Pretty sure ND is not affiliated with the conference in football only so they get to keep it.
Pretty sure ND is not affiliated with the conference in football only so they get to keep it.
We used to do that. When Schnellenberger won the National Championship - that was ten years before UM joined the Big East.
We were independent, and we played all over the country - and UM football was like a national flying circus. We got lots of games, lots of television exposure - even though there were only three primary networks.
I always thought that joining a conference - the Big East, and later the ACC was a bit of a mistake. That independence meant we got great national exposure, we were in great television demand, and we kept what we were paid.
Those were good days.
I always thought that joining a conference - the Big East, and later the ACC was a bit of a mistake. That independence meant we got great national exposure, we were in great television demand, and we kept what we were paid.
I always thought that joining a conference - the Big East, and later the ACC was a bit of a mistake. That independence meant we got great national exposure, we were in great television demand, and we kept what we were paid.
You are wrong and totally ignorant of the realities of big time athletics.
They share it with NAMBLA.
Stupid.They share it with NAMBLA.
Stupid.They share it with NAMBLA.
They share it with NAMBLA.
"you are wrong, but I won't explain why" - doppelganger
Pretty sure ND is not affiliated with the conference in football only so they get to keep it.
We used to do that. When Schnellenberger won the National Championship - that was ten years before UM joined the Big East.
We were independent, and we played all over the country - and UM football was like a national flying circus. We got lots of games, lots of television exposure - even though there were only three primary networks.
I always thought that joining a conference - the Big East, and later the ACC was a bit of a mistake. That independence meant we got great national exposure, we were in great television demand, and we kept what we were paid.
Those were good days.
OK, sorry, "the Church"They share it with NAMBLA.
you would know
"you are wrong, but I won't explain why" - doppelganger
You really need it explained to you why staying an Independent would've been a bad idea?
Miami lived and died by the revenue of the football program. The administration made the right call when they leveraged the football program to get into the best basketball conference in America (Big East). Then they did it again in 2003 to get into a bigger and more stable conference (ACC).
Now going forward we're in one of the two or three best conferences in college athletics.
Miami didn't have the fan base to sustain a "down" period while being an Independent. What do you think would've happened from 1995-99? Or 2006-15?
There's a reason why there's only one major independent and that's Notre Dame.
Pretty sure ND is not affiliated with the conference in football only so they get to keep it.
We used to do that. When Schnellenberger won the National Championship - that was ten years before UM joined the Big East.
We were independent, and we played all over the country - and UM football was like a national flying circus. We got lots of games, lots of television exposure - even though there were only three primary networks.
I always thought that joining a conference - the Big East, and later the ACC was a bit of a mistake. That independence meant we got great national exposure, we were in great television demand, and we kept what we were paid.
Those were good days.
That was the good old days. Us, ND, FSU and PSU were big boy independent back then. I always thought the 4 of us should have started our own conference rather than join another if we wanted to be in one.
I always thought that joining a conference - the Big East, and later the ACC was a bit of a mistake. That independence meant we got great national exposure, we were in great television demand, and we kept what we were paid.
You are wrong and totally ignorant of the realities of big time athletics.
"you are wrong, but I won't explain why" - doppelganger
Pretty sure ND is not affiliated with the conference in football only so they get to keep it.
We used to do that. When Schnellenberger won the National Championship - that was ten years before UM joined the Big East.
We were independent, and we played all over the country - and UM football was like a national flying circus. We got lots of games, lots of television exposure - even though there were only three primary networks.
I always thought that joining a conference - the Big East, and later the ACC was a bit of a mistake. That independence meant we got great national exposure, we were in great television demand, and we kept what we were paid.
Those were good days.
That was the good old days. Us, ND, FSU and PSU were big boy independent back then. I always thought the 4 of us should have started our own conference rather than join another if we wanted to be in one.
Honestly that would probably be easy and effective today. Create the independent conference. With the new conference championship rules you can have a championship game if it is between the division winners who play a full division round-robin schedule. If we created a 4 team independent conference, you could make one division ND & PSU and the other Miami & FSU. The winner of those two rivalry games get to meet for a conference championship, giving the committee the 13th game they want. The teams would only have one required game on their schedule then.
"you are wrong, but I won't explain why" - doppelganger
You really need it explained to you why staying an Independent would've been a bad idea?
Miami lived and died by the revenue of the football program. The administration made the right call when they leveraged the football program to get into the best basketball conference in America (Big East). Then they did it again in 2003 to get into a bigger and more stable conference (ACC).
Now going forward we're in one of the two or three best conferences in college athletics.
Miami didn't have the fan base to sustain a "down" period while being an Independent. What do you think would've happened from 1995-99? Or 2006-15?
There's a reason why there's only one major independent and that's Notre Dame.
Why couldn't Miami work like ND?
Edit: Nevermind, I saw your answer. Thank you
Edit: Sorry for needing it explained to me