New Fullback

[The Franchise]

I think the new offense is going to incorporate more traditional two back sets with a real fullback. I wouldn't let the fact that he's coming from DII worry me too much. Since most college football teams rarely use a fullback these days, scholarships for fullbacks aren't given out often. Usually a coach will convert a running back or linebacker who had no chance of seeing the field at his original position (Walter Tucker) or they incorporate a random walk on, (Gage Batten) since the actual fullback is only going to be used in short yardage situations. A team that actually plans on using a traditional pro style offense needs an actual scholarship worthy player at the position since he's going to be getting significant playing time. Before James Coley installed his crappy version of the spread here, fullbacks like Maurice Hagens and Pat Hill were valuable pieces of a Miami offense.

Hagens and Hill were part of historically bad offenses at UM. They were regular players on horrible offenses.

 

[ThomasM]

I'm just saying, I trust Richt on this one more than I trust you. Nothing personal. It's a position where we needed a big body, and he got one. The kid is a blocker, and I like that. We haven't had a real FB in how long?

Have you ever made a roster decision?

Mark Richt > The Franchise

I get your concern, but we need a FB. I trust Richt here.

Yep. That place is Mars Hill.

Stick with that "Richt is infallible" mantra. After all, he's never made a roster mistake.

You criticized Folden. Are you a D1 HC? What gives you the right to criticize him?

Do you have to be a movie director to criticize movies?

 

[DTP]

Hagens was a member of a pretty explosive Jedd Fisch offense in 2012. Pat Hill was stuck playing on some terrible offensive teams but it wasn't his fault they had neither a quarterback or offensive coordinator worth much of anything.

 

[The Franchise]

I'm just saying, I trust Richt on this one more than I trust you. Nothing personal. It's a position where we needed a big body, and he got one. The kid is a blocker, and I like that. We haven't had a real FB in how long?

Have you ever made a roster decision?

Mark Richt > The Franchise

I get your concern, but we need a FB. I trust Richt here.

Stick with that "Richt is infallible" mantra. After all, he's never made a roster mistake.

You criticized Folden. Are you a D1 HC? What gives you the right to criticize him?

Do you have to be a movie director to criticize movies?

Saying you trust Richt more than me is understandable. To claim that you need to be a D1 HC to criticize Richt is straight buffoonery. See the difference?

I don't care about FBs at Miami. I don't think playing a FB too much caters to UM's recruiting strengths (speed). There's a place for a FB in short yardage sets, but I wouldn't waste a scholarship on one or play a FB regularly.

 

[bozcane]

Prolly not even 6 foot. But if at or near 265, with those weight room measurables he's a mack truck in the red zone or short yardage to plow a path. Will watch.

 

[The Franchise]

Hagens was a member of a pretty explosive Jedd Fisch offense in 2012. Pat Hill was stuck playing on some terrible offensive teams but it wasn't his fault they had neither a quarterback or offensive coordinator worth much of anything.

Fish's offense stunk. He ran up some numbers on horrific defenses, but his numbers overall weren't any better than Coley's.

 

[The Franchise]

Prolly not even 6 foot. But if at or near 265, with those weight room measurables he's a mack truck in the red zone or short yardage to plow a path. Will watch.

265 and strong is nice. Can he move well enough to get where he needs to be and not just get in the RBs way causing more problems? Can he get around the corner and seal the edge?

 

[DTP]

I still think Chris Herndon is going to get a majority of the snaps at FB/HB anyway. This guy is a graduate transfer. Maybe he becomes a short yardage extra blocker for a season and he's gone next year anyway. The coaches must believe he's an upgrade over Batten.

 

[252cane]

Prolly not even 6 foot. But if at or near 265, with those weight room measurables he's a mack truck in the red zone or short yardage to plow a path. Will watch.

265 and strong is nice. Can he move well enough to get where he needs to be and not just get in the RBs way causing more problems? Can he get around the corner and seal the edge?

Evidently richt and brown believe he can and thats why they offered.

 

[252cane]

I still think Chris Herndon is going to get a majority of the snaps at FB/HB anyway. This guy is a graduate transfer. Maybe he becomes a short yardage extra blocker for a season and he's gone next year anyway. The coaches must believe he's an upgrade over Batten.

247 said he is a rs sophmore.

 

[The Franchise]

Prolly not even 6 foot. But if at or near 265, with those weight room measurables he's a mack truck in the red zone or short yardage to plow a path. Will watch.

