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Hstokes1447 said:
Finally have playable depth (not just numbers) at every position except safety, DT could be better, but position flexibility is going to help here. The lack of depth has played a major role in Miami running out of gas at the end of seasons, hopefully we finally see a team that has enough quality depth to go distance (pause).
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We could have playable depth at safety if Fitzgerald proves he can atleast grab someone’s ankles
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I listened to the Cover 3 ACC Win totals show yesterday, and yes of course I'm sure everyone will say this is irrelevant because Bud Elliott is a hater and hates us and thinks we're going 0-12 blah blah blah....but he had a very good point when going over his concerns for the team.

He said he speaks to multiple people at Miami, and when he asks about WR, almost all of them give him a different answer. His analogy was, when you don't have one "alpha", sometimes, you have 2019 LSU, where you have multiple absolute dudes. But that is VERY much the outlier. Normally, you have a bunch of guys that are just OK, so when you ask "sources" who's the guy, you're going to get multiple answers because nobody is jumping off the page. So that's what concerns him, is we don't have time to find our "alpha", we play ND and UiF in the first month of the season. So, do we have a group that's so good, nobody is really standing out because they're all ballers? Or do we have a somewhat average group and there isn't really anyone standing out because none of them are good enough to warrant that kind of attention?

Interesting perspective and something obviously we'll find out rather quickly. But I do believe it's concerning. I don't think this is going to be 2022 by any stretch of the imagination...even if we don't have 1 or 2 receivers really step up to become a total go-to kid, the QB is good, the line is good, the backs are very good, the offense will be good. Just how good can it be if you don't have kids you can count on in the passing game down after down? We all pretty much agree we're very likely not going to have the #1 offense in the country, and that's fine. You don't have to be #1 to win the ACC, if your defense and special teams are competent. But if we don't really have any elite receivers, at least not early on, does the offense drop enough to where we struggle to beat ND and UiF?

FWIW, 3 of the guys had us at 9-3, and Fornelli said 10-2.
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I listen to cover 3 in season and before. Starting at win totals time. So I’ve been listening lately when I’m caught up on CIS pod. Those guys had good points but really their main concern(and mine) is the fact that we end the season with 7 straight conference games and two in the cold at the end of the year. Can you imagine us navigating that schedule without issue? Idk.

But we will be stout on the lines. And should be able to defend better this year. They had us losing to the domers for sure and maybe beating ufag
 
I'm cautiously optimistic hearing our WRs are struggling to separate from the DBs. That's what you want to hear in early camp, especially when pads come on. I'm not "down" on the WRs nor "up" on the DBs. We know we upleveled that DB room dramatically, and the WRs are only now running routes under Dawson's and Beard's scrutiny with a new QB. But two weeks from now, we want to start hearing about spectacular catches in blanketed coverage.
 
305407cane said:
I listen to cover 3 in season and before. Starting at win totals time. So I’ve been listening lately when I’m caught up on CIS pod. Those guys had good points but really their main concern(and mine) is the fact that we end the season with 7 straight conference games and two in the cold at the end of the year. Can you imagine us navigating that schedule without issue? Idk.

But we will be stout on the lines. And should be able to defend better this year. They had us losing to the domers for sure and maybe beating ufag
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I will never sharpie a win for a Miami team in the cold, ever. And I will never sharpie in a win for the Miami Hurricanes against a middling ACC team.

HOWEVER....I really think VT is going to stink this year. Sure, if it's 17 degrees, I'll be scared ****less. But I really, really think that's going to be a very average football team, or worse. I'm not convinced at all that Pry even makes it to that game.

Pitt, yeah, for sure. They'll be tough, they always are. And prior history has zero bearing on this season, but we have handled Pitt well for a long time. We've won our last 2 games up there, in 2021 and 2019.

I do wish we had a bye sometime in late October or early November like everyone else. But I really don't think the schedule is that bad. We have 8 home games...when's the last time that happened? Ever? We don't leave the state until November 1. 6 of the first 7 games are home. IMO Louisville is the best ACC team we play, that game is at home, and we have 13 days to get ready for it. We all point to the SMU game, which will likely be tough, but that will be SMU's 5th straight Saturday with a game. Not like they're going to be well rested, the 2 they play before us are both on the road. So they have 5 straight games, the 3rd and 4th are back to back road trips, then we come calling.

The Pitt game, again my concerns above, but they play Notre Dame and GT in the 2 weeks before us. GT being on the road. Those are 2 physical, hard-nosed teams who are likely to handle Pitt physically. Not like they have a bye before we come to town.

I think this team is set up to play well in the cold. It's a big, physical offensive line, and really good defensive line.
 
DMoney said:
I feel much better there than last year. Not as bullish as CB (where I think we can be as good as anybody in the nation), but improved. Poyser and Thomas are experienced guys who look the part physically. Dylan Day and Markeith Williams are solid on the second-team and pushing.
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Last year pre season? Or just in hindsight
 
Jassid82 said:
Maybe I’m answering my own question..but why do I hear zero buzz about the Cincinnati transfer at WR? (Johnson) CIS poll had him penciled in as the slot starter and I forgot he was even on the team. I never hear any news about him good or bad..
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Because the staff doesn't want any buzz out about him.

