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Official Michael Irvin* Sues Marriott for $100 Million

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Looks like Mike is about to get paid and the video will be in the hands of the public soon IF he is correct.
 
Tad Footeball said:
Settlement? Puzzling to drop the suit but then to immediately schedule a presser to air the video.
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Sounds like he got a massive apology from the hotel and assurances from the NFL that this will not impact his future assignments. While the Big Brother world is frightening in many situations, video does help settle disputes.
 
Tad Footeball said:
Settlement? Puzzling to drop the suit but then to immediately schedule a presser to air the video.
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If the case had been settled, the dismissal would have happened with prejudice.

According to the article Marriott doesn't own the property. Maybe he intends to re-file against the property owners or another entity(s)?

This is good television.
 
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rsa coral gables said:
video of the encounter with the offended woman



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I haven’t followed this closely. So I thought this was about verbal sexual harassment. Is there a physical component alleged against Irvin that allegedly occurred during this 2 minutes in the lobby???
 
RVACane said:
I haven’t followed this closely. So I thought this was about verbal sexual harassment. Is there a physical component alleged against Irvin that allegedly occurred during this 2 minutes in the lobby???
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yes, he touched her twice. once on the outside of her left arm and the second time when she extended her hand to shake his hand.
 
rsa coral gables said:
video of the encounter with the offended woman



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As usual, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Clearly the Marriott story isn't fully accurate. The leering accusation is ridiculous. But I don't like that he reached out to touch her, at all, and then her body language pulled away, she took a step back. Then he went in to touch her again, sort of bent, weird, and after that she throws up her arms and gives kind of a polite "no" sign by waving them back and forth. He also said that she came up to him, right? But it looked like he saw her and got her attention, kind of encouraged her to step out of the lounge, and started the conversation. She didn't seem like she was in any rush to get away from him, though.

My guess is he happily flirted with her, maybe even lightly propositioned her, hardly a crime, she declined while keeping it light, and she's trying to blow that up into a thing.
 
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Tru C said:
The Alabama case is interesting.

My understanding is:

The player in question was always going to pick up the others from the club.

The gun was legally owned and left in the back seat under clothes because you cant bring the gun into the club.

The player in question was already on his way to pick up the others (again that was always the plan), and that is when the text was sent, while he was already driving. Technically, he shouldn’t have seen the text because the phone should not be in your hand reading texts while driving.

Once the player in question arrived near the club to pick them up (again which was always the plan), the legal owner of the gun retrieved the gun from the vehicle where he left it. The player in question never touched the gun.

So my question is, if the aforementioned facts are accurate, what steps or actions could the player in question have taken to prevent this? How is he responsible in any way? What poor judgment was displayed?
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Nothing you've said is factually inconsistent with what Miller and Miles have claimed.

And yet...maybe it's all self-serving lies, which deserve to be scrutinized and tested with further questioning and investigation.

1. "The player in question was always going to pick up the others from the club". Yeah, that's not what happened. Miller was actually WITH THEM at the club, or at least outside the club before the others got into the club. Miller chose not to wait in line, and instead went to a nearby restaurant. Now, since Miller's car was ONE (of two, because Jaden Bradley also drove his gun-free car) used to get to the club, it is entirely possible that this consideration of "you can't bring the gun into the club" was discussed and/or known to Miller prior to the incident happening. So, yeah, not as much of an open-and-shut "Miller knew nothing" assertion as you seem to think it is.

2. "The player in question was already on his way to pick up the others (again that was always the plan), and that is when the text was sent, while he was already driving." Again, this is a statement that you seem to want to believe because of the false storyline that has been circulated. You can say "the player in question" all you'd like, but it's Miller. And Miller was not "already on his way to pick up the others", and it was not "always the plan" and there is no proof that the text was sent "while he was already driving". HOW BIG DO YOU THINK TUSCALOOSA IS? HOW BIG DO YOU THINK THE STRIP IS (it's maybe 5 blocks long)? Miller drove. Jaden Bradley ALSO drove his own gun-free car. And Miller was IN LINE at the club before walking to a nearby restaurant because he didn't want to wait in line. Miller didn't go to freaking Birmingham. There was no plan for Miller to drive back and pick up anyone, because he was nearby, PLUS Jaden Bradley had a (gun-free) car. Yes, there was a plan for some to drive home with Miller BECAUSE IT WAS HIS CAR and he should have been at the club with the rest of the party, if not for his impatience with waiting in line. The murder happened a block or two from the club. This wasn't a case of Miller having to drive a great distance or for a long period of time to pick them up, and there was at least one other driver (Jaden Bradley) with a car.

3. Miller parked his car around 11:30 PM in an alley behind "The Houndstooth", a bar on the north side of University Boulevard, across from the "Twelve25" sports bar on the south side of University Boulevard. Everything that happened (from the parking to the club to the shooting) from 11:30 PM until the murder at 1:45 AM happened within an approximate two block radius. There was no "long drive" that Miller took. Nothing about "he can't read a text in his car while driving". While Miller is going to say he never saw the text, HE WAS NEARBY. It is beyond dispute whether Miles sent a text asking him to bring the gun. What IS disputed (no matter what you choose to believe) is whether Miller actually read the text AND responded to the text accordingly.