265 and strong is nice. Can he move well enough to get where he needs to be and not just get in the RBs way causing more problems? Can he get around the corner and seal the edge?

Evidently richt and brown believe he can and thats why they offered.

That's deep. Thanks for the enlightening contribution. You're the guy always crying about UM's lack of talent, and now you're ready to goat yourself over a D2 FB.

 

[TreOFive]

Richt knows his fullback so I will trust him. He has always had good fb's at both fswho and georgia. In fact many of the most reliable fullback at uga were walk on's or guys that were not heavily recruited.

we are shell shocked after being fugged by amateur corches that we can't trust a proven guy's evaluations. If richt felt he was worthy of a Scholly then I trust his eval. Don't need this guy to be naje...he needs to make blocks and plug lb's. If he can do that welcome aboard.

go canes

 

[canes732]

Anyone is better than batten that guy is terrible

 

[Billy D Williams]

First thing I looked for is to see if he was a stiff slug. Appears agile in those clips and willing to put a hat on a defender. Not short but still a oak tree stump that can clear a LB from the hole. Good FB until Richt can get his guy.

 

[Jassid82]

Def not sure what the sudden infatuation with the FB is with Richt. I cant remember FB being THAT big of an asset on his offenses at FSU besides when he had Zack Crockett. Richt acts like he cant think straight without having at least 3 FBs on the roster. Smh. Not sure I would have wasted a scholie but we will see what his role is.

 

[F-MarioCristobal]

I still think Chris Herndon is going to get a majority of the snaps at FB/HB anyway. This guy is a graduate transfer. Maybe he becomes a short yardage extra blocker for a season and he's gone next year anyway. The coaches must believe he's an upgrade over Batten.

247 said he is a rs sophmore.

He just graduated from Mars Hill. He was class of 2012. He RS in 2012, played in 2013, no info for 2014 and played in 2015. Should be coming in as a RS junior for 2016 on the field, that graduated in the classroom. Thats why he can transfer with no penalty.

 

[252cane]

Prolly not even 6 foot. But if at or near 265, with those weight room measurables he's a mack truck in the red zone or short yardage to plow a path. Will watch.

265 and strong is nice. Can he move well enough to get where he needs to be and not just get in the RBs way causing more problems? Can he get around the corner and seal the edge?

Evidently richt and brown believe he can and thats why they offered.

That's deep. Thanks for the enlightening contribution. You're the guy always crying about UM's lack of talent, and now you're ready to goat yourself over a D2 FB.

Once again your lack of knowledge of football is coming out. The guy is a fullback. A blocking fullback is the least talented guy on offense and probably the entire team.

Its not like he will be on the field every play. You dont have to be a 5 star recruit to play fullback.

 

[Cortez55403]

Like this FB a lot. In addition to FB, would not be surprised to see him on special teams, eg, punt protection and kick off return. He would scare me if he was waiting at the 20 ready to block the first kick coverage guy who comes his way.

For our one remaining slot, I too would love a CB ready to play and contribute. Sources?

* graduate transfer like Colbert from Texas.
* JUCO guy who was academically qualified out of high school like Shockey (also Aaron Rodgers' path to Cal)
* Div 2/3 guy like the FB we signed today. Never seen that before with the Canes. Usually, the transfer goes down a division to play right away rather moving up to play. JJ Watt moved up, I believe, to play at Wisconsin.
* transfer from a school that disbanded it's football program.

quiz: do you remember a Cane CB who transferred to UM after his school ended its football program? Answer below.




Answer: Chad Wilson joined the Canes after Long Beach State ended football. Good pickup!

 

[DTP]

I still think Chris Herndon is going to get a majority of the snaps at FB/HB anyway. This guy is a graduate transfer. Maybe he becomes a short yardage extra blocker for a season and he's gone next year anyway. The coaches must believe he's an upgrade over Batten.

247 said he is a rs sophmore.

He just graduated from Mars Hill. He was class of 2012. He RS in 2012, played in 2013, no info for 2014 and played in 2015. Should be coming in as a RS junior for 2016 on the field, that graduated in the classroom. Thats why he can transfer with no penalty.

So he's a graduate transfer with two years of eligibility remaining? Never seen that before.

 

[DMoney]

If we're going to use the fullback we need fullbacks. We were relying on walk-on LBs to play FB in the spring. This is a need pick-up and better than the alternatives.