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Manny Suxx MEGA THREAD

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Go Canes!! said:
If you think we can't tear apart their defense, you're stupid. Our offense this year is light years better than last year with Williams at QB
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We didn’t tear apart virginias defense when we put up 19 and they are much worse than Florida’s. Florida’s low point total for A game this year is 38. Have a shred of objectivity
 
Are we really arguing over how bad UF would beat us?

Fvck them.
 
Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
We didn’t tear apart virginias defense when we put up 19 and they are much worse than Florida’s. Florida’s low point total for A game this year is 38. Have a shred of objectivity
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Dude they gave up 600 + yards to Ole Miss and 550 to Texas A&M. Have a shred of objectivity.
 
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Our defensive personnel is either not that good or younger players. I am not concerned about Baker scheme, his playcalling seems to be the issue. But a bigger problem, is the LB, DL and CB coaches imo. They are bigger issues than Baker. When you have SRs ans 5th year SRs making dumb boneheaded mistakes, that's a fundamentals development problem. That's the position coaches responsibilities.
 
If Manny makes some defensive changes in the offseason, then I will say, 'yes,' he is here to win.
 
We should all see the deficiencies in the team and point them out even in a win. Even after being 6-1. Otherwise we never get better.
 
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WhatTheHell said:
*grunt grunt*
"6 and 1"
*throws own ******

The rallying cry of the primitive section of our fanbase. We should always be self-evaluating and always looking at ways we can improve.

I believe Manny sees it this way as he has said as much in the past, and as I said in my OP, he's built a small record of putting this into action so far. He's also a huge fan of Spo and the Heat, and favors a more modern approach to coaching and organizational operations, with a lot of frequent self-evaluation for curing problems, as opposed to the more archaic line of thinking such as "we just aren't executing."

Hopefully Manny continues down his path as a cerebral guy who's searching for ways to improve, instead of acting like some of our fans who are easily content and prefer grunting over a fire with a unibrow while chanting our record.
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And you're the chimp on the other tree that goes...

*grunt grunt*
"canes won game ugly"
*eats your own ******
 
WhatTheHell said:
I once speculated that a major attribute of Manny's which could lead to his potential success as a head coach was his adaptability.

When he was our defensive coordinator, I thought his ability and willingness to identify what wasn't working and quickly rectify the issue was an exciting sign that he was a cerebral guy with a promising future. I think the example I used was his success in fixing his unit's failures on 3rd down in a single off-season by inventing the "striker" position for his defense.

In the subsequent season he improved from 75th in 3rd down defense to 1st in the country. This was extremely promising, as where some older gasbag coaches might just blame execution, Manny appeared to be operating as one of the more modern, analytics-driven type of coaches who is always evaluating without bias and is willing to find an answer to fix a problem or deficiency.

We saw another glimpse of this with the disaster that was the Dan Penos era. After telling the fans he wanted the same thing we did at OC -- uptempo, spread, aggressive, modern -- Manny turned around and hired a dinosaur instead. The rest is history, as Dan Penos and his 1970's playbook helped lead us to a horrendous and boring season filled with several suicidal moments for the taking.

Luckily (and thankfully), once again Manny's willingness to quickly recognize a mistake came into play, as he fired the ever living F out of that imbecile and finally made the correct hire most of us (and he) claimed we wanted the year before. Though he completely and utterly pooped his pants on that hire, his ability to not be stubborn and quickly fix his mistake and the situation was a promising sign.

We are now, however, watching a crucial moment unfold for Manny in this regard. This will be his most important test. He's passed smaller tests on this subject matter, but now he's hearing the boss music start to play as he faces his toughest challenge yet. This is a problem which has plagued several head coaches in the past, and even one particularly bloated piece of human garbage who once roamed the sidelines at Miami. Can Manny Diaz fire a "friend"?

Manny spent several seasons coaching with Blake Baker at La Tech and Texas. While Dan Penos was just some strange grifter off the streets somewhere to Manny, Baker is a colleague and former co-worker he's had a relationship with before bringing him to Miami.

Baker is also a coordinator that just won't cut it if Manny's goal is to lead a program that consistently wins a lot of games and championships. He's going to have to make the ruthless decision all championship coaches have had to at one point or another on their journey to building a juggernaut. Can he be cutthroat and put his feelings aside when he needs to make a necessary move? Can he tell Baker to pack his bags after the season, and find himself the equivalent to Lashlee on the defensive side of the ball? Or will he pull an Al Golden, and go down to the pits of the unemployment line all while holding his buddy's hand?

Does Manny Diaz want to truly win BIG? What he does with Baker will let us know.



*Note: Aside from this, Manny has to do a better job recruiting athletes on defense. That might also force his hand and require making other staff moves at the position coach level, as the recruiting misses rear their ugly head just as much as Blake's terrible calls and schemes. More of his guys need to see the axe on the defensive side of the ball if they continue being incapable of signing the quality of player needed to win titles.
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Mostly agree, but this horse has been beaten to a pulp.

Excited for the athletes we have coming in on defense, they are taking care of business there.
 
6-1 is nice but if they want to keep forward momentum and make the next jump, changes to the defensive staff need to be made. At the very least, even if you’re OK with how the defense has played (they’re not as terrible as some claim but they’ve definitely slipped a notch) there needs to be some changes for the sake of recruiting. What exactly, does Jonathan Patke do? Linebacker play is garbage. Special teams play, outside of the kickers who both transferred here, is garbage. Every kickoff return is called back by a penalty and we still don’t have an actual punt returner after 7 games. He’s contributing nothing to this defense. Rumph’s failures as a recruiter are long documented but at least we were getting good cornerback play for a while. We’re not even getting that anymore. I mean basic fundamentals like using the boundary as a defender and turning your head to make a play on the ball are completely lost on our corners. Not to mention we currently have 0 incoming cornerback recruits.
I am not that “fire the coach” guy but there are definitely some dudes who are not holding up their end of the bargain on the defensive staff. Manny has made the jump from crappy ACC also-ran to solid top 25 team. If he wants to get into that next echelon of schools, he’s going to have to make some tough choices
 
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dirtyred786 said:
Its hard to judge Stroud because of the unorthodoxed defensive scheme we use. The D line is taught to throw all caution to the wind, forget setting edges or gap integrity and get in the backfield.
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The two ends we have playing right don’t set the edge. Previous years we didn’t have a problem setting the edge.
 
After all these years of disappointing seasons, I’ll take the wins. Winning impressively is great, but just winning is still a huge difference over the past years.
 
88 said:
I hope some of y’all don’t own/run businesses

Even when you’re having general success you need to analyze your weak points and come up with a solution before they end up ******** you in the end.

This defense will skate by against NCST but needs a shake up if you want to be in games against the upper echelon teams. It was 7-0 in 13, 10-0 in 17. People on these boards would post those pointless records at anyone that saw a fatal flaw in the team.
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Every single team not named Bama Clemson and OSU have a lot of flaws. I guess I just don’t understand how people think we should be soooooooooo great and beating the doors off everyone and yet that exact thing hasn’t happened on over 20 years. I think people are living to much in the past and haven’t really adopted to what today’s game is. There’s the top 3-5 teams and then there is EVERYONE ELSE.

but let’s keep banging how we should pitch shut out.....cause we’re Miami bro
 
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