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One thing I’m hearing about Carson Beck from the Hecht…

JayCane20 said:
I don’t know from a medical standpoint what exactly differentiates the 2 or if he still could have technically had TJ to repair it. I will also caveat by saying Georgia was left mostly out of the loop on the medical stuff and his decisions on the surgery. But they were told from one doctor (guy that does all of the Braves’ TJ surgeries) that he needed actual TJ.

How one doctor comes to one conclusion and another comes to a different conclusion and how they differentiate and know which will work and what severity is… no idea. I found it interesting though
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ICANEDOIT said:
Hadn't heard that. Would it be because his injury was so sudden vs., for example, a picture whose ligament gets damaged over time?
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Actually, more and more pitchers are going with the brace surgery in the last couple of seasons. It provides a quicker recovery time and so far has held up to wear and tear as good as the full surgery.
 
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JayCane20 said:
I don’t know from a medical standpoint what exactly differentiates the 2 or if he still could have technically had TJ to repair it. I will also caveat by saying Georgia was left mostly out of the loop on the medical stuff and his decisions on the surgery. But they were told from one doctor (guy that does all of the Braves’ TJ surgeries) that he needed actual TJ.

How one doctor comes to one conclusion and another comes to a different conclusion and how they differentiate and know which will work and what severity is… no idea. I found it interesting though
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I don’t think Georgia wanted to take that chance with him possibly not being 100% and being a distraction in case Stockton struggled. TJ woulda kept him out long enough so probably why recommended first.
 
tsimonitis said:
Actually, more and more pitchers are going with the brace surgery in the last couple of seasons. It provides a quicker recovery time and so far has held up to wear and tear as good as the full surgery.
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That’s my question, are they interchangeable or different types of injury leads to one method vs the other?

Throwing a football isn’t as high stress as a baseball on the UCL which was my understanding as to why the brace repair is more fitting for a QB
 
JayCane20 said:
That’s my question, are they interchangeable or different types of injury leads to one method vs the other?

Throwing a football isn’t as high stress as a baseball on the UCL which was my understanding as to why the brace repair is more fitting for a QB
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There is definitely a lot more torsion on the elbow pitching than throwing a football, and 2-3 times the # of throws at full velocity per game. For a starting pitcher at least.
 
JayCane20 said:
That’s my question, are they interchangeable or different types of injury leads to one method vs the other?

Throwing a football isn’t as high stress as a baseball on the UCL which was my understanding as to why the brace repair is more fitting for a QB
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www.birminghammedicalnews.com

The UCL Internal Brace is an Alternative to Tommy John Surgery

By Jane Ehrhardt For two years, Jeff Dugas, MD tested an idea on the elbows of cadavers that would offer an alternative to the Tommy John surgery, which is a reconstruction procedure that replaces the damaged ligament with a grafted tendon. Instead of reconstruction, Dugas, an orthopedic...
www.birminghammedicalnews.com

Short answer yes…long answer mostly yes. Seems that a brace is actually more effective if there isn’t long term wear and tear on the ligament and actually preferable to sustained recovery
 
That’s a good read on the UCL internal brace. And the surgeon makes a very good point about the increase in UCL injuries in pitchers having to do with MLB making baseballs smoother, and requiring a tighter grip on breaking balls and sliders. On a fastball you generally use the seams, on a curveball, having to use a tighter grip on the non seam portion of the ball would logically cause you to make rotation with more stress on the ligament.
 
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ah, yes, the ole "mental reps". Al Golden yelled this at four freshman who were sitting down in the shade during spring practice.
 
Reyrey said:
RELAX. Everything you said is obvious. I’m highlighting how stupid that article is and how dumb most of these articles are considering the writers have no idea what’s going on.

Here’s that article: https://t.co/kgiQbRYsKl
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Feel like that journo just making **** up. Doubt some NFL draft writer for the ringer has any clue about how Beck has looked throwing, considering he didn't participate in spring practice beyond being there
 
flips said:
Feel like that journo just making **** up. Doubt some NFL draft writer for the ringer has any clue about how Beck has looked throwing, considering he didn't participate in spring practice beyond being there
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I called him out on it. This was his response…

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TheOriginalCane said:
There's a difference between "playmakers" and "proven playmakers".

Never forget, the most common "play" that UGa WRs "made" last year was "dropping the ball".
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We should have gotten Jojo some touches last year. Now we need him to go from zero to sixty in one offseason which isn’t easy.
 
tsimonitis said:
www.birminghammedicalnews.com

The UCL Internal Brace is an Alternative to Tommy John Surgery

By Jane Ehrhardt For two years, Jeff Dugas, MD tested an idea on the elbows of cadavers that would offer an alternative to the Tommy John surgery, which is a reconstruction procedure that replaces the damaged ligament with a grafted tendon. Instead of reconstruction, Dugas, an orthopedic...
www.birminghammedicalnews.com

Short answer yes…long answer mostly yes. Seems that a brace is actually more effective if there isn’t long term wear and tear on the ligament and actually preferable to sustained recovery
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Really interesting article. Lot of mystery and speculation about Beck’s injury, but obviously because very few know specifics. He’s spoken about exhaustive rehab and regaining range of motion before surgery, so hopefully that’s a plus. Surgery was a day or two before Xmas. Impressive if he’s back throwing.
 
RightSaidFred said:
We should have gotten Jojo some touches last year. Now we need him to go from zero to sixty in one offseason which isn’t easy.
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While I do not disagree with getting reps for some younger guys, I still don't know how many catches you could have given JoJo that would allow Beck to have a ton of confidence in him, sight unseen. Not saying that JoJo can't do it, just that Carson needs to have confidence in his WRs on Day 1 (Notre Dame) and doesn't have a lot of time to build on timing/rapport when he can't throw like he'll need to throw in games until August practice.

And I'm not saying there were a lot of options. It's just a tough situation all around.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
While I do not disagree with getting reps for some younger guys, I still don't know how many catches you could have given JoJo that would allow Beck to have a ton of confidence in him, sight unseen. Not saying that JoJo can't do it, just that Carson needs to have confidence in his WRs on Day 1 (Notre Dame) and doesn't have a lot of time to build on timing/rapport when he can't throw like he'll need to throw in games until August practice.

And I'm not saying there were a lot of options. It's just a tough situation all around.
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IMO they should have managed it better. They should have gotten Jojo quality touches last season. Then everyone would be more comfortable with him as the 1.

This offseason, since that didn’t happen, they should have brought in a proven #1 and let Jojo start opposite that player. Then in his third year he could be the guy.

As it is, he’s just going to be thrown into the deep end sight unseen and you have to hope he lives up to his high school rating.

I don’t like how it was handled. Hopefully it works out
 
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