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Monday media 9/27

Frenk was highly influential in the ACC playing a full 10-game season last year. No question.

Still, his lack of involvment in reversing the decline of UM football, baseball, and basketball speaks for itself.
 
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Rellyrell said:
1. The attrition that happened at Miami under Richt was mostly Offensive players. Matter of fact, I can’t recall any defensive players that have transferred, so that’s not even a remote, viable option of an excuse.

2. What was the “big picture” Diaz was saying? B/c if it’s recruiting, well, we’ve out recruited App St by a country mile & out recruited MSU by a city mile, so why bring that up? If it’s facilities, well that’s been improved and even schools w/ nicer facilities than Bama (here’s to you Northwestern) aren’t recruiting on our level. Matter of fact, how bout u take a look at this list & tell me who’s out recruiting us from this: https://247sports.com/LongFormArtic...U-college-facilities-rankings-2019-134061740/

3. The only thing that matters is what’s happening on the field, and that 4 page letter (in my Aaliyah’s voice) was full of fluff & no substance. Game day called out the AD in general, b/c they are not aligned & that’s no secret. ****, even BOT members aren’t aligned, but being that Diaz was compelled to do this let’s all of us know, the noise is deafening.
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You get a statement like this from the sacrificial lamb because they are uncomfortable. They are squirming & they know they are officially on the hot seat as the Grimm Reaper, like @RVACane, is about to chop their heads off if they lose the next 2-4 games in a row. There is blood in the water to use a last cliche.
 
305to954 said:
I’d say randy Shannon tried that…but I think that’s a interesting point your making. But I’ll say this and if might come off as soft, but the team has/does play hard under his direction Imo. Even the 2019 debacle. So idk if it’s a respect thing…you could blatantly see disrespect towards Dno under Golden. U saw guys literally Quit. Under Shannon you saw guys just not playing..we haven’t quite reached that point under Diaz yet Imo. Too me that means they believe in the program..now rather or not that’s blind belief? Who knows…side question: does anyone know who the Alabama AD is? Does anyone know Clemsons? Or OSU?..or do those programs operate at a self sufficient level? If you ask me Dabo, Saban **** even Day answer to nobody up top. The only time they probably speak to them is if there’s a problem..and tbh that’s the way it should be. If the AD is noticeable or heard from that means someone’s about to get fired..hence USC LOL
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Im not sure I follow the entirety of your post but I'll respond with a few related thoughts.

1). Randy initially garnered that respect because he was both a former player and a 305 guy. He eventually lost that respect because everyone quickly realized he was living his own personal Peter Principle.

2) Another key component to the 'cult of personality' as it relates to coaching is how your assistants (and the marketplace) perceive a head coach. We all joke about the times when Mark Whipple would give Randy dirty looks during games, but Whip was a head coach that won an FCS national title. Contrast that with the statements from Brett Romberg in The U Part 2 where he talked about how the assistant coaches all feared Butch Davis. You can tell from Romberg's statements that it clearly had an effect on the players as well. When your position coach is constantly trying to be on-point to impress his boss that clearly shows those players that they need to be on-point as well.

3). The reason AD's at the schools you mention are unknown entities is because they've hired top flight coaches command that level of respect. UM wont even interview guys like that.
 
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SFbayCane said:
Im not sure I follow the entirety of your post but I'll respond with a few related thoughts.

1). Randy initially garnered that respect because he was both a former player and a 305 guy. He eventually lost that respect because everyone quickly realized he was living his own personal Peter Principle.

2) Another key component to the 'cult of personality' as it relates to coaching is how your assistants (and the marketplace) perceives a head coach. We all joke about the times when Mark Whipple would give Randy dirty looks during games, but Whip was a head coach that won an FCS national title. Contrast that with the statements from Brett Romberg in The U Part 2 where he talked about how the assistant coaches all feared Butch Davis. You can tell from Romberg's statements that it clearly had an effect on the players as well. When your position coach is constantly trying to be on-point to impress his boss that clearly shows those players that they need to be on-point as well.

3). The reason AD's at the schools you mention are unknown entities is because they've hired top flight coaches command that level of respect. UM wont even interview guys like that.
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With the issues we had under Randy I think he was dealt a tough hand and tried to rule with a iron fist early..didn’t seem to end well

I think we don’t hear about ADs unless something is going wrong in the program or the HC is about to get Canned. For instance, Miami fan base the last 15 years. I also don’t think ADs are nor should have much say in what goes on with a Football programs operation. Unless there’s something the HC needs…

as to your cult personality thing..that **** only exist in college towns. Like pedo state Tuscaloosa etc . Miami is very unique. It’s a pro city first and foremost..but I understand the gist of what your saying. I’m not sure that can exist in Miami..but a alpha Personality can be what is needed..and NOBODY on this site truly knows if manny is that or not..but since we are 2-2 he’s 100% a beta personality rn…but there are examples of all time coaches who wouldn’t exactly fit that mold I think your describing
 
305to954 said:
With the issues we had under Randy I think he was dealt a tough hand and tried to rule with a iron fist early..didn’t seem to end well

I think we don’t hear about ADs unless something is going wrong in the program or the HC is about to get Canned. For instance, Miami fan base the last 15 years. I also don’t think ADs are nor should have much say in what goes on with a Football programs operation. Unless there’s something the HC needs…

as to your cult personality thing..that **** only exist in college towns. Like pedo state Tuscaloosa etc . Miami is very unique. It’s a pro city first and foremost..but I understand the gist of what your saying. I’m not sure that can exist in Miami..but a alpha Personality can be what is needed..and NOBODY on this site truly knows if manny is that or not..but since we are 2-2 he’s 100% a beta personality rn…but there are examples of all time coaches who wouldn’t exactly fit that mold I think your describing
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I do not share your opinion about the cult of personality only existing in small college towns. I think its just harder to find that type of guy in a large market. Pete Carroll at USC. Jimmy Johnson at UM. I would suggest its more critical to have that type of guy in a market like south Florida. That was part of Coker's problem IMO.


