One of the Biggest Issues with Manny's Staff...

[supersaiyanshel]

Notre Dame had the 24th ranked offense in college football in 2017 despite playing six ranked teams that season including Georgia, LSU, USC and Stanford.

We held them to their lowest point and yardage totals of the season.

27th, actually. And not to take ANYTHING away from Manny, that was a dominant performance defensively. That was a great offensive team.

 

[Go Canes!!]

He did stop ND...who had a horrible offense.....beats up on CMU, TOledo, FIU which makes the stats look good overall. Plays against ACC foes...who you should be able to stop(worst division in P5). Anytime he plays someone that has talent and has a good OC he gets his **** pushed in.

FAU was 9th, Colorado State was 11th, Toledo was 14th.. Much like dIAZ dEFENSE.... they beat up on the sh1tty teams and crapped the bed when they played talent. They were shell shocked in that game and Miami shut them down. What happened against Wisky(twice) Toledo(twice) BC, GT

Its the same as when he was at UT. Just lucky he corches against the Coarstal now.

Lmao.

What exactly happened against Toledo? First game back after barely practicing for two weeks cause of Irma. Completely shut down the #8 offense in the country after half time til we emptied the bench in a blowout win.

BC? They had what, two or three great drives with one of the top OL/RB combos in the country for 17 points and got gifted 10 points off picks? So what? Who didnt they run on? The D didn't play well enough for us to win on the road?

GT? Scored 7 points offensively. Wow, horrible.

You regurgitate the same cherry picked few games over and over. What about the other 40 plus games the D balled in? Oh yeah every other team sucked and we padded our stats with them.

Get some new material man, your acted is stale and boring.

 

[Go Canes!!]

You asked a simple question: "Why don’t you name the elite, championship level defenses that have stopped offensive juggernauts? " I provided a succinct and simple answer. The argument isn't flawed because you said championship level and offensive juggernaut.
It's a perfectly realistic example.

You asked how much better would our D be with Many scheming around 3 Senior First rounders, but whose to say that Manny would even play them, especially if one of them had a "Bad camp"? And secondly, how many first rounders has Manny even recruited a first rounder in his entire career (seriously asking).

I'll give you a more recent one if you like. Just last week. VT shut down one of the hottest offenses in the league in Wake Forest.

The defense is okay, man. It's nothing special. We play in a horrendous conference with horrible offenses. We are padding our stats against nobodies. You really think our Defense would slow down an Oklahoma? Or even the above example of Wake Forest?

Yeah they're just ok cause they aren't as good as Clemson's last year.

And they definitely won't stop Oklahoma like....Oh wait, nobody has shut down Oklahoma.

And Wake Forest? Really? These are some of their ACC point totals for this year--UNC 24--FSU 22--BC 27--Duke 24. A real monster offense.

You guys are hysterical. Cherry pick the best game by the best team in the country or one game and make it the rule for some impossibly attainable bar that you set. Then call our D average at best in comparison.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

Yeah they're just ok cause they aren't as good as Clemson's last year.

And they definitely won't stop Oklahoma like....Oh wait, nobody has shut down Oklahoma.

And Wake Forest? Really? These are some of their ACC point totals for this year--UNC 24--FSU 22--BC 27--Duke 24. A real monster offense.

You guys are hysterical. Cherry pick the best game by the best team in the country or one game and make it the rule for some impossibly attainable bar that you set. Then call our D average at best in comparison.

The first part of your post is pretty much an admission that our D isn't elite or championship level. If you want to make that argument, go right on ahead and do so.

Wake Forest has the number 13th ranked offense this year. I'd say they have a monster offense. I don't know what metric you want to use to argue otherwise.

OSU stopped Oklahoma. Held Riley's O to 2 TDs.

You can't get mad and claim cherry picking bc I provided an answer you didn't like (notice how you didn't dispute it) to a very SPECIFIC question you asked. Remember, my original parameter was ACC offenses. You're the one who brought in those two other aspects. The very nature of the question posed would mean any example provided will be cherry picked. Kinda like cherry picking the ND game in 2017.

