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bacane said:
If Diaz & Co. are now talking about accountability - buzz word after VaTech mess - no way in **** you yank Perry and re-insert Williams. Talk about sending mixed message. Players aren't stupid. Can't pull Perry after managing a win and give the job back to Williams whose 3 picks buried you against VaTech.
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This will put us exactly where we were with Rosier last year...
 
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GodsMan said:
Perry has to start, you have to admit that below is glaring with him not playing two full games and only having one week of preparation as a starter for this team:

Williams, who has an injury to his throwing shoulder, had completed 89 of 124 passes (71.8 percent) for 1,074 yards, seven touchdowns in his five starts — along with the three interceptions he threw before he was pulled in the first quarter from the Oct. 5 game against Virginia Tech. He has been sacked 19 times for 123 yards lost.
Perry has played in three games this season, going 51 of 84 (60.7 percent) for 1,074 yards and six touchdowns and one interception. He has been sacked nine times for 51 yards lost.

60.7 is good, and to have the same amount of yards, with 38 less completions, 1 less touchdown, and less negative yards from sacks means more dynamic offense under Perry. I know Williams is good but if you develop Perry the way you developed Hurts the next couple years you know he has more upside than even what Hurts was as a passer. His timing with the receivers will come as well. The offense went stagnant after 3 straight drops on his second drive. All accurate balls clearly dropped and the momentum did as well. He came out the gate sniping both drives the second had drops where the first didn't.
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How you came up with Perry has 1074 yards passing? What type of math did you do?
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Kendall Boy Cane said:
You're attributing most of the offensive inefficiencies on Friday to Perry? Multiple drops and we were consistently starting 2nd & long...
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Far from doing that. Just pointing out the hypocrisy that the offense moves better. To me this goes beyond the qb play of why the offense struggles at times. So it’s not a Perry or Jarren only issue which people tried to portray it as like Jarren was the reason we lost vs uf or unc, no he wasn’t. For the first time all year the defense showed up and performed well in the redzone which was certainly non existent in the first 5 games
 
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brock said:
Far from doing that. Just pointing out the hypocrisy that the offense moves better. To me this goes beyond the qb play of why the offense struggles at times. So it’s not a Perry or Jarren only issue which people tried to portray it as like Jarren was the reason we lost vs uf or unc, no he wasn’t. For the first time all year the defense showed up and performed well in the redzone which was certainly non existent in the first 5 games
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This is the correct take. But we need to seriously question Jarren's arm because we saw a full 4Qs with Kosi and Enos consistently tried to push the ball down field. Maybe it's just Kosi's natural inclination to look for the deep ball but we threw it long more vs. UVA than we did combined against the other P5 teams we played (or so it seems).
 
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Kendall Boy Cane said:
This is the correct take. But we need to seriously question Jarren's arm because we saw a full 4Qs with Kosi and Enos consistently tried to push the ball down field. Maybe it's just Kosi's natural inclination to look for the deep ball but we threw it long more vs. UVA than we did combined against the other P5 teams we played (or so it seems).
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Why would we seriously question jarrens arm just because we HAD to throw down the field to get back in it vs va tech? It was literally the only plays they could call at that point.

And No we actually didn’t throw it long more vs uva , we threw just 4 deep balls over 20 yards vs uva completing just 1 of those. Had 4-5 to 5 balls over 20 yards vs Unc and had 2 passes in his 7 attempts over 20 yards vs va tech( 1 pass to Brevin and an underthrow to Wiggins). Either way we are missing the deep ball regardless of qb playing and it needs to be fixed
 
brock said:
No we actually didn’t, we threw just 4 deep balls over 20 yards vs uva completing just 1 of those. Had 4-5 to 5 balls over 20 yards vs Unc and had 2 passes in his 7 attempts over 20 yards vs va tech( 1 pass to Brevin and an underthrow to Wiggins). Either way we are missing the deep ball regardless of qb playing and it needs to be fixed
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Miami ain't going go vertical with this current offensive line.:ttdg2m10mxvzxan.jpg: No matter who the QB is on game day.
 
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brock said:
Why would we seriously question jarrens arm just because we HAD to throw down the field to get back in it vs va tech? It was literally the only plays they could call at that point.

And No we actually didn’t throw it long more vs uva , we threw just 4 deep balls over 20 yards vs uva completing just 1 of those. Had 4-5 to 5 balls over 20 yards vs Unc and had 2 passes in his 7 attempts over 20 yards vs va tech( 1 pass to Brevin and an underthrow to Wiggins). Either way we are missing the deep ball regardless of qb playing and it needs to be fixed
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Agreed but if arm strength and willingness to stretch the field comes with playing Perry (assuming it doesn't with JW), the diminishing returns on Jarren's accuracy compared to Kosi will start to show.
 
brock said:
I agree With that. Just wish we had that type of defensive performance the first 2 losses of the season, **** even against va tech because as you said if we stopped them for 1 field goal instead of allowing 6 redzone trips for 6 tds vs them we would have won that game
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I wish it too Brock. I wish it too. Would be much nicer to be 4-2 or than 3-3 with 2 conference losses, i mean captain obvious statement of the year right.
 
Williams never should of been out there for VT with the injury . Perry is the guy as long as the shoulder isn't 100% but once it is Williams is a much better QB. **** he has looked better then any QB ( take away VT due to injury) then any QB we have had in year and years. You start Williams IF healthy.
 
canecat said:
Williams never should of been out there for VT with the injury . Perry is the guy as long as the shoulder isn't 100% but once it is Williams is a much better QB. **** he has looked better then any QB ( take away VT due to injury) then any QB we have had in year and years. You start Williams IF healthy.
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tell me how good he looked vs BC? how about CMU before this mysterious injury, guy has gotten worse every game now that coaches know how to game plan him.
Bud Foster said the guy was a joke
 
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