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On Campus Stadium Question

It's very amusing that some people don't get the message; there is not going to be a football stadium on campus.

To begin with it's a terrible location as half the fans are from broward and Palm Beach counties and they aren't going to fight the traffic on South Dixie Highway. It would be an economic disaster.

There is no land on campus to put a stadium.

The City of Coral Gables will not allow the stadium and it's not in the master plan approved for future development. Hello they wouldn't even let the university add the remaining seats to the Bank United Center over traffic concerns.

It's a nice thought to have a stadium on campus but it is never ever going to happen. Tropical Park is the nearest realistic opportunity.
 
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i'm disappointed in you willie. you know that students won't give up the IM fields. EVER.

and you know that the plan that was circulating was nothing more than a pipe dream.

if you think an on campus stadium that sits 45K minimum, and yes we need that number, will happen, then you have some kind of brain damage.
 
This topic comes up about as often as the joke topic of the changing unis, helmets, and klam logo. Oh.
 
cubin10 said:
Kirijax said:
Embrace Sun Life.
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Tough to embrace that piece of **** hole when we had the orange bowl.
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I agree. I remember I was critical of the Orange Bowl though until it was gone. It was old and outdated but had lots of history and absence makes the heart grow fonder. That being said, I would still take OB over SLS any day. I've wished and wanted for a stadium but it just isn't going to happen. Just hoping they do the renovations right and make the changes needed to get that dead stadium something the fans can rally around. Not holding my breath though.
 
Lauderdale said:
It's very amusing that some people don't get the message; there is not going to be a football stadium on campus.

To begin with it's a terrible location as half the fans are from broward and Palm Beach counties and they aren't going to fight the traffic on South Dixie Highway. It would be an economic disaster.

There is no land on campus to put a stadium.

The City of Coral Gables will not allow the stadium and it's not in the master plan approved for future development. Hello they wouldn't even let the university add the remaining seats to the Bank United Center over traffic concerns.

It's a nice thought to have a stadium on campus but it is never ever going to happen. Tropical Park is the nearest realistic opportunity.
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Then there's only one alternative. Just like nomadic NFL teams, let's move the entire university to a more friendly South Florida community. As revenge against Coral Gables, the former campus will be turned into Redneck Amusement Park.
 
There is another issue that some of you have touched on a bit. Thats parking. As some of you noted the BUC doesn't have all the seats in. This is because the city of coral gables has an ordinance/code etc. governing the amount of parking that has to be available in relation to the capacity of a building. You can only guess what that would look like if we are talking about a stadium. The broke UMs balls on this when they built the BUC.

For those of you on campus feel free to stop by and talk with the guys from Global Spectrum who manage the BUC. They will fill you in on the horror stories with coral gables. Its the biggest love hate relationship you will ever find. Coral Gables will only allow the school enough to get by thats it. They know that if the school wanted to leave over a 50 year period they would lose not only the tax revs but also all of the businesses around the school would dry up as well. They also know how costly that would be for UM and how logistically difficult it would be. So, they give in here and there but only after crying and screaming and stiffing them on some other ****.

You wanna go ahead and build this?? Ok fine but now your going to pay 1/3 more for the police to etc. etc. etc... Although it was needed anyways thats why all of the garages went up at the same time as the BUC.

Ill throw another one at you. Imagine the nightmare scenario. A home football game, a home basketball game, and an on campus event. Swap out basketball game for concert if you want. Whatever your choosing. Can you imagine all of this going on around 6PM? Yes I know that you can casually say well you just simply schedule... Yeah, listen in my line of work I have intimate knowledge of how colleges, and professional sports teams do their schedules. Nobody cares and nobody thinks it out.

If you are commenting here saying its the school or donna or whatever you really aren't informed and you are giving your feelings not facts.

Again. If this were like BC and the stadium had been built years ago as a 5k seat place and expanded on over time it would be totally different. To do it now would be a massive shock to the system.
 
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Also, for those of you that are interested. I had a conversation with someone from SLS the other day at a conference. They said that the plan for the lower bowl was to "rescale the seats" meaning adjust the pitch to bring the seats closer on the away side since they are the temporary ones. I hope this isn't the case. A lot of us thought that the playing field would be lowered and the angle of the bowl kept the same. This would allow for better viewing with rows being added towards the bottom.

