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Mario Cristobal

Cant win without the joes, can't get the joes if you can't win.

Where does that leave us?

/We back?
 
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brock said:
I certainly have and many others have been talking about his lack of recruiting ability for years
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Bruh, we ALL have. That's why I'm not buying the argument of "he's only been here for less than a year" chit. His recruiting acumen has been absent and I would like to know how he recruited at MSU and UT, as well.
 
Rellyrell said:
Bruh, we ALL have. That's why I'm not buying the argument of "he's only been here for less than a year" chit. His recruiting acumen has been absent and I would like to know how he recruited at MSU and UT, as well.
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Take a coach like urban Meyer for an example, yeah he’s an elite X’s and O’s guy but he’s also a top 3 elite recruiter and understands the importance of it. He’s not having a coach on his staff (banda) going around saying we want guys who want to be canes or that they don’t care about stars or recruiting rankings. Meyer understands your have to get the dudes the best of the best and I know diaz doesn’t understands that
 
MirabalCane said:
No he won at a garbage program at FIU. When he started at FIU they were practicing on a soccer field and barely had bodies to practice.
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He failed against peer competition... he wasn't playing Oklahoma week in week out. How many coaches have been fired at this level and gone on to do great things?

The good coaches find a way to win.

UAB didn't even have a program 3 years ago and Bill Clark's kicking the crap out of his conference. That's the type of results we should be looking at.

The ONLY reason Mario's being mentioned so much is he played here.
 
MirabalCane said:
And guess what we are not one of them. We will keep worrying about the coastal for the next 10 years. Oh and he is building something real special up there. What are we doing??? Zero with this joke of a staff.
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Never said we were. Just stating that plenty of teams claim the same thing. Pedo state, Michigan, uf, Washington, TAMU, Longhorns.
Now if Mario can come here if he doesn’t get it done at Oregon and recruit a top 5 class then I’ll believe in his magical recruiting powers. Even helfridge recruited well there. But all the schools that get a former bama coach think he’s the next dude to win a title.
I’m being honest when I say I wish he wins 2 nattys and then comes here. But I’m also pointing out that he ain’t won sht just like manny. UGA fans figuring out buyouts already for coley and wondering how much longer they should give Kirby.
We’re 5 games in with a the worst oline in cfb and dudes want everyone gone.
Oregon has one of the most experienced o lines and a first round qb and I would be optimistic too. The most beautiful facilities with the marquee brand in sports behind them. Great pipelines to rich recruiting areas. He’s going to have to deal with an almost zero excuse factor if doesn’t happen. And if it doesn’t happen there why would anyone think it would happen here.
 
brock said:
Take a coach like urban Meyer for an example, yeah he’s an elite X’s and O’s guy but he’s also a top 3 elite recruiter and understands the importance of it. He’s not having a coach on his staff (banda) going around saying we want guys who want to be canes or that they don’t care about stars or recruiting rankings. Meyer understands your have to get the dudes the best of the best and I know diaz doesn’t understands that
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All facts.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
We're more of a joke now than we've been over the past 15 years? We're more of a joke now than we were when we lost 48-0 to UVA on national TV in the last game of our sacred stadium? We're more of a joke now than we were when we were down 52-6 to Kansas State in 2012? Come on. That's simply not true. It CAN'T be true. Nothing could be worse than that, and those games were 5 years apart....we sucked for a few years before UVA and we've sucked for 6 years after K-State.

At least now if you close one eye and look in the right light we've got halfway decent facilities, or at least not the worst in the P5 and one of the worst in the country. I don't necessarily disagree with just about all of what you said, but I think saying we're more of a joke now than at any point in the totally joke filled last 15 years is a little reactionary. It's bad, it's been bad, but it's no worse than it's been.
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Facilities aside...

1. would you rather have those old staffs or this one?

2 . who would win in a game of those teams vs this one?

I think what makes this regime so hard to stomach is knowing we won’t get much better after only 2 months but having 2.5 seasons left on Manny’s contract. Typically, by the time we’ve lost this much hope it’s been several seasons, there’s been BOT leaks and we’re already back-channeling another coach.
 
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dsddcane said:
You do realize mario was on this staff dont you? He was considered our top recruiter before he ever even left for fiu... I understand people here have hatred towards mario because hes a cane where most of them are simply fair weather & he left a dumpster fire spot with alfraud for a serious raise and to work under a man he could actually learn from at the same time. People here need to stop pretending they know **** about ****. Same morons complaining about mario as a game day coach and citing his experience etc are the same people who had the exact arguement for butch... alot of similarities there for plenty of reasons. Anyone stupid enough to think manny is now or ever will be able to become what we need is a blind fool. The man lacks in every category necessary AND when he walks into your living room to close kids parents he has a lisp that sounds eerily similar to Elmer fudd. Fvck outta here with complaining about anyone else while we have our current reality. Just fly yalls **** banners and #DOSOMETHING
P.s. el while u bring up valid points your also undermining your own logic. This man is a horrible recruiter and money doesnt trump evaluations. Something about this town being obsessed with videographers as head coaches is wearing on my nerves. If it's not spoelstra its Elmer here. You say IF Miami made such and such commitment. Well at what point have we had that commitment then since the 90s because we've been exactly what you see from a production standpoint or commitment level since late 90s yet we've NEVER been such a joke. On the field or more accurately in regards to the recruiting stance ur speaking on. Would be great if we were committed as a program but itll be minimal returns so long as we got a staff who brings in projects at every corner and we arent able to coach them up.
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You're arguing points I never made.

