if they can ask that source how deep Miami is actually in the **** with this because the only place " they could be hearing anything"is from the FBI.

Someone about 5-6 pages back made a bold statement that we ought to wait until more info is released before damning Miami and having the BB program shut down.

I'd make that same suggestion cause anything anyone says they know other than what's in that case file is pure bull sHT.

You know how this goes. Only think CIS prosters like more than burning down UM athletics is being the one to toss the first torch.

Exactly.

You find out who the real cūnts at CIS are when something like this happens.

We even have some posters here pimping other schools saying they would never cheat, yet we still have very few facts regarding what actually transpired. Several of our eager beavers are ready to throw the program under without even knowing what's going on.

I have a theory that a large percentage of posters that post on message boards are half-*** casual fans that don't go to games or even really care that much about the school, they just like a forum to blow hard.

We have a large swath of neurotics around here too. Some are already having sleepless nights over the very dangerous 2019 football matchup against the Central Michigan Chippewas.

 

[kwsprouse]

This sucks. We're so low on the totem pole of cheating in all sports. If the FBI really wants to clean this up go after Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UL and in football go after bama, LSU, Penn St, Ole Miss, Ohio St.

all those schools have turned paying for players into an art.

Why would dUKe, UK, and UNC have to pay players? As I keep saying, you need to be suspicious if a top basketball recruit does not choose one of those schools. What is the school he chooses doing "Paying" him to get him away from those schools?

Because other schools are paying them, dumb ***. If a top recruit can get paid $100-200k go to go X school, and thinks he's going to be a one and done anyway, why does he care about going to UK or Duke?

Name calling is sooo mature. Would you rather go to a school has best coaching, best facilities, best fans, etc. or a school that does not? A school that does not would be the choice if one was getting paid. Why don't you give Coach K, Coach Cal, and Ole Roy some credit. They are really good coaches. Glad I have thick skin to be a female (or male for that matter) on this board. Yes, I was born and raised in KY. Moved to FL 1989, love Canes and love Cats, been on this board since 2011. Trying to implicate Coach Cal to make yourself feel better? UK, dUKe, Kansas, UNC, don't need to pay players to attend. Players attend these schools because of great coaching, support, and preparation to NBA. And as Coach Richt and Miami, any player that plays at UK has a lifetime to complete his college degree, tuition free. Many have completed while playing in NBA, many have returned after playing in NBA. Go watch John Wall's video of him being inducted into Kentucky hall of fame, which took place last Friday night. He loves UK. It may turn out that KY is involved in a nike scandal, but I highly doubt it.

I agree with this. I am also a UK bball fan, we would LOVE to see Duke of all schools go down for paying players. Same goes for Carolina and Kansas..but I honestly don't think they are involved in this. Their recruiting classes are only 4-5 players deep each year. Why pay for 1 guy when you can just go get another. Duke and Kentucky literally hand pick who they want. Look at Louis King who just committed to OR...top 20 kid who begged Cal for an offer at UK, but Cal didn't need him. He is one of OR highest recruits in a long long time and Cal had the luxury to turn him down. I guess it just doesn't make sense once you get to the top to risk it all on a kid, when you can just go get another one almost if not just as good. I think Cal obviously did some shady stuff at Umass and Memphis, but when he got to UK there was almost no reason to cheat. You have everything you need. unfortunately same with coach k and bill self. Bill Self, Coach K and Cal recruit against each other only, no one else is taking their kids away....and like that poster said...the few times those 3 "miss" on a kid...you have to ask yourself why. Brian Bowen was the 13th ranked player in the country......go look at his offers...you'll notice for some odd reason 2 schools never offered him. UK and Duke. How many times do you think neither of those schools offered a top 13 player. Mitchell Robinson the shady kid who committed to Western Kentucky who was team Adidas and walked out on the school when they signed Nike, he was the 9th ranked player in the country, check out his offers......you could tell right away something was up with that kid. IMO UK and Duke stay away when they know a bidding war is going on, its not worth it when you can just pick the next best guy.