If they lessen the angle to add rows then your going to have people sitting much higher in front of you.
 
They could put it on campus and still keep the IM fields. Just design it like a Murphy bed and fold it up during the week.
 
take away IM fields, soccer stadium and build it around the Hecht, incorporating that building into the stadium as football/athletic offices. even build on two of the 4 greentree fields and cover the other two.

I hate this athletic department. This is their ******* jobs and here we are doing everything we can trying to come up with ideas
 
I'll never understand why no one considers eminent domain on the houses next to Marlins stadium.
Two stadiums side by side. It could work.
Build a better newer OB.
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eleganttomcat said:
take away IM fields, soccer stadium and build it around the Hecht, incorporating that building into the stadium as football/athletic offices. even build on two of the 4 greentree fields and cover the other two.

I hate this athletic department. This is their ******* jobs and here we are doing everything we can trying to come up with ideas
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infrastructure can't handle it. period. we could have a stadium-sized piece of land on campus and we would never get the roads built.
 
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eleganttomcat said:
take away IM fields, soccer stadium and build it around the Hecht, incorporating that building into the stadium as football/athletic offices. even build on two of the 4 greentree fields and cover the other two.

I hate this athletic department. This is their ******* jobs and here we are doing everything we can trying to come up with ideas
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Gables is the issue.
 
Crazy4thecanes said:
I'll never understand why no one considers eminent domain on the houses next to Marlins stadium.
Two stadiums side by side. It could work.
Build a better newer OB.
No one ever *****ed about that drive......
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how would you justify eminent domain? it's not a public benefit, nor is it a necessity to anyone but us. sure the people losing their property get whatever amount an assessment would give them, but you can't put a price on the cost of forcing someone to leave their home. i want a stadium as much as the next guy, but not at the cost of someone else's home.
 
If only we had the CEO of let's say one of the largest land developers in the country in a position of power at the school. Like maybe as chairman of the BoT? That'd be swell. It'd seem like a guy like that could figure this out if there was any motivation to do so. Oh well.

That aside, once those renovations at SLS start to actually be evident then we can all kiss this dream goodbye for at least another decade. The conversation then will be framed by the school as to how awesome the place is. "Look! The NFL just gave the place a Super Bowll! Look! We just got the NC Game! How lucky are we?! What other school can claim that?!"
 
nikkoum said:
There is another issue that some of you have touched on a bit. Thats parking. As some of you noted the BUC doesn't have all the seats in. This is because the city of coral gables has an ordinance/code etc. governing the amount of parking that has to be available in relation to the capacity of a building. You can only guess what that would look like if we are talking about a stadium. The broke UMs balls on this when they built the BUC.

For those of you on campus feel free to stop by and talk with the guys from Global Spectrum who manage the BUC. They will fill you in on the horror stories with coral gables. Its the biggest love hate relationship you will ever find. Coral Gables will only allow the school enough to get by thats it. They know that if the school wanted to leave over a 50 year period they would lose not only the tax revs but also all of the businesses around the school would dry up as well. They also know how costly that would be for UM and how logistically difficult it would be. So, they give in here and there but only after crying and screaming and stiffing them on some other ****.

You wanna go ahead and build this?? Ok fine but now your going to pay 1/3 more for the police to etc. etc. etc... Although it was needed anyways thats why all of the garages went up at the same time as the BUC.

Ill throw another one at you. Imagine the nightmare scenario. A home football game, a home basketball game, and an on campus event. Swap out basketball game for concert if you want. Whatever your choosing. Can you imagine all of this going on around 6PM? Yes I know that you can casually say well you just simply schedule... Yeah, listen in my line of work I have intimate knowledge of how colleges, and professional sports teams do their schedules. Nobody cares and nobody thinks it out.

If you are commenting here saying its the school or donna or whatever you really aren't informed and you are giving your feelings not facts.

Again. If this were like BC and the stadium had been built years ago as a 5k seat place and expanded on over time it would be totally different. To do it now would be a massive shock to the system.
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Its a fact that there wouldn't be an on campus event, a football game, and a basketball game at the same time. Just doesn't happen, plain and simple. It seems to me, you're basically saying best spot would be Tropical Park.
 
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