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We are last in the universe on 3rd down. That is a fundamental problem when getting first downs is the primary goal on the way to the ultimate TD goal. Wtf is going on here.
 
I would like to hear the Manny and Blake end of season evaluation of the 3rd down conversion issue. Seriously.
 
HarryCarayisGoat said:
Sadly 6-6 gets him one more year. ****
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I don’t know man. Another 6-6 at this point is optimistic. Schedule next year is just easy if not easier than this year. Another 6-6 should be enough evidence to let Manny go, even though we have enough from the past 12 games. Manny has to let Enos go to have any chance.
 
loeTed92 said:
Basically blamed Jarren for offense struggles. Baker is safe. Didn’t mention Enos throughout the call. He’s evaluating the offensive staff and scheme.
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Of course Baker is safe. Him and Baker are butt-buddies. Charlie Strong and others churned out from the coaching carousel out there lurking and Manny doing what every one of our last 4 coaches have done--stick with their failures like it's some ******* marriage vow. Only thing missing was Manny telling us he staying with Baker "for the kids".

What a **** show this has become.
 
Not going to give a "War and Peace" writeup like last time but ill say a few things..

*I didn't get the feeling at all that the offensive staff was safe. I did get the feeling that Baker is his "understudy" somewhat and he has no plans on giving up on him or anyone on the defensive. Which makes sense as those are his "posse" as Phil Jackson would say. As soon as he started rambling off defensive stats and analytics numbers I knew everyone on D was safe. (I alluded to this in another thread. The D in the majority of our games played well enough to win. Herm Edwards said it best yesterday after firing his offensive staff. "You don't win games in college football anymore scoring 20-30ppg. You need to score 30+ to give yourself a shot every week". I agree and I hope Manny saw that quote. We scored 27ppg. Enos gotta go)

*Sounded rattled. Didn't sound confident. Knows tough decisions are coming his way and the administration/BOT wants blood. Not sure why its so hard for him to fire this offensive staff when he literally massacred last years staff in one day and didn't blink twice. That's where he got his "Tony Montana" rep from! Now all of a sudden hes gun shy??

*Sounded like he was out recruiting. Ill say this. He is putting ALOT of weight into this 2020 class. I think someone needs to remind him that while this is a solid class, this isn't like the 2008 class that was the #1 ranked class in the country and had talent from top to bottom. This 2020 class isn't going to save us next year like that 2008 class tried to their freshmen year. A lot of these kids need development. There are some studs but there a lot of guys will be redshirting too. Joe Rose was talking about how you cant fire Manny because of the 2020 kids and how you have to keep this class together. I had to listen closely because for a minute there I thought Justin Flowe and Darnell Washington had committed to us in the middle of the night and I missed it! Smh.

*Same BS all in all.

MY PREDICTION: Enos will be fired after the bowl game. He just cant do it now because he literally has no one else on the staff to call plays. (another poster said this and I made fun of his statement but its true.) He fires Enos now and we could actually lose to Liberty or whoever we play. Gotta use him for now. I also think he fires Barry as well. I think Stubblefield is safe. I think everyone on D is safe. I think Fields is on "probation". But even he is expendable. Hickson is safe as he should be. You pull 2 of the top 10 RBs in the country and you keep your job.
 
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Jassid82 said:
Not going to give a "War and Peace" writeup like last time but ill say a few things..

*I didn't get the feeling at all that the offensive staff was safe. I did get the feeling that Baker is his "understudy" somewhat and he has no plans on giving up on him or anyone on the defensive. Which makes sense as those are his "posse" as Phil Jackson would say. As soon as he started rambling off defensive stats and analytics numbers I knew everyone on D was safe. (I alluded to this in another thread. The D in the majority of our games played well enough to win. Herm Edwards said it best yesterday after firing his offensive staff. "You don't win games in college football anymore scoring 20-30ppg. You need to score 30+ to give yourself a shot every week". I agree and I hope Manny saw that quote. We scored 27ppg. Enos gotta go)

*Sounded rattled. Didn't sound confident. Knows tough decisions are coming his way and the administration/BOT wants blood. Not sure why its so hard for him to fire this offensive staff when he literally massacred last years staff in one day and didn't blink twice. That's where he got his "Tony Montana" rep from! Now all of a sudden hes gun shy??

*Sounded like he was out recruiting. Ill say this. He is putting ALOT of weight into this 2020 class. I think someone needs to remind him that while this is a solid class, this isn't like the 2008 class that was the #1 ranked class in the country and had talent from top to bottom. This 2020 class isn't going to save us next year like that 2008 class tried to their freshmen year. A lot of these kids need development. There are some studs but there a lot of guys will be redshirting too. Joe Rose was talking about how you cant fire Manny because of the 2020 kids and how you have to keep this class together. I had to listen closely because for a minute there I thought Justin Flowe and Darnell Washington had committed to us in the middle of the night and I missed it! Smh.

*Same BS all in all.

MY PREDICTION: Enos will be fired after the bowl game. He just cant do it now because he literally has no one else on the staff to call plays. (another poster said this and I made fun of his statement but its true.) He fires Enos now and we could actually lose to Liberty or whoever we play. Gotta use him for now. I also think he fires Barry as well. I think Stubblefield is safe. I think everyone on D is safe. I think Fields is on "probation". But even he is expendable. Hickson is safe as he should be. You pull 2 of the top 10 RBs in the country and you keep your job.
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This is a person who actually listens and thinks about what was said in that interview. I agree with a lot of what you are saying.
 
Jassid82 said:
Not going to give a "War and Peace" writeup like last time but ill say a few things..

