OriginalGatorHater
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Hey, genius, since everything needs to be spoon-fed to you...
The O'Reilly tweet was hilarious because HE was the one commenting on non-disclosures. It's not the underlying "immorality" (your favorite topic) it's the hypocrisy and the irony of O'Reilly pontificating on NDAs. IT'S FUNNY.
Look, you didn't get the joke and you launched off on a tangent. It happens, I wouldn't hold that against you if it was your only *****-up.
But you double down with your sneering arrogance, calling people peons, just because you didn't understand the joke.
The difference between you and I is that I don't generalize and disrespect and insult people just because of who they are or what they do. You do, but I don't. I have respect for people on the Board of Directors of my company, even if I know on a factual basis that they are not involved in the day-to-day operations of the business. We all play our roles, and we can all respect each other. Well, you don't, but others can.
I don't like to make a lot of assumptions, but it seems like from your self-description (doesn't own companies, sits on boards, constant reference to Wall Street and "earners" and financial services companies) that you are on the investment/finance side. Good for you. I understand the way that people like you think. I'm not blaming you directly, but it is exactly the same mentality that enabled and empowered Jeffrey Epstein for so long.
So I understand your direct-relationship, shortest-distance-between-two-points-is-a-line logic of rationalizing how it is in the "best interests" of any and all companies to "protect their earners" and do anything (and here is where I take issue with your inability to distinguish between immoral and illegal) because you think that the only consideration is the revenue that a particular person generates.
But if you paid attention to the news, you would see that all of us "peons", all of the customers, all of the people from whom the "earners" derive their earnings, are increasingly paying attention to the morality or legality of the "earners". Nobody denies that you can hide some of these bad acts in the short-term, but eventually the dirt seems to come to the surface. A lot of people stopped buying Papa John's pizza because the CEO used the n-word. That's just one example, I don't want you to think I am using that as some blanket conclusion. Just one example.
We all choose to live our lives, some of us have a stronger code that we follow, others may be more flexible on morality.
I don't think I'm any better than anyone else (though it is fun to joke about it when debating someone online). I don't expect everyone to do what I do, but I'm not just a "talker", I also follow through. I have been a Bucs fan since 1976. I was a season ticket holder. I had plenty of Bucs gear, even the old creamsicle throwback jerseys. And when the Bucs were considering drafting Jameis Winston, I contacted a couple of people in the Bucs management, and told them that drafting Winston would be a deal-breaker for me as a Bucs fan, as the team had already gone too far in coddling Jerramy Stevens. Since that time, I cancelled my tickets and trashed all of my Bucs stuff. I haven't given the organization a cent, and they made plenty of money off of me from 1976 until 2014.
Not everybody behaves the same way, but if you want to believe that the bad acts by "earners" and the cover-ups that protect them do not have any impact on the bottom line, that's up to you. You are entitled to your opinion. But it doesn't make your opinion the final word.
I made a joke about the sheer arrogance of Bill O'Reilly commenting on NDAs. You didn't get the joke. So be it.
Good day, sir.
Back to the Nole tears.
Of course it impacts the bottom line, but not as hard as if they didn't do the cover up. They aren't doing these cover ups out of the goodness of their hearts. They are doing them to make more money. Which is my point. I didn't find O'Reillys tweet funny because it was obviously hyperbole. No one actually things every single company in the world uses NDAs. He is just saying it is a very common practice. I am not even a fan of O'Reilly and never even heard the tweet until you brought it up.
I am not arrogant, I just stated a fact. We hire guys(I guess peon offended you) to do work for us. So you only see a snapshot of what is actually happening.
You are using Epstein and Papa John as an example just because they got caught, but there are countless other "dirty businessmen" that will never get caught. You just don't see them on the media....... because they didn't get caught. You only hear about the guys that get caught. Which makes your average person think "ya it never happens because everyone of them that commits crimes gets busted".
This is the whole crux of my argument, that you aren't seeming to follow. You literally stated "eventually the dirt seems to come to the surface". This is just completely false. As I said before, I can see why you would think this, since you only hear about the "corruption" after they get in trouble and are on the news. Meanwhile tons of other businesses are doing the same thing, but will never get caught, so people just imagine it is not happening.