My comment was about the fact we don't spend money as a program & therefore our recruiting suffers because of it.

If Mario was our HC but we didn't spend the kind of money they spend at Bama, Oregon etc., then his great recruitng acumen would be in decline because he would have to operate with one hand behind his back.

We could hire Saban here, but guess what if we don't spend the kind money necessary in order for him to succeed he would fail too.

I didn't defend Manny once in my comment, you're arguing against sh*t I didn't say & then acting like that was my point when it wasn't.

The fact is, Miami is a cheap program, the BOT & school administrators do not allocate the funds necessary for us to succeed as a winning program in this new era football. That includes hiring Manny.

An admin that actually gave AF about Football wouldn't have hired Manny after Richt stepped down, that was my overall point. Your response is more aimed at other people, because you completely took what I said out of context & lumped me in with an argument I never made.
 
Mahoney-Pearson said:
Facilities aside...

1. would you rather have those old staffs or this one?

2 . who would win in a game of those teams vs this one?

I think what makes this regime so hard to stomach is knowing we won’t get much better after only 2 months but having 2.5 seasons left on Manny’s contract. Typically, by the time we’ve lost this much hope it’s been several seasons, there’s been BOT leaks and we’re already back-channeling another coach.
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How do you know we won’t get better? And why have you lost hope 6 games into year 1 more than you lost hope with Randy (4-3 in first 7 with a 40 point loss and losses to GT at home and UNC) or Golden (2-3 first 5 in year 1 with losses to Maryland, Kansas State, and VT) or Richt (4 game losing streak in the middle of year 1)?

I’m not defending Manny in any way, I’m just saying it’s kinda silly to say you’ve lost “this much hope” when we’ve lost 3 games by a total of 16 points, beat a ranked team, and are playing one whole senior on the entire 2-deep on offense. I’ve been as critical as anyone, but you’re certain the offense won’t improve over the next 2.5 years when it’s filled with freshmen and sophomores? Ok.
 
brock said:
I certainly have and many others have been talking about his lack of recruiting ability for years
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Both starting safeties are 4*

both starting CB are 4*

Starting striker is Finley a high rated 3* and his backup is Frierson a 4*

Our starting LBs weren't recruited by Manny and we have one 4* backup in Huff

Our starting DE in Garvin is a 4*, our starting DT is a 4*, other is a 3*, and our new starting De is ross is a 3* who we all can say is outplaying his ranking

Our backup CBs are 4*

Our defense is littered with blue chip prospects

If anything our LB recruiting has been average at best
 
Can Manny recruit? No. Can Cristobol recruit at a state school with deep pockets and "bagmen?" Yes. So could Richt.
 
brock said:
I certainly have and many others have been talking about his lack of recruiting ability for years
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Don't we have NFL or likely NFL players at nearly every position the past few years? No we're not getting the elite guys but there are about 5 teams in NCAAF that are getting the elite guys these days and the common denominator with all of the them is they spend ****loads of money on coaches and they all have ca$h to burn on recruits.

I think nearly everyone in this thread needs to STFU and just let Manny succeed or fail. He's here and not going anywhere anytime soon so might as well either support the team or GTFOH and go root for Bama.
 
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Caneman2 said:
Cristobal was 27-47 at FIU.

Mario was seemingly the least popular member of the Alabama staff. He’s not even that good of an OL coach.
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From what i heard they loved mario up there and the kids parents did too. Now maybe you are talking about how fans felt.
 
da truth said:
That was your pick for corch? Seriously? So many better options than Mario
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Pick based on his recruiting ability in South Florida and how funds work at UM. There are better coaches out there but 1) UM hasn’t been able to identify young HC coaching talent when available and 2) no administration backing to spend the $$ needed to get an established coach from a competing program.
 
88 said:
He failed against peer competition... he wasn't playing Oklahoma week in week out. How many coaches have been fired at this level and gone on to do great things?

The good coaches find a way to win.

UAB didn't even have a program 3 years ago and Bill Clark's kicking the crap out of his conference. That's the type of results we should be looking at.

The ONLY reason Mario's being mentioned so much is he played here.
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The guy won his conference at FIU in 2010. FIU was trash when he took over the program in 07. Mario will do well, he has a good staff, and is going to have another great class. There is a Miami commit headed ro Eugene, and I think he flips.
 
Mario was a traitor....

If he had stuck with UM...he could have been here when MR left.....maybe him and Diaz would have teamed up... now that could have also been a successful coaching partnership.

Couple Cubano guys from the Crib.... defending the crib...
 
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