*I didn't get the feeling at all that the offensive staff was safe. I did get the feeling that Baker is his "understudy" somewhat and he has no plans on giving up on him or anyone on the defensive. Which makes sense as those are his "posse" as Phil Jackson would say. As soon as he started rambling off defensive stats and analytics numbers I knew everyone on D was safe. (I alluded to this in another thread. The D in the majority of our games played well enough to win. Herm Edwards said it best yesterday after firing his offensive staff. "You don't win games in college football anymore scoring 20-30ppg. You need to score 30+ to give yourself a shot every week". I agree and I hope Manny saw that quote. We scored 27ppg. Enos gotta go)

*Sounded rattled. Didn't sound confident. Knows tough decisions are coming his way and the administration/BOT wants blood. Not sure why its so hard for him to fire this offensive staff when he literally massacred last years staff in one day and didn't blink twice. That's where he got his "Tony Montana" rep from! Now all of a sudden hes gun shy??

*Sounded like he was out recruiting. Ill say this. He is putting ALOT of weight into this 2020 class. I think someone needs to remind him that while this is a solid class, this isn't like the 2008 class that was the #1 ranked class in the country and had talent from top to bottom. This 2020 class isn't going to save us next year like that 2008 class tried to their freshmen year. A lot of these kids need development. There are some studs but there a lot of guys will be redshirting too. Joe Rose was talking about how you cant fire Manny because of the 2020 kids and how you have to keep this class together. I had to listen closely because for a minute there I thought Justin Flowe and Darnell Washington had committed to us in the middle of the night and I missed it! Smh.

*Same BS all in all.

MY PREDICTION: Enos will be fired after the bowl game. He just cant do it now because he literally has no one else on the staff to call plays. (another poster said this and I made fun of his statement but its true.) He fires Enos now and we could actually lose to Liberty or whoever we play. Gotta use him for now. I also think he fires Barry as well. I think Stubblefield is safe. I think everyone on D is safe. I think Fields is on "probation". But even he is expendable. Hickson is safe as he should be. You pull 2 of the top 10 RBs in the country and you keep your job.
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I get the whole no one to call plays but really would the combo of Stubblefield, Hickson and Field be worse? We might play UCF or Louisiana Tech. They're killing us either way. Not to mention people are making moves now. Not a time to fall behind if a move is actually going to get made
 
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Jassid82 said:
Not going to give a "War and Peace" writeup like last time but ill say a few things..

*I didn't get the feeling at all that the offensive staff was safe. I did get the feeling that Baker is his "understudy" somewhat and he has no plans on giving up on him or anyone on the defensive. Which makes sense as those are his "posse" as Phil Jackson would say. As soon as he started rambling off defensive stats and analytics numbers I knew everyone on D was safe. (I alluded to this in another thread. The D in the majority of our games played well enough to win. Herm Edwards said it best yesterday after firing his offensive staff. "You don't win games in college football anymore scoring 20-30ppg. You need to score 30+ to give yourself a shot every week". I agree and I hope Manny saw that quote. We scored 27ppg. Enos gotta go)

*Sounded rattled. Didn't sound confident. Knows tough decisions are coming his way and the administration/BOT wants blood. Not sure why its so hard for him to fire this offensive staff when he literally massacred last years staff in one day and didn't blink twice. That's where he got his "Tony Montana" rep from! Now all of a sudden hes gun shy??

*Sounded like he was out recruiting. Ill say this. He is putting ALOT of weight into this 2020 class. I think someone needs to remind him that while this is a solid class, this isn't like the 2008 class that was the #1 ranked class in the country and had talent from top to bottom. This 2020 class isn't going to save us next year like that 2008 class tried to their freshmen year. A lot of these kids need development. There are some studs but there a lot of guys will be redshirting too. Joe Rose was talking about how you cant fire Manny because of the 2020 kids and how you have to keep this class together. I had to listen closely because for a minute there I thought Justin Flowe and Darnell Washington had committed to us in the middle of the night and I missed it! Smh.

*Same BS all in all.

MY PREDICTION: Enos will be fired after the bowl game. He just cant do it now because he literally has no one else on the staff to call plays. (another poster said this and I made fun of his statement but its true.) He fires Enos now and we could actually lose to Liberty or whoever we play. Gotta use him for now. I also think he fires Barry as well. I think Stubblefield is safe. I think everyone on D is safe. I think Fields is on "probation". But even he is expendable. Hickson is safe as he should be. You pull 2 of the top 10 RBs in the country and you keep your job.
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Joe's CTE kicks in all the time. There's never an opportune time to fire your HC in college football. No matter the time, it'll always have an affect on your recruiting class. It's what Golden hitched his wagon onto for awhile as I remember his biggest supporters citing that we had the #1 ranked class for '16 (not sure where that class ended up, but it **** sure wasn't top 5).

In terms of Baker and the rest of the defensive staff, Manny's just like Golden. Those are his boys and thus he's going to make every excuse in the book for them and their lackluster results. This is why I'm thankful that we've been through some horrible staffs, because we now see all of the warning signs in year 1, rather then in years 3 and 4.
 
fincane said:
I get the whole no one to call plays but really would the combo of Stubblefield, Hickson and Field be worse? We might play UCF or Louisiana Tech. They're killing us either way. Not to mention people are making moves now. Not a time to fall behind if a move is actually going to get made
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I honestly don't think those guys even know where to find the playbook! Lol. And I agree with you. But you know how Manny thinks, if he can win this bowl game it can give him something to go into the offseason with to hang his hat on. (embarassing to even think this way I know) A 3 game losing streak for yet another season wont bode well at the fundraiser banquets in the offseason.

And to your point, if we play UCF, we are definitely losing that game. I pray we don't land them. To lose to UF, FIU and UCF in the same season would be too embarrassing to bare. The "Big 3" jokes would be too much to take. It would take an undefeated regular season next year for Manny to get that memory out of our heads. So lets hope its La Tech.
 
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