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hoops156 said:
I agree, but we haven't been serious even when we were great. we've done it the same way and the only diff is that CFB changed and we haven't. we lucked into titles
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Coaches would come if they knew Miami was trying , and it wouldn’t have to be crazy money. People know the potential here if you’re worth your salt as a coach / program builder.
 
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wspcane said:
This is what makes no sense to me. Why in the **** is Blake still AD if people realize that any form of logic would dictate they need to fire him, get his replacement, and then let that replacement pick the next coach. No AD worth a salt is coming here with a brand new coach they did not choose and then have their career tied to that guy. None of these people would run their businesses like this, so I just do not understand how they allow it to happen here. It is common business sense.

This is not the Manhattan Project. If there are roadblocks, which there should not be, move Blake to a non-AD role for now if you are not going to fire him and decide later. That should have been done weeks ago. Interview and hire a new AD, allowing that person to bring in his or her own people to fill out the AD. In time, they will get rid of Blake's loyalists just like any other organization that has a leadership change. Allow that AD to learn about the school, culture, problems, etc. over the next couple of months and then give that person autonomy to make a decision and run the department. Why is this such a difficult concept for people on the board, who themselves have been successful, to understand?
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Blake has political support within the Athletic Department and the University Administration, I suspect.

We as Fans want James cashiered for Cause because it Didn't Work Out and we want it Done Yesterday so the Program can move on.

This won't happen because Blake has supporters on the Board and in the Administration who were either advocates or silent partners to the original deal that made Diaz coach after Richt left all that money on the Table.

Everyone has to come out of this looking halfway decent.
 
Alex Jones said:
There’s people who always bring his name up every time the jobs open. They don’t know many names and they know he’s cheap lol. So he’s perfect!!! Lol.

I never pay attention to that noise.
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It’s literally the name those dudes I alluded to would throw out there. They don’t know a **** thing, but they think think they do since they donate a ton and are friendly with BOTs.
 
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Alex Jones said:
Ive always said it’ll be tough , Miami will have to show him they have some kind of infrastructure or plan for the program going forward. They have to show coaches they’re serious. Even with that It’s not a given. But it’s a start and would get his interest and other serious candidates.
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Agree I definitely think it's a tipping point. We have to recruit coaches in the same way we would recruit a player. This is what a real administration would do their backs are against the wall they have to do something
 
This was always political. Undoing the damage to the Athletic Deparment will be supremely political. Manny's father is vice-chair of the state Democratic Party. You don't think Manny isn't going to have a soft landing set up for him somewhere?
 
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jp2344 said:
@OriginalCanesCanesCanes is correct. This message may get lost in the shuffle of endless pages but here goes nothing.

First. OP saying moves being made behind BJ’s back is incorrect, unless you consider the usual informal back room channels being worked as “moves” which I don’t. The animosity and strife between the administration at the university, athletic, and external support levels is sky high. EVERYONE is aware of it and some have had the testicular fortitude to make it known face to face, I can firsthand assure you of that.

Second. I can tell you the foundation of the sales job Blake pulled when it comes to snatching Manny. The sales job went beyond just the closed doors of the prez and members of the board.

First let me say I don’t blame Manny. He was handed the keys to a super car which needed some work but by all accounts was on the mend. It’s not his fault he’s over his head. We’d all take the job as well. The understanding and promise of what was relayed by BJ and others who supported and facilitated the hire was contingent on conditions, first and foremost, the hiring and advising of someone who would walk Manny along in the journey of running the program. Performance will get both Manny and BJ canned yes. However, the failure to follow through with what was just mentioned will ultimately be the downfall. The failure to follow through in that guarantee provided by both of them has rubbed the university admin very wrong, including JF. Especially considering that Manny and BJ didn’t follow through with the promise out of fear of being exposed for who they are, i.e. being way over their heads. Ed was brought in post that promise not being honored as window dressing to cover this. My respect for Ed is beyond words. Again I will say firsthand he was not who those who received that promise had in mind. I’m not saying he’s done nothing, far from it. But the questions being raised on here of “where’s Ed”? “What’s Ed’s role” are completely a product of the window dressing of the position.

Third. I’ve heard varying opinions on JF’s involvement in the athletic department. Those who say he has no concern over the athletic department are both right and wrong. JF’s primary concern is not athletics. I’d argue that’s a good thing so long as the athletic admin knows what they are doing which we know is not the case. My understanding, at least what has been relayed by him, is he has at least listened to the trusted voices who have pressed a need for change. HE DOES want athletics to be successful although that’s not at the top of his list. It has been presented to him that you can have it both ways, but that it can’t be the case with someone like BJ. The massive hurdle now is the external source used to bring in the next AD. Again I will reiterate this conversation is not an unknown to BJ. I referenced him being canned earlier. The canning will not be via formal termination. The canning will be via him moving to another program under a “mutual understanding”. I can tell you BJ puts out the image of a mute, submissive little man. Don’t let that image fool you as he’s as stubborn and immovable as a boulder who’s too inept to realize he belongs anywhere but an athletics department. He’s been a yes man to those who matter in the admin to the point where they will take care of him to secure his ouster.

I understand the doom and gloom around the athletics department as a whole. But get this straight. Manny was not a lazy hire. Manny was a hire made under false pretenses by an absolute buffoon of an AD. The GD hire on my side of the athletic sphere was, and yes it was driven by connections and $. But make no mistake from a resume standpoint GD is light years ahead of Manny whether it ends up working or not.

The old saying of “you as a leader will be judged by who you delegate your authority to” is the primary issue at Miami and it starts from the prez all the way down to Manny who does not have the ability or willingness to place strong and knowledgeable generals around him. As much as I wish JF was not commanding this ship understand HE IS open to and moving toward a change at AD, at least that’s what he’s insinuated. The question now is the timing of such a move.

