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Mullen took over 2 years later and has only had 2 better years

his best 2014 lost 3 out of last 4
won 10 total, in a down division
best wins against 5 loss teams


why do you guys want this average coach?
 
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He's also in the sec and he's coach at miss st not Ole miss. That's like comparing coaching wake forest to unc.


It's most likely going to be richt and I have yet to read any article that mullen is at the top of our wish list.

We did offer him 5 years ago but offered him much less then he was making at the time.
 
He's also in the sec and he's coach at miss st not Ole miss. That's like comparing coaching wake forest to unc.


It's most likely going to be richt and I have yet to read any article that mullen is at the top of our wish list.

We did offer him 5 years ago but offered him much less then he was making at the time.

who cares he is in the sec, he is making a living finishing in 5th place in division
improved team win total 2 games in 7 years
he is average
 
People really under estimating how hard it is to recruit in that division.

again never beat a team with 10 wins
only finished better than 4th once, in 2014 when division was average and still lost 3 of 4 including getting waxed by g tech

why do we want an average coach that knows nothing about defense, isn't known for great staffs and isn't a proven recruiter
 
guy has a win percentage of 15 against ranked teams!

say all you want about him being undermathched but the sec has been down the last few years and he still has managed to lose to all the respectable teams and beat only the garbage ones

he will not outcoach anyone. Anyone who thinks this guy is better than Richt is smokin' some good stuff
 
guy has a win percentage of 15 against ranked teams!

say all you want about him being undermathched but the sec has been down the last few years and he still has managed to lose to all the respectable teams and beat only the garbage ones

he will not outcoach anyone. Anyone who thinks this guy is better than Richt is smokin' some good stuff

I cant believe 1 cane fan wants this guy much less what seems like 25% of the board with another 25% content with this average coach
He cant beat anyone not having a bad year
 
People really under estimating how hard it is to recruit in that division.

Didn't mean to upvote this. Mullen is average as ****. To all of those that are trying to explain away his record, please explain then what you all are seeing to indicate that he is indeed a good/great coach.
 
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Mississippi State hasn't had a coach with an over .500 winning percentage since the 1950s. Mullen is at .597.

MSU is 7th of 7 teams in the SEC West in recruiting grounds and he has them competing in that league.

This is why you can't look strictly look at records.
 
Mississippi State hasn't had a coach with an over .500 winning percentage since the 1950s. Mullen is at .597.

MSU is 7th of 7 teams in the SEC West in recruiting grounds and he has them competing in that league.

This is why you can't look strictly look at records.

competing they finish 5th every year
never beat 1 good team
that sums up average
if he didn't coach under Urban no one would want this guy
 
People really under estimating how hard it is to recruit in that division.

Didn't mean to upvote this. Mullen is average as ****. To all of those that are trying to explain away his record, please explain then what you all are seeing to indicate that he is indeed a good/great coach.

Nick Saban had a 58% winning percentage at Michigan State. Mullen has a 61% winning percentage at Mississippi State. If it was up to you stupid *** fans LSU would've never hired Saban. You need a little bit of vision to find the next big thing at coaching. Somebody needs to save this stupid *** fanbase that's stuck in 1999 from themselves.
 
People really under estimating how hard it is to recruit in that division.

Didn't mean to upvote this. Mullen is average as ****. To all of those that are trying to explain away his record, please explain then what you all are seeing to indicate that he is indeed a good/great coach.

Nick Saban had a 58% winning percentage at Michigan State. Mullen has a 61% winning percentage at Mississippi State. If it was up to you stupid *** fans LSU would've never hired Saban. You need a little bit of vision to find the next big thing at coaching. Somebody needs to save this stupid *** fanbase that's stuck in 1999 from themselves.


so what is it that makes mr 5th place good and worthy of getting the Miami job
haven't we already tried some unproven coaches?
 
Mississippi State hasn't had a coach with an over .500 winning percentage since the 1950s. Mullen is at .597.

MSU is 7th of 7 teams in the SEC West in recruiting grounds and he has them competing in that league.

This is why you can't look strictly look at records.

competing they finish 5th every year
never beat 1 good team
that sums up average
if he didn't coach under Urban no one would want this guy

Again you have no context of the situation so I won't even attempt to engage with you.
 
Mississippi State hasn't had a coach with an over .500 winning percentage since the 1950s. Mullen is at .597.

MSU is 7th of 7 teams in the SEC West in recruiting grounds and he has them competing in that league.

This is why you can't look strictly look at records.

Agreed. However, besides looking at the hand he was dealt, do you honestly feel that he has shown enough for you to feel comfortable with us turning the program over to him at such a critical juncture? If we shouldn't look too hard at his record what qualities do you feel Mullen possesses that makes his unimpressive record so far at MissSt more palatable? Is it his gameday coaching/playcalling? The way he recruits relative to circumstances? The way he developes, motivates and/or relates to his players? I

I would honestly like those that are pro-Mullen to provide some reasons as to why this guy should be at the top of our list.
 
People really under estimating how hard it is to recruit in that division.

Didn't mean to upvote this. Mullen is average as ****. To all of those that are trying to explain away his record, please explain then what you all are seeing to indicate that he is indeed a good/great coach.

Nick Saban had a 58% winning percentage at Michigan State. Mullen has a 61% winning percentage at Mississippi State. If it was up to you stupid *** fans LSU would've never hired Saban. You need a little bit of vision to find the next big thing at coaching. Somebody needs to save this stupid *** fanbase that's stuck in 1999 from themselves.

You mean like the same vision that got Al Golden the gig here after turning Temple around you clown?

