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Martell’s Attorney re: NCAA Waiver

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Let them all play dammit! Tate! Bubba! Asa! And yes, Fields!

NCAA is a factious government. Condemn their azzes! Fight for player Freedom!
 
I think that’s a bad argument - the whole new coaching staff turnover.

As I’m sure been mentioned previously the NCAA can easily counter with “well you were content staying there until they brought fields in”.
 
kryptonite said:
This would work in our favor now, but what happens when a kid tries to bail on us because we lost a coach? Just pointing out that these things cut both ways.
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It's part of the game. These coaches are selling themselves to recruits. No kid should be forced to stay at a school when the coaches are free to come and go as they please.

If I sign up to play for Nick Saban and a week later he quits and now I have to play for Al Golden, you better believe I'm out.
 
First, it's HC's. Then position coaches. Next it's QB's. Now it's QB's lawyers . . .

What I want to know is - can they recruit?
 
Like I said his best bet is his lawyer to slam the domestic violence thing. "My client felt Urban allowed a culture of domestic in the program. My client was optimistic with urban retiring a new staff would bring in a new culture. But with Ryan Day being retained my client felt uncomfortable"Even if fabricated that's the only way. Just like the race thing with Fields, the NCAA won't want to argue against domestic violence with whats going on in society today. That's just my opinion tho
 
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DTP said:
If I sign up to play for Nick Saban and a week later he quits and now I have to play for Al Golden, you better believe I'm out.
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Come on, man, don’t be such a diva. Have a little patience. Brick by brick.
 
Kevin said:
I think that’s a bad argument - the whole new coaching staff turnover.

As I’m sure been mentioned previously the NCAA can easily counter with “well you were content staying there until they brought fields in”.
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So what would your argument be? It might not be the best argument but it's his best argument. I mean let's be real also, like the attorney said it's a tough one, and in any regular year he likely does not get a waiver. But there is recent precedent with NCAA granting waivers for coaching turnover situations like with Patterson and Ole Miss. And losing your HC amid a controversy, when the new HC and others on staff are from that same toxic situation, it's not that bad of an argument.

I am sure there other issues that the attorney did not lay out in his interview. Factors that the ncaa considers in a waiver that will help to paint an overall picture that they should approve. Some factors will help tate, some won't. And I really don't think a tweet will be the deciding factor. I think he has a good shot considering the portal is like the wild west right now and especially if they grant Fields I don't see how they reject Martell.
 
He should say he grew up with domestic violence and can't trust OSU anymore after the way they handled the scandal.

He's had nightmares, the shakes, and panic attacks when entering the coaches meetings.
 
Did Martell hurt his case with his social media tweets? He tweeted towards Justin Fields that the Ohio State QB job was his and to basically look elsewhere. This is after Meyer had already announced his retirement. Additionally, his OC that he's had for 2 years is now the head coach. So, it makes the coaching change as reason for transferring that much less convincing.

It will be interesting to see how the NCAA rules in this case.
 
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DTP said:
It's part of the game. These coaches are selling themselves to recruits. No kid should be forced to stay at a school when the coaches are free to come and go as they please.

If I sign up to play for Nick Saban and a week later he quits and now I have to play for Al Golden, you better believe I'm out.
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No doubt when it's the HC and it's soon after you sign, but where's the line? What if it's your position coach? What if a coach leaves after you've been there a year?

The system has always been heavily slanted in favor of schools and coaches at the expense of players. I'm just saying it's a slippery slope, and if this goes far enough we may not like the results.

And I don't know if I specified, but I was talking about waivers to play immediately not the ability to transfer. If everybody can have a waiver it opens the door for the same programs that get top kids out of HS to just poach the best performing kids around. Instead of paying them out of HS, let another school coach them up for 2 years then pay them once you've seen what they can do.
 
CashMoneyCane said:
I'm not arguing against what the attorney said or his fiduciary responsibility. I'm saying the way he said it sounds like he doesn't have a good, specific reason. Which will likely not go over well.
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... saying the way he said it sounds like... is my point exactly. Semantic argument about an ambiguous word choice - not as serious as some here would lead me to believe.
 
Tate is getting cleared and his attorney selection is immaterial. He wouldn't have enrolled at UM (giving up grad transfer option) if his case wasn't a slam dunk.
 
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