Highlights NFL data re: Miami Hurricanes Suck Donkey Balls (Dade and Broward on Decline To)

[stormbrewing]

Mario has a significant national recruiting budget. No reason not to look around the country for the best People for your program. Coachable people.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

For some reason this board has a weird fascination with trying to discredit South Florida high school football talent. It's borderline obsessive.
One "study" and now all of a sudden there's a decline of football talent in South Florida?

Let's make sure we notify the other 100 universities that are dying to recruit kids from down here. Make sure they know that there's no talent left.

Don’t you already know that people post sketchy shlt on the site just to get attention, if it’s a negative against Miami or South Florida all the better for them.

 

[grover]

Mario has a significant national recruiting budget. No reason not to look around the country for the best People for your program. Coachable people.

He's doing that. It doesn't take away from the fact he has a unique opportunity to bring in a large chunk of the top talent in the country from his backyard.

 

[Empirical Cane]

People getting all hostile in this thread over data.

I, nor the article, said SoFL athletes are bad, but merely pointed out that the once huge share of the pie is shrinking as other areas emerge.

That's demographic reality.

So, does this hurt or help Miami? I think it presents an opportunity where programs might start pull an athlete from another region while Miami can supercharge the pitch to stay home.

NIL doesn't hurt either.

Either way, just thought it ws interesting...

Go Canes.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Don’t you already know that people post sketchy shlt on the site just to get attention, if it’s a negative against Miami or South Florida all the better for them.

I get paid by the Maude's per negative article.

It's the "induce outrage" marketing strategy.

 

[WanderFranco]

Let's make sure we notify the other 100 universities that are dying to recruit kids from down here.

No one is "dying" to get kids down here, especially not 100 of them. The top programs have as many players from Maryland as they do from south Florida.

 

[88]

"Keep Miami hood" t-shirts hot off the press if anyone wants one

 

[gogeta4]

And if you stick with one geographic area, you will continue to get players who shouldn't be playing major P5 football.

Yet the geographic area continues to produce the most players that play major power 5 ball.

Mario is a national type recruiter so we will see how this goes in the next 3 cycles. Will be fun.

 

[gogeta4]

I believe the data shows SoFL's grip as #1 is weakening very quickly.

I would'nt doubt to see a fall to top 5 within 5 years or so.

With that said, SoFL remains a strong pipeline.

San Antonio-Austin Metro should start ramping up soon.

Theres over 40 nfl players from S.FLa based off of the posted....i dont see it slowign down any time oon...it may ramp up more than we have been with out weight limits for over 10 years in youth ball.

 

[gogeta4]

There are reasons for that. First, it’s a backlash against the “South Florida 3-star is a 4-star anywhere else” mentality that used to be all over these boards.

Second, it’s backlash against recruiting these players. A top kid from Ohio will commit to Ohio State 99% of the time with zero drama. Same for Alabama, Penn State, and so on. A top kid from South Florida? ****….there’s way too many games. Too much decision respecting. Too much enjoying the process. Too many Josh Jobes out there. Follow that for a few years and the kids become unlikeable.

Third, there’s a grain of truth that talent in South Florida isn’t what it was in the 80’s. Too much 7x7 and spread offense is creating a softer breed of kid down here. It tells you something that Nick Saban isn’t looking for any of these 5-star Florida kids (Innis, Brown, Hykeem) to be the next Calvin Ridley. How many top South Florida kids is he recruiting right now? Add that to the arrogant diva mentality mentioned above, and you have your reason for why people take their shots.

That said, South Florida is obviously a hotbed, nobody can dispute that.

Nick Saban recruited Innis....he officially visited there...he committed to 2 teams that run a better offense or one suited for him.

People take their shots because they are fans of Miami NOT from S.Fla and they cant fathom why we arent good and the easiest thing to do is say its the players from South Florida....its a bit weird honestly...but are fan base is a bit toxic in that way.

 

[Coach Macho]

There are reasons for that. First, it’s a backlash against the “South Florida 3-star is a 4-star anywhere else” mentality that used to be all over these boards.

Second, it’s backlash against recruiting these players. A top kid from Ohio will commit to Ohio State 99% of the time with zero drama. Same for Alabama, Penn State, and so on. A top kid from South Florida? ****….there’s way too many games. Too much decision respecting. Too much enjoying the process. Too many Josh Jobes out there. Follow that for a few years and the kids become unlikeable.

Third, there’s a grain of truth that talent in South Florida isn’t what it was in the 80’s. Too much 7x7 and spread offense is creating a softer breed of kid down here. It tells you something that Nick Saban isn’t looking for any of these 5-star Florida kids (Innis, Brown, Hykeem) to be the next Calvin Ridley. How many top South Florida kids is he recruiting right now? Add that to the arrogant diva mentality mentioned above, and you have your reason for why people take their shots.

That said, South Florida is obviously a hotbed, nobody can dispute that.

Actually, 7-on-7 has INCREASED the talent of skill kids in South Florida.
(including QB's)
South Florida has never been a place for OL, TE or DT's.
So, no change there.
We're not the only region in the country that runs spread. (everybody does)

And how do you know what Saban is looking for? Did you just reference Innis?
Dude, Innis is probably THE TOUGHEST receiver in the entire country. Kid could probably be a D1 Linebacker if he wanted to. He's an animal and dawg.

For all this BS talk about SOFLO diva mentality, we see OOS kids act like divas all the time and we brush it right under the rug. Doesn't fit the agenda.