 

[kwsprouse]

This sucks. We're so low on the totem pole of cheating in all sports. If the FBI really wants to clean this up go after Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UL and in football go after bama, LSU, Penn St, Ole Miss, Ohio St.

all those schools have turned paying for players into an art.

Why would dUKe, UK, and UNC have to pay players? As I keep saying, you need to be suspicious if a top basketball recruit does not choose one of those schools. What is the school he chooses doing "Paying" him to get him away from those schools?

Because other schools are paying them, dumb ***. If a top recruit can get paid $100-200k go to go X school, and thinks he's going to be a one and done anyway, why does he care about going to UK or Duke?

Name calling is sooo mature. Would you rather go to a school has best coaching, best facilities, best fans, etc. or a school that does not? A school that does not would be the choice if one was getting paid. Why don't you give Coach K, Coach Cal, and Ole Roy some credit. They are really good coaches. Glad I have thick skin to be a female (or male for that matter) on this board. Yes, I was born and raised in KY. Moved to FL 1989, love Canes and love Cats, been on this board since 2011. Trying to implicate Coach Cal to make yourself feel better? UK, dUKe, Kansas, UNC, don't need to pay players to attend. Players attend these schools because of great coaching, support, and preparation to NBA. And as Coach Richt and Miami, any player that plays at UK has a lifetime to complete his college degree, tuition free. Many have completed while playing in NBA, many have returned after playing in NBA. Go watch John Wall's video of him being inducted into Kentucky hall of fame, which took place last Friday night. He loves UK. It may turn out that KY is involved in a nike scandal, but I highly doubt it.

I agree with this. I am also a UK bball fan, we would LOVE to see Duke of all schools go down for paying players. Same goes for Carolina and Kansas..but I honestly don't think they are involved in this. Their recruiting classes are only 4-5 players deep each year. Why pay for 1 guy when you can just go get another. Duke and Kentucky literally hand pick who they want. Look at Louis King who just committed to OR...top 20 kid who begged Cal for an offer at UK, but Cal didn't need him. He is one of OR highest recruits in a long long time and Cal had the luxury to turn him down. I guess it just doesn't make sense once you get to the top to risk it all on a kid, when you can just go get another one almost if not just as good. I think Cal obviously did some shady stuff at Umass and Memphis, but when he got to UK there was almost no reason to cheat. You have everything you need. unfortunately same with coach k and bill self. Bill Self, Coach K and Cal recruit against each other only, no one else is taking their kids away....and like that poster said...the few times those 3 "miss" on a kid...you have to ask yourself why. Brian Bowen was the 13th ranked player in the country......go look at his offers...you'll notice for some odd reason 2 schools never offered him. UK and Duke. How many times do you think neither of those schools offered a top 13 player. Mitchell Robinson the shady kid who committed to Western Kentucky who was team Adidas and walked out on the school when they signed Nike, he was the 9th ranked player in the country, check out his offers......you could tell right away something was up with that kid. IMO UK and Duke stay away when they know a bidding war is going on, its not worth it when you can just pick the next best guy.

I could be dead wrong and Cal could be paying everyone like ppl think..Just doesn't seem necessary at that level.

 

[LoungeLord]

I know one thing from reading this thread...hospitals all around the country have the ER's fool of CIS posters who gave broken or severely injured their ankles and/or legs jumping to some serious conclusions in here.

I know of just 3 lawyers in here( may be a couple more im not aware of) but there's at least a dozen/dozen and a half of them that have already convicted Miami and a coach before either of them has been named or arrested in this case.Telling us " from what they're hearing"this or that is about to happen.Id like to know who their sources inside the FBI are and if they can ask that source how deep Miami is actually in the **** with this because the only place " they could be hearing anything"is from the FBI.

Someone about 5-6 pages back made a bold statement that we ought to wait until more info is released before damning Miami and having the BB program shut down.

