I would argue why do they schedule boring games where the opponent doesnt have a chance. Its not fun. Watching us score agaisnt a JV squad isnt entertaining. Then they scedule during the week when people work the next day. If it were up to me we would play FBS schools only.Went to the game last night. Lets say i was highly disappointed in the turn out. I dont too care for what the media and rival fans say but i want the players to feel the love every game, V FSU or v Bethune.
If you live out of state or way up central and north FL, this is not about u. The money out of state fans have to spend to get to 1 game, dwarfs what local fans need to spend on season tickets.
Miami fans game attendance comes down to culture and mindset. Miami Dade population is 2.6 mill as of 2021, Broward is 1.9 mill and palm beach county is 1.5 mill. Roughly 6 million people live within 1 hour of Hard Rock stadium. Miami is a national program. Not getting 55-60k every week is culture and mindset.
I do put alot of it on the University. They do a really poor job of marketing the program. Why dont they bomb local gas stations and corner stores with canes gear and memorabilia, billboards, radio spots.
So FL has a higher median income than most small college towns. We can claim that other university have more alums than Miami, thats true. But Miami also attracts more fans that have no affiliation with the university because of brand recognition. The University is not maximizing the brand recognition.
In addition to the marketing i spoke of, i would reduce the capacity of Hard Rock and make the tickets more scarce.
This is gonna be the last negative fodder rivals and media use against us. We need to change it and stop making excuses.
Not because its been one way doesnt mean it always has to be that way. It only remain that way if we do the same thing. Winning alone wont bring fans. I seen clips of 2001 and there were 40k v Syracuse
Btw when i say market the team. Play on the hometown all american. There should be a billboard all over SO FL of Kam, James. They are not doing enough.
Went to the game last night. Lets say i was highly disappointed in the turn out. I dont too care for what the media and rival fans say but i want the players to feel the love every game, V FSU or v Bethune.
If you live out of state or way up central and north FL, this is not about u. The money out of state fans have to spend to get to 1 game, dwarfs what local fans need to spend on season tickets.
Miami fans game attendance comes down to culture and mindset. Miami Dade population is 2.6 mill as of 2021, Broward is 1.9 mill and palm beach county is 1.5 mill. Roughly 6 million people live within 1 hour of Hard Rock stadium. Miami is a national program. Not getting 55-60k every week is culture and mindset.
I do put alot of it on the University. They do a really poor job of marketing the program. Why dont they bomb local gas stations and corner stores with canes gear and memorabilia, billboards, radio spots.
So FL has a higher median income than most small college towns. We can claim that other university have more alums than Miami, thats true. But Miami also attracts more fans that have no affiliation with the university because of brand recognition. The University is not maximizing the brand recognition.
In addition to the marketing i spoke of, i would reduce the capacity of Hard Rock and make the tickets more scarce.
This is gonna be the last negative fodder rivals and media use against us. We need to change it and stop making excuses.
Not because its been one way doesnt mean it always has to be that way. It only remain that way if we do the same thing. Winning alone wont bring fans. I seen clips of 2001 and there were 40k v Syracuse
Btw when i say market the team. Play on the hometown all american. There should be a billboard all over SO FL of Kam, James. They are not doing enough.
nice gesture but this wasnt the problem last night. There were tickets selling for $1 online.Part of the problem is some season ticket holders would rather hold onto their tickets and make no money rather than give them away. We have over 30,000 season ticket holders, I'm one of them, I couldn't go, no one wants to pay for last night's ticket so I gave my 4 away. I posted them on a Miami fan's Facebook page the guy took his kids and everyone is happy.
If i travel through anywhere from palm beach through central and north FL, there are seminole and gator stuff in pretty much every gas station and corner store. I wanted to get a shirt less than a mile from Hard Rock, i couldn't find shyyt. Thats one thing. Also i use tv or radio ads as an example. As a Jamaican i find out about alot of parties when i got the restaurants and see flyers for all kinda events. Miami should do these things, also barber shops with the schedule and Kam etc on it. How much would it cost them? If they keep doing the same bull of course nothing will not change. That's the whole point. We got fans, they simply want to go to the big games.The fact that our fanbase thinks that merely throwing money at the problem will fix this is further proof that people just don’t get it. If you live in South Florida and aren’t aware of the program, either you are not paying attention or are flat out under a rock. Social media, local tv and sports media all cover Miami football. The issue is the same as it’s always been: College athletics are built around the stakeholders, and that’s the issue at Miami. There aren’t enough local stakeholders because 1)Small private school and 2)Most students aren’t from the area and have no plans to stay after graduation. In other words, there aren’t enough local stakeholders to consistently fill the facility on their own, which means Miami unlike most schools have to rely on people with no connection to the school to do the heavy lifting. The issue is that unless there’s a very compelling reason to show up, there’s little reason for those fans to do so. Giving away tickets or plastering billboards all over the place doesn’t change that simple fact.
Stacking up wins will fill up the stands
This right here for real! Every time I walk in to a convenience store and go to the apparel sections where they sell the hats; there is always every other team EXCEPT UM. Suckeye hats and big 12 teams!! WTF, why!?> Why dont they bomb local gas stations and corner stores with canes gear and memorabilia, billboards, radio spots.