But okay. How about UCF vs Cincinatti this year? Or how about Clemson vs UNC? Or Utah vs Washington State?

And we're so far from the original point of the thread which wasn't to bash our Defense or Offense, but to say that Manny would do well by the team and himself by bringing in some outside voices and concepts. Y'all boy so sensitive about our 8-4 coach.

 

[gogeta4]

There are no unique, singular voices on either side of the ball staff wise. The Defense are all disciples of Manny, except for Rumph. Stroud is from that FSU coaching tree so he's from the same school as Manny.

On the offense, every one is basically an Enos disciple or a scheme neophyte.

This creates a brain drain so to speak. No fresh ideas. No new outside the box voices in any of the planning. To be fair, this has been a problem at UM since Golden.

But it'd be nice to see Manny bring in some guys like Chad Morris (just a name) and Derek Mason (not realistic, but using as an example) in a support capacity to spice things up a bit.

Rumph is a Manny dusciple.He has never coached under anyone else either.

 

[Go Canes!!]

Why lets just look at last years CFP championship for starters.

Bama Top 10 offense.

Clemson stomped em.
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Dude. Really?

How well do you think

The first part of your post is pretty much an admission that our D isn't elite or championship level. If you want to make that argument, go right on ahead and do so.

Wake Forest has the number 13th ranked offense this year. I'd say they have a monster offense. I don't know what metric you want to use to argue otherwise.

OSU stopped Oklahoma. Held Riley's O to 2 TDs.

You can't get mad and claim cherry picking bc I provided an answer you didn't like (notice how you didn't dispute it) to a very SPECIFIC question you asked. Remember, my original parameter was ACC offenses. You're the one who brought in those two other aspects. The very nature of the question posed would mean any example provided will be cherry picked. Kinda like cherry picking the ND game in 2017.

But okay. How about UCF vs Cincinatti this year? Or how about Clemson vs UNC? Or Utah vs Washington State?

And we're so far from the original point of the thread which wasn't to bash our Defense or Offense, but to say that Manny would do well by the team and himself by bringing in some outside voices and concepts. Y'all boy so sensitive about our 8-4 coach.

I'm not sensitive, and it's not about Manny, it's about the kids on the field. I'm just not blind. And what I've seen is a D that's kept us in or outright won us games we ever should have over the last four years because of the anemic to downright embarrassing offenses we've fielded.

That's a great defense in my opinion. Not just one game examples.

 

[NJshoreCane]

Soooo....


You're not going to tell me the offensive juggernauts Manny's stopped or where they ranked offensively?

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I'll wait.

Sincerely,

Internet Tough Guy

Last year we player similar offenses.
Miami held their schedule to an average of 100 yards less than their normal game output.

 

[Disgustipated]

LOL, this board never fails. The lengths so of you go to discredit what Manny Diaz has done on the defensive side of the ball is incredible. The guy has produced on that side of the ball, at least be objective and give him credit.

 

[WestEndZone]

You say this with complete certainty. Who says they don’t exist? A coach can also develop into someone who earns a unique voice.

 

[Go Canes!!]

LOL, this board never fails. The lengths so of you go to discredit what Manny Diaz has done on the defensive side of the ball is incredible. The guy has produced on that side of the ball, at least be objective and give him credit.

It's mind numbing. Then if you point out how freaking stupid and lacking in perspective it is, they call you a coach slurped.

They all have the same MO, especially that fool Mikemike.

 

[Home Slice]

If we go 9-4 and the offense looks better he won’t make any changes. That fact that manny had to step in with the defense tells me Baker ain’t safe long term.

One would think, that right? I'm not so sure though.

 

[ShadowSpring]

Gonna be a long bye week.......

 

[swampcougar1]

Gonna be a long bye week.......

As the threads get dumber