Hey, Kiffen hasn't shown squat as a head coach but maybe we should show some vision and hire him anyway so hopefully he can get it together like Saban while he's here. Hey, who needs evidence right? We've got VISION baby!

Give me a break. Vision. Pfft. Like YOU know what the **** you're looking at.
 
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Mississippi State hasn't had a coach with an over .500 winning percentage since the 1950s. Mullen is at .597.

MSU is 7th of 7 teams in the SEC West in recruiting grounds and he has them competing in that league.

This is why you can't look strictly look at records.

Agreed. However, besides looking at the hand he was dealt, do you honestly feel that he has shown enough for you to feel comfortable with us turning the program over to him at such a critical juncture? If we shouldn't look too hard at his record what qualities do you feel Mullen possesses that makes his unimpressive record so far at MissSt more palatable? Is it his gameday coaching/playcalling? The way he recruits relative to circumstances? The way he developes, motivates and/or relates to his players? I

I would honestly like those that are pro-Mullen to provide some reasons as to why this guy should be at the top of our list.

But his record at MSU is impressive. He is winning more there then anyone has in the last 50 years. To expect someone to build a championship contending team from a bottom dweller is ridiculous. Briles is the only guy that I can think of that has done that and he wasn't in the SEC West.

He's a great offensive mind, he is Tom Herman before Herman was Herman. He's worked under the most ruthless savage in college football and has won 2 NCs as an OC. IMO, he has the exact traits of a HC that wins titles. Obsessed with winning, kind of an egomaniac and *******, and he wants this job bad. Why? Because he knows he can win a title here.

Maybe I have different goals then most of the fans on this site. I want to see Miami dominate and win NCs, not win 9 games and compete for the Coastal. Mullen gives Miami that chance IMO.
 
People really under estimating how hard it is to recruit in that division.

Didn't mean to upvote this. Mullen is average as ****. To all of those that are trying to explain away his record, please explain then what you all are seeing to indicate that he is indeed a good/great coach.

Nick Saban had a 58% winning percentage at Michigan State. Mullen has a 61% winning percentage at Mississippi State. If it was up to you stupid *** fans LSU would've never hired Saban. You need a little bit of vision to find the next big thing at coaching. Somebody needs to save this stupid *** fanbase that's stuck in 1999 from themselves.

You mean like the same vision that got Al Golden the gig here after turning Temple around you clown?

Hey, Kiffen hasn't shown squat as a head coach but maybe we should show some vision and hire him anyway so hopefully he can get it together like Saban while he's here. Hey, who needs evidence right? We've got VISION baby!

Give me a break. Vision. Pfft. Like YOU know what the **** you're looking at.

I'm sorry. When did Mullen ever have the best talent in his conference and still fail to win it like Golden and Kiffin failed to win? Mississippi State is the NC State of the SEC. No history and no funding compared to what they have to compete with. They're not even a top 5 option in their own division. They're the second option in their own state most cases. Nobody in that conference has done less with more than Mullen.
 
I respect your opinion, I just think that if Mullen was as much as a sure-fire slam dunk as you believe him to be that his record during his 7 year career at MSU would not have stagnated the way it has. For a coach that has a reputation as an offensive mastermind you would think that he would have been able to, offensively, overcome to a more impressive degree the talent disparities he' been saddled with against his SEC West rivals.

Imo, I just don't see his tenure at MSU being impressive enough to warrant handing over the keys to this program to him. Yes, he coached u der Meyer. Yes, he has a reputation as a great offensive mind and he is motivated to win. But is that enough? Does his performance so far as an actual head coach fill me with confidence that he is the answer to what ails this program? I just don't see it. I can't just follow along, like it appears some on here do, and take other peoples word for it that Mullen is some upper echelon coach that has what it takes to win titles here.

At least you provide reasons why you believe Mullen would be a good hire and I can respect that. I might not agree with you but I respect your opinion. I myself just don't see it and I won't pretend to in order to keep from being called an idiot from some of the know-it-all clowns on here that can't back up their opinions with anything further than personal attacks.
 
People really under estimating how hard it is to recruit in that division.

Didn't mean to upvote this. Mullen is average as ****. To all of those that are trying to explain away his record, please explain then what you all are seeing to indicate that he is indeed a good/great coach.

Nick Saban had a 58% winning percentage at Michigan State. Mullen has a 61% winning percentage at Mississippi State. If it was up to you stupid *** fans LSU would've never hired Saban. You need a little bit of vision to find the next big thing at coaching. Somebody needs to save this stupid *** fanbase that's stuck in 1999 from themselves.

You mean like the same vision that got Al Golden the gig here after turning Temple around you clown?

Hey, Kiffen hasn't shown squat as a head coach but maybe we should show some vision and hire him anyway so hopefully he can get it together like Saban while he's here. Hey, who needs evidence right? We've got VISION baby!

Give me a break. Vision. Pfft. Like YOU know what the **** you're looking at.

I'm sorry. When did Mullen ever have the best talent in his conference and still fail to win it like Golden and Kiffin failed to win? Mississippi State is the NC State of the SEC. No history and no funding compared to what they have to compete with. They're not even a top 5 option in their own division. They're the second option in the own state most cases. Nobody in that conference has done less with more than Mullen.

Honest question, when you say Mullen has done more with less what specifically are you refering to? I legitimately would like to know what in his coaching resume/recrecord can you poInt to to make this case? In what areas has he made dramatic improvement to the program he inherited? Does inheriting a program with little to no tradition of winning excuse his poor record against quality opponents and stagnation 7 years into his tenure? What are the intangibles you see in Mullen that makes you see beyond his record at MSU?
 
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