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Random off-season topic: What do you guys think their record will be entering Miami?

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To be 4-4, they'd have to win the 3 games they'll likely be favored in (FCS, GT, BC? - possible) and win once as a dog against LSU (in New Orleans)/Louisville on the road/Wake at home (possible). Clem and NCST don't really deserve a mention. Are both possibilities probable? I doubt it.

3-5, final answer.
 
Random off-season topic: What do you guys think their record will be entering Miami?

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I see the best case scenario for them here is 3–5, the base case scenario is 2-6. If they play besides themselves and earth is hit by an asteroid, and have a bunch of lucky bounces, they might come in 4–4, but that would be an insane nearly-impossible run of luck they would have to have.
 
Moving from Oxford to Tallahassee?
A school that’s broke with a booster as the AD.
Having to compete with Gapier and Mario for in state recruits.
I can’t see it happening. Unless he only cares about salt water fishing.
Tally would be a **** spot for offshore fishing, right in the armpit of FL. Super long boat and car ride to even get to fishing grounds. You could literally fly to Lauderdale/Miami and get to fishing grounds quicker than leaving from tally to the closest boat ramp and taking that long *** boat ride.
 
Tally would be a **** spot for offshore fishing, right in the armpit of FL. Super long boat and car ride to even get to fishing grounds. You could literally fly to Lauderdale/Miami and get to fishing grounds quicker than leaving from tally to the closest boat ramp and taking that long *** boat ride.
Yeah but it’s closer to the gulf than Oxford.
 
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Tally would be a **** spot for offshore fishing, right in the armpit of FL. Super long boat and car ride to even get to fishing grounds. You could literally fly to Lauderdale/Miami and get to fishing grounds quicker than leaving from tally to the closest boat ramp and taking that long *** boat ride.

Literally minutes off the coast in South Florida you can be catching a shlt load of dolphin.
 
Literally minutes off the coast in South Florida you can be catching a shlt load of dolphin.
Yeah and most of the state isn’t like that either. Anywhere on the gulf side you have to go really far to hit any deep water and anything north of Jupiter on the Atlantic side is the same. I’ve “accidentally” caught dolphin while heading back to shore quite a few times. I’ll always leave a few lines out until I’m back in <30 feet
 
Norvell's nightly nightmares, where he sees Cristobal waiting across the sidelines...

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Yeah and most of the state isn’t like that either. Anywhere on the gulf side you have to go really far to hit any deep water and anything north of Jupiter on the Atlantic side is the same. I’ve “accidentally” caught dolphin while heading back to shore quite a few times. I’ll always leave a few lines out until I’m back in <30 feet
Wait, you can't harvest a dolphin tho, right?
 
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That's the thing with FSU right now, they have a wait and see approach with Norvell for the next two years just to see if they will fire him or not. Aside from an utter disaster of a season 4-8, 3-9, he will not be fired, so if he goes 6-6 or 7-5 they will keep him for 2023. Now going into the 2023 season, he would still have a losing record after three seasons and he could very well be on his last leg, meaning his future at FSU is not set in stone. If he goes 7-5 again recruiting will stay down and possibly worse because players wont want to come to a place where they dont know who their coach will be. Now if FSU wants to move on from Norvell they have to think about can they afford it and which coach would actually be interested in taking the job. I think Deion would get a mixed welcome, their fans seem to be divided on him as a coach.
Imho Deion doesn’t want the job, at least not yet. In his current role he has the flexibility to meet all of his media and business obligations. Being a D1 coach is a full time 24/7 job, and it doesn’t seem to me like he’s interested in that pathway right now. Could change, but his current coaching job gives him a lot more freedom. Also, not convinced he could right the ship there. They need a coach who’s a proven builder, and unfortunately for them the market is pretty set the next few years.
 
You're 100% correct, on the surface. They absolutely do not have the money. But they didn't have the money to buy out Taggart. Like, at all. And they did anyway. So they're clearly in a worse situation, but trust me, if they go 2-10, he's gone. They'll "find" the money. Believe me.

And what you're referring to RE: tax appropriations is also correct, however they're going after that money because they can. If you can get the money from the citizens of your county, then why pay for it yourself? See: Just about every single professional sports stadium in the world. Just last week the Titans owner said he needs money to fix Nissan Stadium, which is falling apart. No, he WANTS tax dollars. Because he doesn't want to spend his own money. He doesn't NEED the tax dollars.

FSU is absolutely in terrible shape financially. But there are definitely still some proud boosters who have deep pockets. They didn't go from buying Jimbo's classes for years to unable to fix a urinal overnight. But they sure as **** are hoping they don't HAVE to dig into those pockets for another buyout. They will, however, if Mike completely implodes this year. It'd have to be really, really bad. But it's possible.

The far more likely scenario is he goes something like 6-6, 5-7, 7-5 etc and they can keep him. The last thing in the world they want to do is buy him out because they really are strapped for cash. But 2-10 and he is 100.0% fired.
Either way it's a win/win for us. They'll keep muddling along for a decade in mediocrity like we did. They'll waste money like they did with Taggert. Between paying Taggert and corn row Mike, they're paying almost as much as Mario’s salary, but divided into 2 mediocre coaches.

Their fans are delusional with their win over us last year. That made their season. Still, a losing one for 3 (edit: 4 2018-2021) consecutive years. I watched a couple of their YouTube fancasts. They're completely delusional asking if they'll get back to being a national power in 2022. They think 8-4 is back. I commented that Miami fired it's coach for going 7-5, so how's 8-4 back? The best thing that could happen is them going 7-5 or 8-4 and getting their hopes up that they've turned the corner.

Looking at where we are with the staff and organization from what we were is night and day. We were delusional as well after our 10-3 season thinking Manny could duplicate that within a few years. We did not have the organization, the leadership, or the right head coach to become a national power again.

What I've learned and have come to understand from watching Mario operate over the last 6 months is that the top programs operate not only like a successful corporation, but a well funded, well staffed, and well trained military preparing for war. With the organization, the facilities, and strategy in place, the future battles are already won before they've even started.

What the public will see 2-3 years from now will leave them asking themselves how did Miami get back to national prominence? They'll just say Miami bought their players and/or cheated discounting the hard work building a well oiled machine. I could care less WTF the outside world thinks!!! When the world of college football throws its biggest hate at us, we'll know we've arrived and it will be glorious in all its splendor!!!
 
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