I'd make that same suggestion cause anything anyone says they know other than what's in that case file is pure bull sHT.

You know how this goes. Only think CIS prosters like more than burning down UM athletics is being the one to toss the first torch.

Exactly.

You find out who the real cūnts at CIS are when something like this happens.

We even have some posters here pimping other schools saying they would never cheat, yet we still have very few facts regarding what actually transpired. Several of our eager beavers are ready to throw the program under without even knowing what's going on.

I have a theory that a large percentage of posters that post on message boards are half-*** casual fans that don't go to games or even really care that much about the school, they just like a forum to blow hard.

I think about 98% of your posts are about other posters opinions that don't mirror yours. Focus on the teams, not the fans.

 

[kryptonite]

Why would dUKe, UK, and UNC have to pay players? As I keep saying, you need to be suspicious if a top basketball recruit does not choose one of those schools. What is the school he chooses doing "Paying" him to get him away from those schools?

Because other schools are paying them, dumb ***. If a top recruit can get paid $100-200k go to go X school, and thinks he's going to be a one and done anyway, why does he care about going to UK or Duke?

Name calling is sooo mature. Would you rather go to a school has best coaching, best facilities, best fans, etc. or a school that does not? A school that does not would be the choice if one was getting paid. Why don't you give Coach K, Coach Cal, and Ole Roy some credit. They are really good coaches. Glad I have thick skin to be a female (or male for that matter) on this board. Yes, I was born and raised in KY. Moved to FL 1989, love Canes and love Cats, been on this board since 2011. Trying to implicate Coach Cal to make yourself feel better? UK, dUKe, Kansas, UNC, don't need to pay players to attend. Players attend these schools because of great coaching, support, and preparation to NBA. And as Coach Richt and Miami, any player that plays at UK has a lifetime to complete his college degree, tuition free. Many have completed while playing in NBA, many have returned after playing in NBA. Go watch John Wall's video of him being inducted into Kentucky hall of fame, which took place last Friday night. He loves UK. It may turn out that KY is involved in a nike scandal, but I highly doubt it.

I agree with this. I am also a UK bball fan, we would LOVE to see Duke of all schools go down for paying players. Same goes for Carolina and Kansas..but I honestly don't think they are involved in this. Their recruiting classes are only 4-5 players deep each year. Why pay for 1 guy when you can just go get another. Duke and Kentucky literally hand pick who they want. Look at Louis King who just committed to OR...top 20 kid who begged Cal for an offer at UK, but Cal didn't need him. He is one of OR highest recruits in a long long time and Cal had the luxury to turn him down. I guess it just doesn't make sense once you get to the top to risk it all on a kid, when you can just go get another one almost if not just as good. I think Cal obviously did some shady stuff at Umass and Memphis, but when he got to UK there was almost no reason to cheat. You have everything you need. unfortunately same with coach k and bill self. Bill Self, Coach K and Cal recruit against each other only, no one else is taking their kids away....and like that poster said...the few times those 3 "miss" on a kid...you have to ask yourself why. Brian Bowen was the 13th ranked player in the country......go look at his offers...you'll notice for some odd reason 2 schools never offered him. UK and Duke. How many times do you think neither of those schools offered a top 13 player. Mitchell Robinson the shady kid who committed to Western Kentucky who was team Adidas and walked out on the school when they signed Nike, he was the 9th ranked player in the country, check out his offers......you could tell right away something was up with that kid. IMO UK and Duke stay away when they know a bidding war is going on, its not worth it when you can just pick the next best guy.

I could be dead wrong and Cal could be paying everyone like ppl think..Just doesn't seem necessary at that level.

There isn't anybody in any sport anywhere who's happy staying "at that level". You think Tom Brady ever once thought to himself, "meh...that's good enough"?

 

[forty six & 2]

Next stop: Negative recruiting

Butch Jones calls it, "fake news."