NCAA makes 2 year roster waiver permenant.

[pyhooya]

If kids can just transfer whenever they want, why shouldn't the coaches be able to cut underperforming players? At the end of the day, their job is to win games. Playing nice and keeping kids who aren't contributing on the roster isn't going to save their job.

That only hurts the player, which is what I was getting at. Kid loses his scholarship and possibly nowhere to go. So the kid is out of an education cause most of them are not going pro

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

The NCAA just killed high school recruiting for the 2nd tier players (ie not top 1000 kids nationally). Those non super kids have nooooo chance now.

Go Canes

They can always transfer down a division. FBS to FCS or D2. If they aren't good enough for D2, they should be arrested for stealing a D1 scholarship.

 

[Paparazzi Tripp]

Wow, I would have thought you liked more photos, not fewer...


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I’ve actually worked with a few schools on the creative side of things and it’s a total waste honestly. Even on visits most of the kids don’t even take the visits seriously and not to mention the guys who don’t have a shot on earth to get recruited taking pics! Lol I have hard drives of guys who never used pics because they committed else where. (Ex. J. Brown the receiver from gulliver) he was on a visit while I was helping at the school in “Austin” and those will never surface cause he’s at LSU.

The unlimited OV’s will produce enough content for the kids!

 

[90scane]

Now fix the stupid *** 11.5 scholly limit for baseball just before you are completely irrelevant please.

Are there really any schoolly limits? By that, I mean NIL can fund just about any kid with no NCAA penalty and I'm pretty sure most of the walk-on limitations have been lifted in terms of player services.

 

[305_separatist]

That only hurts the player, which is what I was getting at. Kid loses his scholarship and possibly nowhere to go. So the kid is out of an education cause most of them are not going pro

It’s an athletic scholarship. If you can’t deliver on that and sustain it, tough luck. There’s always DIl schools.

 

[Fightinibis]

Are there really any schoolly limits? By that, I mean NIL can fund just about any kid with no NCAA penalty and I'm pretty sure most of the walk-on limitations have been lifted in terms of player services.

No idea, sounds nice…haven’t heard of any Miami baseball players getting NIL funding

 

[90scane]

They are getting some but not a UM degree worth. My point is that NIL could fill that gap for schools that want more scholarships. The school would simply need to push boosters to fund baseball NIL vs donations.

 

[TemplarCane]

They can always transfer down a division. FBS to FCS or D2. If they aren't good enough for D2, they should be arrested for stealing a D1 scholarship.

Why should the player be forced to transfer? Its not the player’s fault coaches mis-evaluated him, or the coach wants to replace a backup who will be a JR with a freshman recruit.

 

[SayWhat]

That's a win for big schools with deep pockets.

As for the rest, welcome to being a feeder fish.

 

[Calinative]

I like the rule change eliminating the 25 per class rule. I always thought it was dumb, even before the Portal.

You're capped at 85. How you get there should not be an issue.

I think the idea was to prevent programs from pushing a bunch of kids out of the program (like what Colorado did).

Now in reality you're not going to be a successful program if you're doing that except during a full on rebuild. So personally I don't think it's neccessary to try to prevent.

I think just the most logical solution is guarantee academic scholarships 4 years. You wanna kick 71 players off team and bring in a fresh 71? Well you still gotta provide the academic scholarships for those first 71, and they can't play. Obviously majority will leave regardless, but thats how you'd protect the Student-athletes best, not artificially limiting it to 25/yr.

 

[SFbayCane]

That's a win for big schools with deep pockets.

As for the rest, welcome to being a feeder fish.

The portal has shown us that there are multiple levels to this. There are guys from DII & DIII schools who are portaling up to FCS schools and guys from FCS schools portaling up FBS schools. And of course as you noted, there are guys going from mid-level FBS schools to upper eschelon FBS schools.

This is why I think the Portal is a great thing. It allows the marketplace to constantly reset your value.

 

[Kalikgod]

Not a fan of unlimited signings. Should increase it but put a cap. Going to see a lot of players getting "cut" to get enough scholarships. School signs 35 players and over 85..... kids going to get there scholarship pulled or cut players currently on the team?

I would like to see Cristobal just do NIL + Scout team to effectively keep a roster larger than 85 for the developmental guys

 

[Ironmanfootball]

I’m mixed on a coach being able to cut a player , I think they should be able to cut them from the team but the player should still be allowed to go to that school on a scholarship type thing .

That's how it currently works.

 

[JHallCanes]

The photo shoot thing is kinda funny

They know kids are getting paid for it so they’re like ok ok….ONLY on official visits

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Big fan of these changes. Finally the NCAA got something right.

 

[SayWhat]

The portal has shown us that there are multiple levels to this. There are guys from DII & DIII schools who are portaling up to FCS schools and guys from FCS schools portaling up FBS schools. And of course as you noted, there are guys going from mid-level FBS schools to upper eschelon FBS schools.

This is why I think the Portal is a great thing. It allows the marketplace to constantly reset your value.

It works both ways, but it's on steroids now. While there was no official portal prior, players did transfer around some.

My issue is that schools that could build something, but aren't in the big pocket or elite status, they're now going to be losing their key parts yearly. While that also happened some, it's again on steroids now.

You're mid tier, good luck ever going up in weight class with the way things are now. If you don't have deep pockets, forget about it entirely.

To stay at or even near the top, it's a spending game. The rich just got richer with this.

 

[cway313]

U can pull a Deion and root out the whole thing in 1 cycle lol. Im sorry but i like it. U can think a team suck last season and assume they are not good the next season until they are 6-0 and smoking everyone

Like Mario* we didn't bring in 71 but the number was well over 40 and the results so far are promising.

 

[streetja]

Do you think our Sugar Daddy can continue to fund us from the penitentiary?

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

Why should the player be forced to transfer? Its not the player’s fault coaches mis-evaluated him, or the coach wants to replace a backup who will be a JR with a freshman recruit.

Who said they are forced? They can stay at the school they are enrolled in, just not on the football team. If they are injured, typically the school keeps them on scholarship to allow them to finish their degree. They COULD apply the same principle to this situation - and in some cases may already be doing so. It's life. You don't do a good job at work and you can be replaced. The company doesn't owe you anything, unless you've pe-arranged a severance package. These kids are told that the scholarship is a one year renewable scholarship up to five years when they are offered and (typicaly) again when they are signing the LOIs. Feel free to disagree with me all you want, but I'm not buying the logic you're trying to apply here.

 

[SFbayCane]

It works both ways, but it's on steroids now. While there was no official portal prior, players did transfer around some.

My issue is that schools that could build something, but aren't in the big pocket or elite status, they're now going to be losing their key parts yearly. While that also happened some, it's again on steroids now.

You're mid tier, good luck ever going up in weight class with the way things are now. If you don't have deep pockets, forget about it entirely.

To stay at or even near the top, it's a spending game. The rich just got richer with this.

You say that as if the deep pockets game only started with the portal. It did not. It's always been that way. You may not be old enough to remember back when Texas and Alabama would sign 120+ kids on scholarship with the intent of keeping talent away from rival schools. That was a deep pocket move back in the early 70's. The only difference now is that the kids (labor) has the same ability as the schools/programs (capital). To me, this is a great thing.


Look at UM for a great example. How many kids did we lose out on over the past 20 years to the deep pocket schools? The Patrick Johnson/Peterson saga always comes to mind for me. Now that the Supreme Court put the NCAA in check, NIL has allowed kids to be compensated at the level the marketplace values them. Its not the rich getting richer, its value being placed properly based on true market value of one's skills. I can never hate on that.