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Miami DB OJ Frederique named as next household name by CBSSports

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JHallCanes said:
Strange fanbase sometimes

Everyone hated on Bain all year last year but now keep calling him a first round pick

OJ had one bad game at the end of the year and our fans sometimes treat him like an afterthought

Probably because he was a 3 star
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Nah, it's just because this fanbase is made up of, mostly, uneducated and miserable individuals, so the desire to **** on kids far outweighs the desire to hype them up.

Obviously not all. We have plenty of people who are in the kid's corner and will tell you they're better than they actually are. But that's not the majority. The majority waits for every aspect of the program to fail so they can be first in line to tell you how badly they suck. Really odd bunch.
 
theuksu said:
Thanks for proving my point, Moore had a better year. And ND didn't have a top 5 def. That's not bashing OJ, just facts. I hate ND so would love nothing better than for OJ to outperform this dude and with better coaching this year I think he will.
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I didn't prove your point; he just had a higher PFF because he was targeted more. Look at the numbers. I don't think you understand what you're looking at. He only gave up 14 catches for the season. Do you understand how rare that is?
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Nah, it's just because this fanbase is made up of, mostly, uneducated and miserable individuals, so the desire to **** on kids far outweighs the desire to hype them up.

Obviously not all. We have plenty of people who are in the kid's corner and will tell you they're better than they actually are. But that's not the majority. The majority waits for every aspect of the program to fail so they can be first in line to tell you how badly they suck. Really odd bunch.
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It’s the duality of Bain that gets me though

But you’re correct I don’t like to use the minority to make a point but just been a strange few months
 
dunkman23 said:
I didn't prove your point; he just had a higher PFF because he was targeted more. Look at the numbers. I don't think you understand what you're looking at. He only gave up 14 catches for the season. Do you understand how rare that is
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dunkman23 said:
You're basing your point on feelings, not stats. Here's the data. Moore's team had a top-5 defense, and they weren't as messy as we are.

CB Leonard Moore: 87.1 PFF
coverage grade, 23 receptions allowed for 272 yards and two touchdowns on 52 targets. Two interceptions.
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CB OJ Frederique: 75.8 PFF coverage grade, 14 receptions for 161 yards and two touchdowns allowed on 38 targets. One interception.
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In 2024, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish football team's defense was ranked #4 in the nation for scoring defense, allowing just 15.5 points per game. They also ranked #1 in the country for defensive takeaways with
33. Additionally, their rushing defense ranked #49 in rushing yards allowed per game.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Nah, it's just because this fanbase is made up of, mostly, uneducated and miserable individuals, so the desire to **** on kids far outweighs the desire to hype them up.

Obviously not all. We have plenty of people who are in the kid's corner and will tell you they're better than they actually are. But that's not the majority. The majority waits for every aspect of the program to fail so they can be first in line to tell you how badly they suck. Really odd bunch.
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You mean the kind of dip****s who turn a discussion about any other coach into how much they hate Mario?

Ot this discussion into ****ting all over positive news about OJ?
 
RVACane said:
Ok @Angry Ibis and @cway313 , your turn - say something nice and positive.
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Freddie Orange Juice was a bright spot for a position that doesn’t win or lose football games, but did for the 2024 Miami Hurricanes.

I look forward to more positives from him in 2025.

Thank you Freddie, you put the Orange in Orangeman and I’m sorry Mario didn’t provide you more support on defense last season.
 
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JHallCanes said:
It’s the duality of Bain that gets me though

But you’re correct I don’t like to use the minority to make a point but just been a strange few months
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I don't think it's the minority, honestly.

Just look at this site. The threads about "bad news" get MUCH more traffic and interaction than the ones about good news. This isn't a perfect comparison by any means, but just as one small example, the Dereon Coleman commitment thread has 36 pages since last July.

The Isaiah Horton transfer thread has 46 pages since December.

And also, this is on a forum of supposed massive Canes fans. What kind of *** clown would live on this site like we do if they weren't a MASSIVE, die-hard fan. So this place *should* be representative of bigger fanboys than other places. Like a facebook group, or actual real life. So if this place is just itching to pounce on any molecule of negativity, how's the rest of society?

Again, the miserable are not the minority. IMO.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I don't think it's the minority, honestly.

Just look at this site. The threads about "bad news" get MUCH more traffic and interaction than the ones about good news. This isn't a perfect comparison by any means, but just as one small example, the Dereon Coleman commitment thread has 36 pages since last July.

The Isaiah Horton transfer thread has 46 pages since December.

And also, this is on a forum of supposed massive Canes fans. What kind of *** clown would live on this site like we do if they weren't a MASSIVE, die-hard fan. So this place *should* be representative of bigger fanboys than other places. Like a facebook group, or actual real life. So if this place is just itching to pounce on any molecule of negativity, how's the rest of society?

Again, the miserable are not the minority. IMO.
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Just a thought, but do you think maybe their is less to be said when the overall agreement is the same? For example how many ways can you discuss how good landing a talent like Cantwell is? Not much arguing takes place in a thread like that. Whereas varying opinions typically generate more view points.
 
cway313 said:
Just a thought, but do you think maybe their is less to be said when the overall agreement is the same? For example how many ways can you discuss how good landing a talent like Cantwell is? Not much arguing takes place in a thread like that. Whereas varying opinions typically generate more view points.
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Fair. Like I said, it's not the best or end all example. But you definitely have a point. It just seems to me like the threads where we all ***** about something get a ton more traffic where we all agree on something positive.

Probably reflective of society in general, actually. But that's a way bigger discussion that doesn't belong here.
 
My only concern is that OJ played in the position that Daryl Porter Jr played the year before, and Porter had similar statistical performance as OJ. And look how that turned out the year after.

I'll counter my own argument in saying, OJ was a Fr and he has better measurables and physical attributes.

So there is something to be said about that spot in Guidry's defense.

This year, new players new defense new coach, so we'll see.
 
Is this a hot take?

With Keionte Scott, Ethan O'Conner, Chuck Brantley, Xavier Lucas now in the mix, it wouldn't be surprising if OJ loses his yob when camp begins a couple months from now.
 
SinisterCane said:
The only thing week is this response OJ played horrible down and stretch. You must be his cousin.
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Nah you just soft. I know you definitely never played any sports with that soft shît. Who gone quit on their career because they had a bad game as a freshman gtfo
 
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rok said:
Is this a hot take?

With Keionte Scott, Ethan O'Conner, Chuck Brantley, Xavier Lucas now in the mix, it wouldn't be surprising if OJ loses his yob when camp begins a couple months from now.
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It is because Scott and Brantley are playing nickel and have no effect on oj. And unless O’Connor is just flat out better than him oj will start
 
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