Yes this exactly.
Miami fan culture and mindset, like i said. Maybe we should schedule 12 games v USC, Bama, UGA, Clemson, Ohio etc.I would argue why do they schedule boring games where the opponent doesnt have a chance. Its not fun. Watching us score agaisnt a JV squad isnt entertaining. Then they scedule during the week when people work the next day. If it were up to me we would play FBS schools only.
If i travel through anywhere from palm beach through central and north FL, there are seminole and gator stuff in pretty much every gas station and corner store. I wanted to get a shirt less than a mile from Hard Rock, i couldn't find shyyt. Thats one thing. Also i use tv or radio ads as an example. As a Jamaican i find out about alot of parties when i got the restaurants and see flyers for all kinda events. Miami should do these things, also barber shops with the schedule and Kam etc on it. How much would it cost them? If they keep doing the same bull of course nothing will change. That's the whole point. We got fans, they simply want to go to the big games.
Yeah and it can be covered again. U man spent months claiming how Cristobal is in love with Bro style and would never hire air raid so why cant we talk about this?
U man act like there is nothing we can do about the attendance and i disagree. "Im not gonna go to Bethune cuz there only gonna be 35k". Thats how yall think. If the universoty just started spending on the program why do people assume they been doing all they can to market the team?
And u can simply ignore the topic like i do with alot of shyyt i see on here. Thats your opinion. All yall on here telling me our attendance cant be better like yall did political polls on why cane fans dont come out but will show up for FSU or Notre Dame.I did? That's news to me. I don't use the term bro style or whatever cute catch phrase is in its prime here.
What we can all agree upon is that this is a new offense to him. So I'd say say that until proven wrong those people were still correct. By the way, we still aren't running an air raid offense, just an FYI. That's part of the problem here, people have opinions, they just aren't informed.
Do I think there's ways to raise attendance, sure. Your original post though was a clear demonstration of how out of touch people are with this program, not just currently, but through the years. It's a can't see the forest through the trees thing.
Simply put, to get more butts in seats, a few things need to happen. Continue winning is front and center. Pricing, it's not at the right plave where people value a ticket at whatever that price is. Lastly, last night's game is where you take a hit on what you're making and make it dirt cheap or free to the public. You target those that have no chance of buying tickets at whatever price is ideal.
Also, you do realize that attendance is on the decline across the country, right? That's another topic entirely.
All of this has been covered though. Have a blast hypothesizing how it can change. I'm really not being a **** here, but there's a lot of smart people across the land with balance sheets and all kinds of data streams with a vested interest in stopping the slow meteiculation of fans from seats to their sofas.
Yet they see the need to blast their stuff all over the state.Florida and Florida State are both state schools in podunk towns where the university is literally THE biggest revenue generator in those cities. On Saturdays in fall, the entire towns shut down for football. Each university has over 40,000 undergrads and a slew of alumni that stayed in town after graduating.
To expect big city, private school Miami (with its 12K undergrads) to ever compete with that—it's just not gonna ever happen. Not in a large, metropolitan city with a slew of pro sports franchises, nightlife and other ways to spend the entertainment dollar. The exact opposite of a college town experience.
Yes, however I don't have audit rights, so I don't know for sure. I'm not going to have a debate on degree of accuracy of my statement as I don't know how many season ticket holders are there. I spent about 90 seconds googling and couldn't come across a simple answer. This is not a new phenomenon. The Marlins under the Samson/Loria reign of terror were masters at this.Do you really think there ever were 50,000+ people who bought tix for a Bethune game in 2019 and 2022 (as that poster said) -- or in any other year? Thats what paid attendance means.
You'd have to believe 35,000 holding a ticket just decided not to show. Sure, there's always no-shows but that's sorta unbelievable.
Yeah I keep forgetting the backstory when I've been critical. It's weird tbh but I wish him well. RIP to his brother.Everyone grieves in their own way.
This response is confusing and a little odd. I asked "What marketing budget?" and you came back with this? My comment/question was a snarky way of saying UM doesn't have an athletics marketing budget. It was a little tongue in cheek.The fact that our fanbase thinks that merely throwing money at the problem will fix this is further proof that people just don’t get it. If you live in South Florida and aren’t aware of the program, either you are not paying attention or are flat out under a rock. Social media, local tv and sports media all cover Miami football. The issue is the same as it’s always been: College athletics are built around the stakeholders, and that’s the issue at Miami. There aren’t enough local stakeholders because 1)Small private school and 2)Most students aren’t from the area and have no plans to stay after graduation. In other words, there aren’t enough local stakeholders to consistently fill the facility on their own, which means Miami unlike most schools have to rely on people with no connection to the school to do the heavy lifting. The issue is that unless there’s a very compelling reason to show up, there’s little reason for those fans to do so. Giving away tickets or plastering billboards all over the place doesn’t change that simple fact.
Part of the problem is some season ticket holders would rather hold onto their tickets and make no money rather than give them away. We have over 30,000 season ticket holders, I'm one of them, I couldn't go, no one wants to pay for last night's ticket so I gave my 4 away. I posted them on a Miami fan's Facebook page the guy took his kids and everyone is happy.