I’m going to be very careful with how I word this. Yes there has been informal contact with a few who are potential replacements for Manny. The commonality amongst all the temperatures of those contacted is the mess that is the athletic admin. And yes that is part of and most likely the most compelling argument for change pushed to JF and others. Yes it’s taken too long and we don’t like the path taken but based on what I know I will tell you changes are coming beyond just Manny.

Last but not least. I’m not a betting man but I will give my thoughts on who will be our next coach. My thoughts are based again not on feeling but instead what I’ve been told. Some I hope I’m wrong with but reality is reality. Unless his current trajectory of success changes for the worse it will be a very hard pull to lure MC, at least for now. I keep hearing $ as the reason. $ IS NOT the reason as contrary to belief it will be there if and when need be. The thought that MC is destined to land here because of outside variables is foolish. He’s a football guy through and through and he has a very very good thing going at Oregon which treats their athletics like gold. Yes there is intrigue on his part but intrigue will not alone make it happen. Our reputation as a **** show athletic department is not lost on MC and others who have been contacted. Unless you see wholesale changes prior to or right at the end of the season there will not be a chance to get him, even if that chance is slim to begin with.

Obviously Corch O has been mentioned as well. To my understanding there is a 0% chance this happens. The admin is not willing to take on anyone with any sort of past, whether directly involved or not, to lead the football team. I can tell you a former WVU coach has been informally contacted by ultimately someone with no dog in the fight other than being a very large financial donor. Not going to happen either based on some of the issues with past players and reputation. This is one area will JF has ZERO wiggle room for exception.

I do not believe we have any chance with any of the better known group of 5 coaches either. Quite frankly I think this is a good thing based on the AG experiment and some other experiences around football. WE ARE NOT viewed as a premier job and unfortunately it looks as if there will be some big shake ups at premier schools with a much better situation than we have now.

The biggest open door for me based on talk and upside is Chud. The biggest obstacle with him was his experience with the dysfunction in Cleveland and the **** show that is our situation. That being said HE IS there for the taking should we move fast enough. Yes there has been informal contact by many within the program. Again, not by decision makers but instead by influencers. Unlike some his sole goal is not the pro game. We’d be making a massive mistake if we did not lock him down. He checks every single box whether it be the “Miami guy” need or most importantly in my mind a track record of success who hasn’t burned any legitimate bridges by his doing along the way. Being in his early 50’s he’s the perfect combination of success and experience combined with the wiggle room of having another 10 or so years left to be at the top of his game.

Above all I’m holding out hope some of it all of what I’ve heard will happen. My family’s track record with Miami athletics goes back to the 40’s with the many of those years having someone occupying a spot on one team or another. Everything I’ve provided is not based on speculation but instead conversations I’ve had first hand with people I trust. Go Canes and someone please hit the fast forward button in our lives right now.
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And I think I told @nycane recently I’ve heard someone wants Jeff Hafley and was the ‘favorite’ of a prominent member of a big hitter on the BOT… at least I thought it was Hafley because they kept alluding to Boston College… until I just realized Chud is at Boston College right now lmao.

Won’t follow the program under Chud. Just won’t do it
 
wspcane said:
This is what makes no sense to me. Why in the **** is Blake still AD if people realize that any form of logic would dictate they need to fire him, get his replacement, and then let that replacement pick the next coach. No AD worth a salt is coming here with a brand new coach they did not choose and then have their career tied to that guy. None of these people would run their businesses like this, so I just do not understand how they allow it to happen here. It is common business sense.

This is not the Manhattan Project. If there are roadblocks, which there should not be, move Blake to a non-AD role for now if you are not going to fire him and decide later. That should have been done weeks ago. Interview and hire a new AD, allowing that person to bring in his or her own people to fill out the AD. In time, they will get rid of Blake's loyalists just like any other organization that has a leadership change. Allow that AD to learn about the school, culture, problems, etc. over the next couple of months and then give that person autonomy to make a decision and run the department. Why is this such a difficult concept for people on the board, who themselves have been successful, to understand?
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Yep, it's *** backwards.

Best case scenario in that world:

"Hello new AD, here's a pre-approved list of HC candidates for you".

Worst case:

"Yeah don't worry, we've hired the HC of the biggest sports programme you're going to oversee without consulting you. Good luck with the rest of the job".

Nobody worth their salt is going to accept that job.
 
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MikeCanes said:
Chud isn’t happening. I have no inside info, but just because some old ***** at The Riv brought up his name, doesn’t mean anyone involved in the hiring process has even thought about him in connection with the job.
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If that is how you interpreted that strong, detailed account of what's going on, you are sorely misinformed.
 
MikeCanes said:
It’s literally the name those dudes I alluded to would throw out there. They don’t know a **** thing, but they think think they do since they donate a ton and are friendly with BOTs.
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Is that because they are so successful that they don't have time to post on CIS?
 
section9 said:
Blake has political support within the Athletic Department and the University Administration, I suspect.

We as Fans want James cashiered for Cause because it Didn't Work Out and we want it Done Yesterday so the Program can move on.

This won't happen because Blake has supporters on the Board and in the Administration who were either advocates or silent partners to the original deal that made Diaz coach after Richt left all that money on the Table.

Everyone has to come out of this looking halfway decent.
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That is exactly why I said move him out of AD into another role. I don't want that and think it would be absurd, but they need to stop pushing this off. That aside, like everything in life you can't appease everyone. This at least comes close and lets things start moving. And it is in line with what OP said.
 
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