Every player you hear about in camps has been curated & pre-approved.

When you hear "buzz", about a player, it's because they want you to hear about him.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I listened to the Cover 3 ACC Win totals show yesterday, and yes of course I'm sure everyone will say this is irrelevant because Bud Elliott is a hater and hates us and thinks we're going 0-12 blah blah blah....but he had a very good point when going over his concerns for the team.

He said he speaks to multiple people at Miami, and when he asks about WR, almost all of them give him a different answer. His analogy was, when you don't have one "alpha", sometimes, you have 2019 LSU, where you have multiple absolute dudes. But that is VERY much the outlier. Normally, you have a bunch of guys that are just OK, so when you ask "sources" who's the guy, you're going to get multiple answers because nobody is jumping off the page. So that's what concerns him, is we don't have time to find our "alpha", we play ND and UiF in the first month of the season. So, do we have a group that's so good, nobody is really standing out because they're all ballers? Or do we have a somewhat average group and there isn't really anyone standing out because none of them are good enough to warrant that kind of attention?

Interesting perspective and something obviously we'll find out rather quickly. But I do believe it's concerning. I don't think this is going to be 2022 by any stretch of the imagination...even if we don't have 1 or 2 receivers really step up to become a total go-to kid, the QB is good, the line is good, the backs are very good, the offense will be good. Just how good can it be if you don't have kids you can count on in the passing game down after down? We all pretty much agree we're very likely not going to have the #1 offense in the country, and that's fine. You don't have to be #1 to win the ACC, if your defense and special teams are competent. But if we don't really have any elite receivers, at least not early on, does the offense drop enough to where we struggle to beat ND and UiF?

FWIW, 3 of the guys had us at 9-3, and Fornelli said 10-2.
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I feel like this has been everyone’s concern though. And by everyone, I mean Miami, the media, the coaches. This isn’t really new information, and I’m not discounting it just because it’s from Bud…in fact, I’m not discounting it at all. We all know that we lost half a dozen receivers last year and are replacing with younger guys and transfers. It’s a huge unknown and been talked about to death.
 
TooColdToHold said:
Last year it was JoJo and Ny Carr and neither one did anything when the season started.
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Exactly. Total nonsense. Now, if you want to say the folks who view practice are journalists and writers and don't know ball, that's one thing. But they're not being told who they can and can't talk about, they watch drills, take notes, and report what they seen. Obviously they have off the record discussions with staff members who can skew things, but the practice reports are what they are. The staff doesn't have holograms out there making fake plays or hiding kids behind walls.
 
caneingville said:
I feel like this has been everyone’s concern though. And by everyone, I mean Miami, the media, the coaches. This isn’t really new information, and I’m not discounting it just because it’s from Bud…in fact, I’m not discounting it at all. We all know that we lost half a dozen receivers last year and are replacing with younger guys and transfers. It’s a huge unknown and been talked about to death.
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Very true, I think just his point was more, nobody is separating yet. Obviously it's early, but I'm sure some/most of this is from the summer anyway. In a perfect world, the narrative would be, "Miami lost their top 6 pass-catchers, but the room can pick up the slack because Player X looks like a budding superstar, and Player Y should be able to replicate what they lost in (blank)"

His point was, when he asks, one guy says Trader looks good, the next guy says Toney looks good, the next guy, etc.

Yeah, there's a chance all these kids are elite and nobody is pulling away because they're all so good. But that's certainly not a heavy favorite. Most likely, it's because they're all pretty much the same and nobody is standing out as elite.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I listened to the Cover 3 ACC Win totals show yesterday, and yes of course I'm sure everyone will say this is irrelevant because Bud Elliott is a hater and hates us and thinks we're going 0-12 blah blah blah....but he had a very good point when going over his concerns for the team.

He said he speaks to multiple people at Miami, and when he asks about WR, almost all of them give him a different answer. His analogy was, when you don't have one "alpha", sometimes, you have 2019 LSU, where you have multiple absolute dudes. But that is VERY much the outlier. Normally, you have a bunch of guys that are just OK, so when you ask "sources" who's the guy, you're going to get multiple answers because nobody is jumping off the page. So that's what concerns him, is we don't have time to find our "alpha", we play ND and UiF in the first month of the season. So, do we have a group that's so good, nobody is really standing out because they're all ballers? Or do we have a somewhat average group and there isn't really anyone standing out because none of them are good enough to warrant that kind of attention?

Interesting perspective and something obviously we'll find out rather quickly. But I do believe it's concerning. I don't think this is going to be 2022 by any stretch of the imagination...even if we don't have 1 or 2 receivers really step up to become a total go-to kid, the QB is good, the line is good, the backs are very good, the offense will be good. Just how good can it be if you don't have kids you can count on in the passing game down after down? We all pretty much agree we're very likely not going to have the #1 offense in the country, and that's fine. You don't have to be #1 to win the ACC, if your defense and special teams are competent. But if we don't really have any elite receivers, at least not early on, does the offense drop enough to where we struggle to beat ND and UiF?

FWIW, 3 of the guys had us at 9-3, and Fornelli said 10-2.
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Surprised at a logical take from Bud. Shame they let Horton walk
 
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