The HS football culture down here is quite fvcked, but we're still the most talented region in the country. And the thing about toughness is bullsh!t. (especially pertaining to Dade kids)

Like 10 OOS teams came down here in August and all but one got their a$$es whooped and sent packing. (thanks Stranahan)
I'd love for somebody to explain that one to me.

 

[GoCanes!!]

I think it's a high school coaching issue but I could be wrong. Alabama seems to have some former well known college coaches at high school level these days

 

[Pentagon Cane]

For some reason this board has a weird fascination with trying to discredit South Florida high school football talent. It's borderline obsessive.
One "study" and now all of a sudden there's a decline of football talent in South Florida?

Let's make sure we notify the other 100 universities that are dying to recruit kids from down here. Make sure they know that there's no talent left.

Bingo. The question is what areas provide the most P5 talent? The second question is the most G5 talent? The number of kids pulled from SFL is all the matters in relation to other areas.

 

[hotshot]

There are reinforcements on the way in the next few classes. South Florida is still on top overall.

The bigger concern is the collapse of the Canes. We always ranked highly on NFL lists even when we sucked. Richt did a surprisingly poor job of acquiring talent.

The evidence isn't there to claim that anymore.

Used to be (back in the glory days of the 80s/early 90s) we took many lowly-regarded local players who played unbelievably well (a prime example that comes to mind is Albert Bentley, a "Walk On" from Immokalee). We wouldn't have won that first NC in the historic win over Nebraska in the OB without Bentley's running (scored the winning TD) and especially his excellent pass pro all night for Kosar. He later played for years in the NFL.

This century, we get a good share of So Fla HS best players, only to see too many disappoint on the field.

Those UM teams of the 80s, and the MANY players who went to UM from local HS's, are the basis for rightly giving South Fla HS ball the accolades it got, and still gets. I'm afraid though that we're now trading off those past decades and clinging to what's become more of a myth than reality.

 

[Glow]

I still don't understand why this is relevant. College football teams aren't required to pick an area to recruit from. You can recruit anywhere you want. South Florida having the "most" is still only a handful of draftable guys every year. But here we sit with almost 50 south Florida guys on our roster.

No one in the country, including Miami, can win anything by getting half of their guys from one geographic area.

It's relevant for the same reason that the odds of the median top 20 player from an Ohio HS putting * in his top 3 are greater than the odds of that player putting Oregon in his top 3, having a talented local pipeline is a competitive advantage even for nationally recruiting schools. It's also potentially a small advantage in the portal re: poaching kids with ties to the area.

Mario is a national recruiter who has already snatched kids from Bama and LSU on signing day so there is little reason to worry that hyper focus on one geographical area is going to be a problem for the program in this NIL era under Mario.

 

[RightSaidFred]

Actually, 7-on-7 has INCREASED the talent of skill kids in South Florida.
(including QB's)
South Florida has never been a place for OL, TE or DT's.
So, no change there.
We're not the only region in the country that runs spread. (everybody does)

And how do you know what Saban is looking for? Did you just reference Innis?
Dude, Innis is probably THE TOUGHEST receiver in the entire country. Kid could probably be a D1 Linebacker if he wanted to. He's an animal and dawg.

For all this BS talk about SOFLO diva mentality, we see OOS kids act like divas all the time and we brush it right under the rug. Doesn't fit the agenda.

The HS football culture down here is quite fvcked, but we're still the most talented region in the country. And the thing about toughness is bullsh!t. (especially pertaining to Dade kids)

Like 10 OOS teams came down here in August and all but one got their a$$es whooped and sent packing. (thanks Stranahan)
I'd love for somebody to explain that one to me.

I didn’t say it was limited to South Florida. Texas has all the same problems with softness hence why A&M and UT never win **** despite pulling top local kids. California has been that way for decades. In recent years, the toughest players seem like they’re coming from states that are slow to change like Georgia, Alabama and Louisiana, which is probably why the SEC peaked as much as it has. They didn’t get better, everyone else just got worse.

You build a time machine and pit the best South Florida high school from the 80’s vs the best school today and the 80’s wins by 50 points.

The whole city of Miami had an edge and toughness in the 80’s that seems to be gone today as the city has progressed. A kid grew up during the Miami riots playing 80’s ball for Central is going to have a different mentality from a kid going to American Herritage in 2022 playing 7x7 and Madden during the summer.

But my main point was these kids are entitled pain in the *** when they’re recruited, they’re all about themselves. Plus you have the adult handlers who might even be worse. That’s not going to earn you undivided loyalty from the fans. That’s going to mean the first time you stumble, everyone will jump on you because they don’t ******* like you because you act like an entitled diva *****. You act like that, you better produce.

Nobody ever called Duke Johnson a diva, so it’s certainly not everyone. But the ones that do earn all the blowback they get when they fail

 

[Coach Macho]

 

[gogeta4]

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They never have an answer for this though.

Would likely point to the Mater Dei's or those type of school that are pulling all the elite from the geographical area od those 4 schools listed. 3 of those 4 schools for the most part are splitting kids....not listed is Cardinal Gibbons as well who would smack around a lot of out of state teams.

The Broward publics aint sh*tty either.

Doing this with volunteer coaches smh.

 

[Coach Macho]

They never have an answer for this though.

Would likely point to the Mater Dei's or those type of school that are pulling all the elite from the geographical area od those 4 schools listed. 3 of those 4 schools for the most part are splitting kids....not listed is Cardinal Gibbons as well who would smack around a lot of out of state teams.

The Broward publics aint sh*tty either.

Doing this with volunteer coaches smh.

 

[capone091273]

African American neighborhoods are drying up in Dade.

Genrifcation is directly affecting those numbers imo.

Gentrification? You cannot be serious with that comment?