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Hegemon said:
They must die.
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Katzenboyer said:
I'm a season ticket holder for the Canes and was there in 2017 for the ND game. It's a legitimate homefield advantage when the place is packed.

I just don't think it's going to be the deciding factor in this game. While your OL analysis is spot on, those two units won't be matched up against each other - it's the Canes OL v. the ND DL (which probably decides the game), and the ND OL v. the Canes DL (where I think the Domers have the advantage). I'm also slightly concerned about Beck without Georgia's weapons, ND's secondary against our WRs, Jeremiah Love/JD Price, and ND's returning production from last year's playoff run.

Is it a game I think the Canes can win? 100%, and the Vegas line reflects that. But comparing 2017's UM team to 2025's is the same as comparing apples to potatoes; it really doesn't mean anything, and if we're hanging our hat on the "environment" at Hard Rock winning the game for us, we can ask the Gators how that turned out for them last Labor Day.
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I looked it up & ND opened last season at night at Texas A&am in front of 107,000 fans.
On Gameday Nick Saban said it is the toughest environment to play in, & ND won by double-digits.
ND also played win or go home games at USC, IU, UGA in Sugar, PSU in Orange then National Championship game.
I agree I don’t think the environment will matter to them.
 
af97 said:
I looked it up & ND opened last season at night at Texas A&am in front of 107,000 fans.
On Gameday Nick Saban said it is the toughest environment to play in, & ND won by double-digits.
ND also played win or go home games at USC, IU, UGA in Sugar, PSU in Orange then National Championship game.
I agree I don’t think the environment will matter to them.
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We played at A&M. It’s want loud at all. Wasn’t really impressed by their home field advantage other than the shting horses.
 
af97 said:
I looked it up & ND opened last season at night at Texas A&am in front of 107,000 fans.
On Gameday Nick Saban said it is the toughest environment to play in, & ND won by double-digits.
ND also played win or go home games at USC, IU, UGA in Sugar, PSU in Orange then National Championship game.
I agree I don’t think the environment will matter to them.
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Saban was doing what most commentators do, hyping a game.
I went to a Tennessee at TAMU game several years ago. College Station even at full capacity in a tight game, was no where near as loud as some games I’ve been to at the OB with 60% of the attendance.
They are a very mild mannered fan group no where near as raucous and loud as one might think 100,000 plus might be. Is it the stadium’s construction, don’t know, just saying it didn’t strike me as loud.
JRS used to not be a loud stadium either before the renovations. As well the advertising displays around JRS, I swear raise the temperature in the stadium on what is going to be a hot muggy night. TAMU doesn’t have those.
 
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FrancisSawyer said:
Notre Dame will have arguably the best Offensive Line in the nation, a stud running back in Jeremiyah Love and a first time starter at QB in CJ Carr when they open the 2025 season here at The Rock. Consequently their game plan will be as mysterious to the average college football fan as a toilet would be to a plumber. Memo to Corey Hetherman.....Stop The Run!
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They will also have the zebras overwhelmingly in their favor. Mario better have our Canes ready to play.
 
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CaneTheGaytors said:
They will also have the zebras overwhelmingly in their favor. Mario better have our Canes ready to play.
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Won’t it be an ACC crew? The ACC doesn’t get anything from ND going to the playoffs instead of us.
And despite the multitude of times we’ve been raped by refs, I thought they did an overall much better job this year since the centralized replay.
 
Katzenboyer said:
I'm a season ticket holder for the Canes and was there in 2017 for the ND game. It's a legitimate homefield advantage when the place is packed.

I just don't think it's going to be the deciding factor in this game. While your OL analysis is spot on, those two units won't be matched up against each other - it's the Canes OL v. the ND DL (which probably decides the game), and the ND OL v. the Canes DL (where I think the Domers have the advantage). I'm also slightly concerned about Beck without Georgia's weapons, ND's secondary against our WRs, Jeremiah Love/JD Price, and ND's returning production from last year's playoff run.

Is it a game I think the Canes can win? 100%, and the Vegas line reflects that. But comparing 2017's UM team to 2025's is the same as comparing apples to potatoes; it really doesn't mean anything, and if we're hanging our hat on the "environment" at Hard Rock winning the game for us, we can ask the Gators how that turned out for them last Labor Day.
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The difference is the QB and home field advantage.

Advantage UM
 
af97 said:
I looked it up & ND opened last season at night at Texas A&am in front of 107,000 fans.
On Gameday Nick Saban said it is the toughest environment to play in, & ND won by double-digits.
ND also played win or go home games at USC, IU, UGA in Sugar, PSU in Orange then National Championship game.
I agree I don’t think the environment will matter to them.
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Texas A&M was nowhere near as good as this years UM.
 
Yeah playing in Hard Rock won't be a big deal.
I've been to a ND game on their campus, and let me tell you Midwest families, especially in that area, its guns god and football and I'm not sure in what order.
The traditions they have make it have a lot of pressure.

I think if you get up early on them, say 14-0 in the 1st quarter, then just play ball control and go all in on their run game, it'll be a 21-13 type game.
 
Canedog said:
Rock the ND bus with the players in it like 2017. They was shook.
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Still my best memory of pre-game at Hard Rock was seeing that happen.

Someone threw something through the bus window as well, allegedly. I missed that part. Maybe it was on the other side of the bus.

Had them so rattled.
 
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canecrazy23 said:
The difference is the QB and home field advantage.

Advantage UM
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Is it?

Beck wasn't great last year. If he turns it around and plays like he did in 2023, sure, I'll feel better. But he's coming off a major injury and wasn't all that impressive in multiple games before the injury occurred. And Miami's offensive weapons aren't what UGA was rolling out in his two seasons as a starter.

On top of that, ND's defense most likely will be a Top 10-15 unit, and their secondary is their strength. While Golden's loss hurts, it's still Freeman's defense, and they return a ton of production on that side of the ball (and get back 2 guys in Bothelho and Traore who were starters at the beginning of the year, but who got injured and weren't even there for ND's playoff run; they have a ton of depth on the DL). If Beck doesn't have time to throw, or our WRs and TEs can't get open, does it matter if Beck gets the advantage at QB over Carr?

The 2017 ND team that Miami smoked finished 10-3 and limped to the finish line that year, much like the Canes did. The 2025 ND team that walks into Hard Rock is far better than that season, and their strengths align with our weaknesses.

Again, I'm not saying that the Canes can't win; they can, and I believe the game will be close. But those expecting a blowout just because of Beck and Hard Rock? I just don't see it.
 
Arehel said:
Yeah playing in Hard Rock won't be a big deal.
I've been to a ND game on their campus, and let me tell you Midwest families, especially in that area, its guns god and football and I'm not sure in what order.
The traditions they have make it have a lot of pressure.

I think if you get up early on them, say 14-0 in the 1st quarter, then just play ball control and go all in on their run game, it'll be a 21-13 type game.
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It's funny because that's the exact thing they said right before the 2017 game. That the crowd noise wouldn't be a big deal. LOL
 
I'm assuming the Domers think they can bully people with the OL. They will rely heavily on the run and why not? they have an excellent RB. Can we stop the run and force the kid to pass?
 
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