Good discussion!
 
SFbayCane said:
I do not share your opinion about the cult of personality only existing in small college towns. I think its just harder to find that type of guy in a large market. Pete Carroll at USC. Jimmy Johnson at UM. I would suggest its more critical to have that type of guy in a market like south Florida. That was part of Coker's problem IMO.


Good discussion!
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Good discussion. If Jimmy left for the pros. Pete was dismissed unofficially at USC. USC and Miami are pretty similar aside from usc having by far a bigger student/alum population..but neither has really had that “cult” like leader Imo
 
305to954 said:
Good discussion. If Jimmy left for the pros. Pete was dismissed unofficially at USC. USC and Miami are pretty similar aside from usc having by far a bigger student/alum population..but neither has really had that “cult” like leader Imo
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Keep in mind my point about cult of personality relates more to inside the program. The players and assistant coaches, etc. Again, go back to Brett Romberg's comments in The U part two documentary about Butch Davis and his assistant coaches.
 
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SFbayCane said:
Keep in mind my point about cult of personality relates more to inside the program. The players and assistant coaches, etc. Again, go back to Brett Romberg's comments in The U part two documentary about Butch Davis and his assistant coaches.
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True. And I agree that style does work and MIGHT be needed. But we’ve seen a more “player friendly” approach work also. **** I don’t wtf is needed from that standpoint. But if the writing on the wall comes to reality with manny..whoever the next guy is will need time
 
SFbayCane said:
Im not sure I follow the entirety of your post but I'll respond with a few related thoughts.

1). Randy initially garnered that respect because he was both a former player and a 305 guy. He eventually lost that respect because everyone quickly realized he was living his own personal Peter Principle.

2) Another key component to the 'cult of personality' as it relates to coaching is how your assistants (and the marketplace) perceive a head coach. We all joke about the times when Mark Whipple would give Randy dirty looks during games, but Whip was a head coach that won an FCS national title. Contrast that with the statements from Brett Romberg in The U Part 2 where he talked about how the assistant coaches all feared Butch Davis. You can tell from Romberg's statements that it clearly had an effect on the players as well. When your position coach is constantly trying to be on-point to impress his boss that clearly shows those players that they need to be on-point as well.

3). The reason AD's at the schools you mention are unknown entities is because they've hired top flight coaches command that level of respect. UM wont even interview guys like that.
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Oklahoma Joe Castiglione, is hardly an unknown, he is one of the best in the business...**** near a Rockstar AD

Dan Radakovich, Clemson Dan Radakovich is the athletics director at Clemson University. Previously, he was the Athletics Director at the Georgia Institute of Technology, a position he held from February 22, 2006 to October 29, 2012. He was previously the Senior Associate Director of Athletics at Louisiana State University...again,,hardly an unknown

* Gene Smith:
A native of Cleveland, Ohio, Smith played defensive end for four years at Notre Dame[1] including the 1973 Notre Dame Fighting Irish football team that won the AP National Championship. He graduated from Notre Dame in 1977, becoming the first member of his family to graduate from college. That year, he became an assistant coach of the Fighting Irish football team, which would go on to win the Undisputed National Championship

Do you see the connections?

We have a used peanut salesman from Maine as our AD and a Lispy ***aloon as our HC with no HC experience and professes to be Cuban but don't speak Spanish...thats the difference
 
ADELPHI said:
What should we set the over/under on how many times Manny rehearsed reading this letter out loud in front of his dad? I can envision Papi pumping his first in the air exclaiming " Son, you really stuck that landing!"
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More times than he rehearsed a game plan for MSU!
 
**** Manny completely dropping the gameplanning of UVA in 2 days to go all out defense mode of the only two people in the nation that would hire him. That's my coach baby! That's how you allocate your time in game week!
 
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theibisrules said:
I know people on here dont like Tim Reynolds or Gary Ferman but they are handing the administration their a$$es on a platter.
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What have they been saying? I saw Reynolds posted Manny's letter with a snarky note about typos but haven't seen much else.
 
Poopscoop said:
I wonder how many people understand what this mamalook is really saying... He's literally blaming our fans and the media for acting this way, and saying our response to his coaching and team play is pushing away current players and potential recruits from wanting to be here... Heaven forbid he acknowledges his lack of coaching as an actual issue.
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I know one person who read it and was very hot in bothered. He changed his pants multiple times.
 
wspcane said:
What have they been saying? I saw Reynolds posted Manny's letter with a snarky note about typos but haven't seen much else.
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Dude it wasn't a letter. It was an oral articulate response that a bad reporter tried to transcribe. Nothing wrong with defending your bosses and your administration. And he's right. The negative cancer that surrounds his program is a huge problem and it does impact recruiting and fan support. I recognize that this website is more toxic than most, in fact it's bats*** psycho insane, But for whatever reason Miami fans are really negative and bad. I think there's a few obvious reasons for that - #1, many of the fans are not alums and have more of a pro sports mentality, #2, incredibly spoiled by the ridiculous success of the past, and #3, the belief, which is not implausible, that because of the rich recruiting base of South Florida that success is always just one coach away.

I really wish the negative fans would just go away and root for the dolphins. Let the team move to a 25,000 capacity on campus stadium.
 
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