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Mork would have kicked Ed Reed off the team

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plantcity3 said:
Nate Webster, all the Blades, Ed, Jerome Brown, Irvin, Santana, and Sapp would have all been dismissed by richt.
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In today’s world they would’ve been dismiss by a lot of teams.
We live in a world of extremes and in a place where it’s is easy to voice an opinion and the herd follows. A world where very few things go unnoticed and then blown completely out of proportion on social media.
15 years ago we don’t t find out about Zach smith.
The xtremes under this circumstance is to say the coach didn’t tolerate or help the player at all and was unwilling to change.
The other is that the player was such a fugg up but the staff kept bending over 3 ways backwards and the kid still quit.
The truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
The truth will eventually come out and we wil know that both sides were probably at fault.
To say we never should’ve recruited him is shortsighted. Many kids get a new beginning and change. How many kids have come through Greentree from just as bad of a background and turned their lives around and took advantage of the opportunity.
 
Ed Reed earned the right to voice his opinion. He was a leader on and off the field, at Miami and Baltimore.
 
Astcloud11 said:
Y'all pulling out some embarrassing comparisons to push this agenda.

Not only was this dude Ed Reed a grown *** man, but he was also a joint leader of the **** defense and the whole team along side Ray Lewis. Ed Reed literally stepped into the Ravens organization as a rookie and started year 1 and was a stud since.
By the time Harbaugh got hired to coach the ravens this man had already made the Pro Bowl 4 times. Ed Reed was **** near the defensive back coach. Need I also mention the man was almost 30 years old? I could go on and on but the bottom line is that Reed was a stalemate who garnered respect across the whole organization from top to bottom. He literally earned the right to tell the coaches "That wont work boss". He also never fought with his position coach. He didn't quit on the team or showed poor effort/pouting in practice or games. The man TOLD Harbaugh he disagreed, but followed his orders and gave full effort while doing it. Plus the fact, that this was Harbaugh's first and only tenure as a head coach, after being a **** career special teams coach. If he took a breath and considered for a second about removing or replacing Ed Reed, the Ravens front office (or ****, Ray Lewis plus the whole defense) would've told Harbaugh to go fvk himself and work it out with Reed.

But y'all want to compare that to Jeff Thomas who was a got **** high school kid who already quit on his high school multiple times, committed to Mark Richt, who had been a HC for 15+ years already, along with a successful WR coach who had been coaching for multiple years. He came into THEIR situation as an 18 year old kid who has to prove that he's worth playing over the guys in front of him. Showed that he's a very talented but immature player and literally quit the team after 1 **** year after a relatively successful year, but was fondled into coming back. Very next year he argues and fights with his established position coach and quits on the team again with 2 games left into the season.

Comparing a 28 year old All-Pro safety and captain to an 18 year old All-Conference underclassman who quit on his team multiple times.
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Great read, I have been saying this for 2 days. They been giving Thomas a pass and acting like hes Jerry rice. Go to work late a couple of times and then argue with your boss in front of co workers being disrespectful, let us know what happens.
 
pimpcane1 said:
Dude you are totally missing the point. Reed was ALWAYS an emotional player, even when he was at UM (so is Thomas). Attitude (ie. the way one feels about something) don't change much over the years bc they are conditioned responses. One may change their actions to their emotions over the years through training but the emotions behind the actions rarely change.

As the saying goes "a tiger doesn't change his strips". And Ed (much like Thomas) was always a Tiger. Yes you can train a tiger and make him do tricks but at some point he may maul you.

Moreover, these are the UNTOLD stories of Ed Reed. If you think Reed didn't cuss out or have verbal conflict with his coaches through out his football career, even while at UM, I have beach front property to sell you in Kansas. Most good coaches keep these things in house and know how to manage personalities. Mork obviously does not know how to manage certain personalities.
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Your talking about Ed Reed , The hardest and one of the true great canes compared to an 18 year old malcontent who showed up late for practices, lollygagged through practices and disrespected a coach in front of teammates. No coach , none would put up with that ****. Remember last year in the national championship game that linebacker disrespected a coach on the sidelines, 2 weeks later Saban kicked him off the team.
 
mcanerich said:
I can see both sides to this issue. Yes it could be put on the Coach for recruitment of a troubled High School kid , but from Miami we would miss out on a lot of great football players. Probably they should have put someone with him , but maybe they did. We gave him a chance to grow up. But doesn’t the young man take a lot of the responsibility here. He challenged authorities all the time he was here. In class and on the field. They did try to heal him by keeping him here a second year hoping he would grow up and learn how to respect his peers. Lastly he quit on his teammates. With just two games left he left them high and dry. I don’t care how you feel or hate our Coach but really , without you thinking I’m supporting him, it’s on the kid. He quit... Maybe we get lucky and Coach will too...
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@macanerich....same macanerich from Old Grassy??
 
pimpcane1 said:
Dude you are totally missing the point. Reed was ALWAYS an emotional player, even when he was at UM (so is Thomas). Attitude (ie. the way one feels about something) don't change much over the years bc they are conditioned responses. One may change their actions to their emotions over the years through training but the emotions behind the actions rarely change.

