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I’m starting to think the committee is hedging to see if Duke wins. And if Duke does win (and BYU loses) maybe, just maybe, they are willing to push ND out in order to get an ACC participant in the playoffs. That is likely very wishful thinking, but I could see the rationale.
 
AUcane said:
BYU earned the right to play in their CG and if they get trounced, they're out of the playoff. Aside from being in the sacred cow SEC, aren't these the same scenario? In any case, I acknowledged this would be a wild scenario but something to look at. Who knows with these CGs - there might be a big injury, etc.

But in general, yeah, we need BYU loss and a Bama win this weekend and then let the chips fall where they may.
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BYU is not in the playoff right now. If they lose, you’re not taking them from in to out. Dropping them a spot isn’t the same as taking a team that’s in and dropping them out. JMO.
 
Here's something else to ponder. I think it's best if both Bama and BYU to win. A Bama win keeps them above ND and a BYU win allows them to jump ND. I don't think TT or Georgia falls below ND with a loss. So then there's another opportunity for the 10/11 ND Miami debate.
 
sszoeboy said:
Here's something else to ponder. I think it's best if both Bama and BYU to win. A Bama win keeps them above ND and a BYU win allows them to jump ND. I don't think TT or Georgia falls below ND with a loss. So then there's another opportunity for the 10/11 ND Miami debate.
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You’re ******* crazy.
A BYU win = Miami and ND out
A BYU loss = EITHER ND or Miami in. It’s quite literally that simple.

The only question is if the committee is going to keep Devaluing the H2H or not.
 
tdjones34 said:
They will just move ND up
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This is the problem.

The Committee can rig the rankings however they want to justify their decision.

If they want Miami in, they can put us next to each other and flip the teams.

If they want Notre Dame in, they can create a buffer by moving them ahead of Bama (or even UGA if they lose).

It really just comes down to which team the Committee wants in the playoffs.

Not loving our chances, but it ain't ova til it's ova.
 
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CanesAreAble said:
This is the problem.

The Committee can rig the rankings however they want to justify their decision.

If they want Miami in, they can put us next to each other and flip the teams.

If they want Notre Dame in, they can create a buffer by moving them ahead of Bama (or even UGA if they lose).

It really just comes down to which team the Committee wants in the playoffs.

Not loving our chances, but it ain't ova til it's ova.
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The buffer was within 3 spots a few weeks now it's 1
So they also get to move the buffer
 
tdjones34 said:
They will just move ND up
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It’s trending that way. They are even backtracking from the H2H criteria based on the chair’s talking points. If they haven’t moved us over ND by now (after a resounding win), they won’t while we’re both idle
 
CanesAreAble said:
This is the problem.

The Committee can rig the rankings however they want to justify their decision.

If they want Miami in, they can put us next to each other and flip the teams.

If they want Notre Dame in, they can create a buffer by moving them ahead of Bama (or even UGA if they lose).

It really just comes down to which team the Committee wants in the playoffs.

Not loving our chances, but it ain't ova til it's ova.
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Think about what you’re saying. And let me preface this by saying you’re right, these people are morons and can/will do what they want. But think about what you’re saying.

Bama is 9
ND is 10

Bama plays in the SEC championship on Saturday
ND does not play.

You’re saying, Bama is currently ahead, and if they WIN THE SEC CHAMPIONSHIP, against #4 UGA, they will drop to #10 and Notre Dame, who isn’t playing football, will go to #9? That’s literally not possible. 10-2 Alabama wins the SEC, goes to 11-2, and drops a spot behind a team they were already ahead of, a 10-2 ND, who didn’t play? Even for a group of people who can do what they want, they literally cannot do that. There is a 0.0000000% chance that happens. None.

I won’t believe Miami is actually in this until I see it on Sunday. And still might not then. You cannot be a more jaded person than me with all this ****. You cannot be less optimistic that Miami will ever get the benefit of the doubt.

However, if Bama and Texas Tech win, this gets REAL interesting.
 
AUcane said:
It’s trending that way. They are even backtracking from the H2H criteria based on the chair’s talking points. If they haven’t moved us over ND by now (after a resounding win), they won’t while we’re both idle
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What? They said teams can move while idle and H2H is easier to apply when teams are back to back in the BCS ranking.
 
Calinative said:
You’re ******* crazy.
A BYU win = Miami and ND out
A BYU loss = EITHER ND or Miami in. It’s quite literally that simple.

The only question is if the committee is going to keep Devaluing the H2H or not.
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Bama is not getting left out. You should not be wanting to find out if they’d just flip ND and Bama again, if Bama loses, and **** us.

We are TT, Bama and Duke fans Saturday.
 
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arwinga said:
Josh mentions ACC dooms day scenario if duke wins and ACC gets left and how commitee wouldnt want that. My question is why would they care if ACC is out. All they care about is SEC
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Josh has been saying this for a few days now and I don’t get it either.

I just genuinely don’t see how you can submit a final ballot that has ND 10 and Miami 11. Even though I don’t agree with it, I’ll even go along with the nonsense that if they’re a few spots apart, head to head doesn’t come into play. But if they’re literally right next to each other, how can it not? The resumes overall are obviously very close, THEYRE RANKED SEQUENTIALLY. So clearly they’re almost exactly similar teams. But one beat the other on the field. That team has to be ahead.

If they pull some wonky **** and don’t drop BYU for losing, and it’s ND 10 and Miami 12 like it is today, I’ll *****, but ok. If they pull some wonky **** and Bama loses and they drop them to 10, ND is 9, and Miami is 11 or 12, I’ll *****, but ok. But if they submit a ballot that says ND 10, Miami 11, I will literally have to be jailed.
 
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Pate and Herbstreet both saying Miami should be over ND if BYU loses.

Pate mentioned Duke winning furthers our cause because playoff wasn’t created to have 2 G5 teams make the playoff
 
TheATLCane said:
Pate and Herbstreet both saying Miami should be over ND if BYU loses.

Pate mentioned Duke winning furthers our cause because playoff wasn’t created to have 2 G5 teams make the playoff
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You cannot have 2 teams back to back, and the one that won on the field is behind. You simply can’t. If they rig it to always have at least 1 team between us, ok. But you can’t say ND is 10 and Miami is 11. That simply cannot, and imo will not, happen.

Texas is 13, with 3 losses.
Vandy is 14, with 2 losses.
Anyone know what happened when they played?

OU is 8, at 10-2
Bama is 9, at 10-2
Anyone know what happened when they played?

Last week, Pitt was 22, at 8-3
GT was 23, at 9-2
Anyone know what happened when they played?

Miami very well might get left out. The odds say they will. But ND cannot be 10 and Miami be 11. That cannot happen.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
You cannot have 2 teams back to back, and the one that won on the field is behind. You simply can’t. If they rig it to always have at least 1 team between us, ok. But you can’t say ND is 10 and Miami is 11. That simply cannot, and imo will not, happen.

Texas is 13, with 3 losses.
Vandy is 14, with 2 losses.
Anyone know what happened when they played?

OU is 8, at 10-2
Bama is 9, at 10-2
Anyone know what happened when they played?

Last week, Pitt was 22, at 8-3
GT was 23, at 9-2
Anyone know what happened when they played?

Miami very well might get left out. The odds say they will. But ND cannot be 10 and Miami be 11. That cannot happen.
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Well put sir
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