4. Once again, Miller didn't drive all the way to Birmingham and back between 11:30 PM and 1:45 AM. Miller didn't want to wait in line at the club. He went to a nearby restaurant for food and/or beverages which didn't involve him waiting in line. Miller wasn't "at home". Miller wasn't "hours away". Now, we can all debate what I'm about to say, but here's the thing. I've gone out to restaurants/bars/clubs with college friends thousands of times. Often in a group where one person drives. And if the INTENT is just to leave a place and go home, you meet at a spot OR AT THE CAR, get in, and drive home. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

5. Miller got a text to "bring the bone" (gun) while he was sitting at a nearby restaurant. And rather than say "no" or "WTF" or "I'll meet you at the car, let's not do something really stupid", he got in his car and drove ONE BLOCK to the murder scene. ONE BLOCK. That's not a "pick me up at the club" situation. That's a "bring the bone when the bone is in the BACK SEAT" situation. Miles sent the "when can you pick me up" text at 1:02 am. Miles sent the "how long you goin be" text at 1:10 am. Miles and his group didn't even leave the club until 1:36 am. And then at 1:38 am, Miles sent the "bring the bone" text, because guys were "faking". And Miller's car made its one-block-journey arrival at 1:43 am.

6. Now, you can choose to cite the whole "legal owner of the gun" thing all you'd like. But if this really WAS a "pick me up" text, and not a "bring me my gun" text, then Miller expects Miles to get in the car and leave. He doesn't sit around waiting for Miles to rummage around in the back seat "looking for God knows what hint-hint". The reality is that Miller sat there as things were said such as "the heat is in the hat" and "is there one in the head" (references to the gun and whether it was loaded) and Miles moved his girlfriend out of the way of what was about to happen. Now, nobody disputes that Miller stayed in the car. Nobody disputes that Miller didn't touch the gun. But Miller delivered the gun and allowed it to be taken out of the car after having been sent a text to bring the gun (all of ONE BLOCK). So, yeah, this is an area for inquiry that doesn't require an investigating officer to accept everyone's accounts at face value.



So, yeah, if you are truly curious about "the steps that Miller could have taken to prevent this" or "how is Miller responsible in any way", you can use the real facts to ask some good follow-up questions. Who knows, maybe it is absolutely true that Miller had NO IDEA of what was happening. But based on what? Because he said so? His statements are the definition of motivated self-interest. But it certainly warrants an investigation.

The real problem here, AT THIS TIME, is not whether Miller committed any crimes are not. The REAL PROBLEM is that it is not being investigated with any sort of vigor. The police have accepted AT FACE VALUE Miller's denials without bothering to consider whether he has every motivation to lie and minimize his involvement. There are many additional questions that could/should be asked, and verification of every aspect of the story with things such as video surveillance, receipts, and eyewitness accounts.

Unfortunately, those things take some time. But that's not my fault or anyone's fault. Someone died, and that death should be investigated with more effort and a certain amount of intellectual skepticism, particularly when one or more of the involved parties has already lied multiple times since the murder.


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Cryptical Envelopment said:
As usual, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Clearly the Marriott story isn't fully accurate. The leering accusation is ridiculous. But I don't like that he reached out to touch her, at all, and then her body language pulled away, she took a step back. Then he went in to touch her again, sort of bent, weird, and after that she throws up her arms and gives kind of a polite "no" sign by waving them back and forth. He also said that she came up to him, right? But it looked like he saw her and got her attention, kind of encouraged her to step out of the lounge, and started the conversation. She didn't seem like she was in any rush to get away from him, though.

My guess is he happily flirted with her, maybe even lightly propositioned her, hardly a crime, she declined while keeping it light, and she's trying to blow that up into a thing.
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She waves goodbye as well. If Mike THEN follows her back into the bar area or something like that then I'd say all bets are off but I'd tend to think your guess at the end of your post is probably pretty accurate.

If anything, Irving essentially took no for an answer and in no instance can this person credibly claim to have been in fear for their safety or to have even been harassed in such a brief exchange.
 
Cryptical Envelopment said:
As usual, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Clearly the Marriott story isn't fully accurate. The leering accusation is ridiculous. But I don't like that he reached out to touch her, at all, and then her body language pulled away, she took a step back. Then he went in to touch her again, sort of bent, weird, and after that she throws up her arms and gives kind of a polite "no" sign by waving them back and forth. He also said that she came up to him, right? But it looked like he saw her and got her attention, kind of encouraged her to step out of the lounge, and started the conversation. She didn't seem like she was in any rush to get away from him, though.

My guess is he happily flirted with her, maybe even lightly propositioned her, hardly a crime, she declined while keeping it light, and she's trying to blow that up into a thing.
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huh?
 
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