As the saying goes "a tiger doesn't change his strips". And Ed (much like Thomas) was always a Tiger. Yes you can train a tiger and make him do tricks but at some point he may maul you.

Moreover, these are the UNTOLD stories of Ed Reed. If you think Reed didn't cuss out or have verbal conflict with his coaches through out his football career, even while at UM, I have beach front property to sell you in Kansas. Most good coaches keep these things in house and know how to manage personalities. Mork obviously does not know how to manage certain personalities.
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Emotional is an understatement....
And as far as Pouting...Lol...if Ed looked like he was Pouting....There was a reason.....SeanTay was just as emotional....
 
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One is a quitter and one is the ultimate competitor.

The comparison is retarded.

Delete your account OP
 
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Astcloud11 said:
Y'all pulling out some embarrassing comparisons to push this agenda.

Not only was this dude Ed Reed a grown *** man, but he was also a joint leader of the **** defense and the whole team along side Ray Lewis. Ed Reed literally stepped into the Ravens organization as a rookie and started year 1 and was a stud since.
By the time Harbaugh got hired to coach the ravens this man had already made the Pro Bowl 4 times. Ed Reed was **** near the defensive back coach. Need I also mention the man was almost 30 years old? I could go on and on but the bottom line is that Reed was a stalemate who garnered respect across the whole organization from top to bottom. He literally earned the right to tell the coaches "That wont work boss". He also never fought with his position coach. He didn't quit on the team or showed poor effort/pouting in practice or games. The man TOLD Harbaugh he disagreed, but followed his orders and gave full effort while doing it. Plus the fact, that this was Harbaugh's first and only tenure as a head coach, after being a **** career special teams coach. If he took a breath and considered for a second about removing or replacing Ed Reed, the Ravens front office (or ****, Ray Lewis plus the whole defense) would've told Harbaugh to go fvk himself and work it out with Reed.

But y'all want to compare that to Jeff Thomas who was a got **** high school kid who already quit on his high school multiple times, committed to Mark Richt, who had been a HC for 15+ years already, along with a successful WR coach who had been coaching for multiple years. He came into THEIR situation as an 18 year old kid who has to prove that he's worth playing over the guys in front of him. Showed that he's a very talented but immature player and literally quit the team after 1 **** year after a relatively successful year, but was fondled into coming back. Very next year he argues and fights with his established position coach and quits on the team again with 2 games left into the season.

Comparing a 28 year old All-Pro safety and captain to an 18 year old All-Conference underclassman who quit on his team multiple times.
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Stop it!!! You know better than this. These facts don't fit the narrative here, man, so wtf are you doing posting them?!?
 
pimpcane1 said:
Dude you are totally missing the point. Reed was ALWAYS an emotional player, even when he was at UM (so is Thomas). Attitude (ie. the way one feels about something) don't change much over the years bc they are conditioned responses. One may change their actions to their emotions over the years through training but the emotions behind the actions rarely change.

As the saying goes "a tiger doesn't change his strips". And Ed (much like Thomas) was always a Tiger. Yes you can train a tiger and make him do tricks but at some point he may maul you.

Moreover, these are the UNTOLD stories of Ed Reed. If you think Reed didn't cuss out or have verbal conflict with his coaches through out his football career, even while at UM, I have beach front property to sell you in Kansas. Most good coaches keep these things in house and know how to manage personalities. Mork obviously does not know how to manage certain personalities.
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You're comparing dumb *** jeff thomas to ed reed?!? Wow. One was one of the greatest lockerrom leaders in the history of the sport. The other has been a cancer in every lockerrom he has been part of. But they're both similar, right? Just emotional guys!

Jesus christ, man. SMH
 
Twhizman said:
Common Mann everyone who watches football knows reed earned his right to give his opinion.everyone gets mad at one time or another and when you are you don't want to be bothered.but make no mistake reed never quit in fact if you've read about our great 2001 team in 98 reed and several other players came together and they were going to what it took to win
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Yes I'm sure Ed said to himself one day "I made some pro bowls and won defensive player of the year, I can now cuss out my coaches bc I have earned the right."
 
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