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Notre Dame AD: ACC did “permanent damage”

SFbayCane said:
As we get a couple days of distance from the selection and ND's reaction, my thought is changing a bit. I'm sort of the opinion that ND wanted out of the ACC for a while now any may be using this event as a negotiating ploy to minimize the exit fees.

Just a thought.
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SFbayCane said:
As we get a couple days of distance from the selection and ND's reaction, my thought is changing a bit. I'm sort of the opinion that ND wanted out of the ACC for a while now any may be using this event as a negotiating ploy to minimize the exit fees.

Just a thought.
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That's a reasonable conclusion to draw and certainly possible. There is more money to be made in the BIG or SEC and those two conferences are king right now, so there's that. I think ND values independence more than increased revenues, and that is much harder to do without the ACC deal.

I pay close attention to ND, and have heard nothing about wanting to move on from the ACC until recently. There are complaints that are really no different than yours - the refs are ****, the conference leadership is incompetent, teams are **** which hurts SOS, but nothing about leaving.
 
SFbayCane said:
As we get a couple days of distance from the selection and ND's reaction, my thought is changing a bit. I'm sort of the opinion that ND wanted out of the ACC for a while now any may be using this event as a negotiating ploy to minimize the exit fees.

Just a thought.
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I have to disagree with you. They want no part of a Big Ten or SEC heavy schedule every year.

They’re perfectly content with all their other sports being in our conference and beating up the bottom feeders of ours, while maintaining their independence.

In my opinion, this will all blow over and they aren’t going anywhere. We are the only conference that has sent dictate so many of their terms.
 
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Go Canes!! said:
I have to disagree with you. They want no part of a Big Ten or SEC heavy schedule every year.

They’re perfectly content with all their other sports being in our conference and beating up the bottom feeders of ours, while maintaining their independence.

In my opinion, this will all blow over and they aren’t going anywhere. We are the only conference that has sent dictate so many of their terms.
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This. They wouldn't be able to pick and choose the generally subpar teams they pick to play if they were actually in a conference.
 
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I would like to welcome some of you who have learned in the last couple of weeks why some of us hate Notre Dame with a passion unbridled above everybody else because when you add the magnification national ******* factor of their apologists (**** you **** vitale, you're dead to me) & absolute egotistical elitist entitled bull**** in, nobody compares.

Then add the fact that they used racist **** to essentially call your entire team and community a bunch of criminals and it has stuck, well you go next level then, even if we have embraced it in the meantime, as a way of owning it

**** them leprechaun ******* forever.

now you know. they came to the jungle. we welcomed them. they died 3x as a result
- on the field in august
- on social media as we destroyed their narrative the last few weeks
- on the tv screens replay this past saturday and sunday.


give me their tears, and we can water the desert and make it orange and GREEN
 
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StPeteCane said:
This. They wouldn't be able to pick and choose the generally subpar teams they pick to play if they were actually in a conference.
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ND hasn't avoided scheduling difficult games. They have no control over who they play in the ACC, and to the extent they can control it, they ahve tried to ensure they play Miami, Clemson and FSU. They schedule USC every year. Can't help it that they have been ****. They have scheduled OSU, Michigan, Bama, Georgia, Texas etc.

I think you're giving too much credit to the SEC and BIG. Use Miami as an example against the BIG and SEC playoff team schedules.

OSU - Miami is a favorite against every team OSU played (would have been a dog to Texas in week 1 but right now you'd be favored at home).
Indiana - Miami favored against everyone except @Oregon
Oregon - Miami favored against everyone except IU.

Texas AnM - Miami favored against everyone except @ND and maybe @Texas by a point or less.
Oklahoma - Miami favored against everyone except @Texas (same as above, that's a maybe)
Georgia - Miami favored against their entire schedule.
Ole Miss and Bama - Miami favored against everyone except @Georgia.

The SEC isn’t what it was five years ago, and the Big Ten is watered down just like the ACC, maybe only slightly less. We keep getting told the big difference is the bottom-dwellers in the SEC are all “tough outs.” That’s why Ole Miss barely beat Florida and Arkansas, right? Only problem is we all saw what ND did to Arkansas and what Miami did to Florida.
 
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