Lowered Expectations...

We pay more $ for coaches than UVA, Duke and GT. We have had and for the foreseeable future, will have significantly more talent than them. We still lost to them. Get a competent coaching staff in and we’ll be winning at minimum 9-10 games every year and we will get top 10 recruiting classes like last year.Do that consistently and we can compete on a national level again. We don’t need “bags” or Nick Saban to beat Duke.

You're right, we don't need bags to beat Duke. The end-goal isn't beatinf teams like Duke though. The end-goal is to beat teams like Clemson and in order to do that we will need bags, and a lot of them.
 
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Duke kicked our ***, dropped a big deuce on our 50 yard line and rubbed our noses in it...and aside from our fans...I didn’t see anyone care about it. So we aren’t even at Dukes level...more like temple actually. I do think Manny cares and has the right attitude to get us going in the right direction...And to get the kids to care again.
really a guy who just got his dream job has made 2 hires 1 considered one of best s&c coaches but those in the know meaning not idiot fans who have 0 clue and 1 who despite have bottom 4 resources in all football managed to put a top 40 d in s& p on field we don't know rest of hires but yea a Miami kid who dreamed of one day being canes coach doesn't care how stupid can people on this board be
 
Man stop hyping . We are one competent OC and an elite difference maker at QB away . Every team in the playoff or contending has elite QB play, something we don’t have . We just went 10-3 last year with Malik Rosier at QB and yal acting like we’ll never sniff the playoffs. Talkin bout lower your expectations man cut it out
 
Roid rage is a myth that has been debunked many many times.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8855834

Anyone who thinks steroids don’t make you a **** of a lot stronger, faster, and more aggressive has never done steroids. Period.

The difference between being on steroids and off them is mind-blowingly insane.

You could take a team like Duke and make the CFP next year if every one of their kids had free access to all the steroids available out there today. They’re that powerful.
 
Man stop hyping . We are one competent OC and an elite difference maker at QB away . Every team in the playoff or contending has elite QB play, something we don’t have . We just went 10-3 last year with Malik Rosier at QB and yal acting like we’ll never sniff the playoffs. Talkin bout lower your expectations man cut it out

It’s like the season ends, and everyone gets amnesia. I’m jealous. Must be nice to have so much hope.

There’s a lot more wrong with our team than just a QB and a “competent” OC.
 
Guess what. The administration has never liked the football program. We had an athletic director that got it and brought in some exceptional coaches that built this program. We are a coach away from competing. But yes we are way behind Clemson and Bama right now. No kidding.
 
OP and about half the posters on this site act like prison bltches that take it in the ***.

Miami’s failures have been due to not recognizing changes in the CFB marketplace and planning and implementing accordingly.

While the major obstacle will be not having anywhere near the monetary resources of the top 10 P5 financial powerhouses, there are other advantages Miami has that are unique only to itself.

When we get a staff that can effectively take advantage of those unique resources, and consistently win, the entire picture will change. While we still may miss out on the families looking to get paid, there are other 4 stars out there.

Winning is the key.

Manny was not my first choice, but I can tell he’s smart enough to understand what needs to be done. Whether he can actually get it done is another matter.

But eventually, someone will crack the code and we’ll be back in contention. Maybe not like 80’s/90’s where we were playing for a ship, or close, practically every ear, but contending for playoffs regularly.
 
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If you consider a top-100 school to be elite, then OK.

Let’s hope you’re right about Manny. I’m hoping, but not expecting.

Yes I do consider a school in the Top-100 out of like 4,000 University's to be elite.

I expect Manny to win the games we are suppose to. That would mean us in the ACCCG regularly and competing for a playoff spot. Us being in the CFP is a realistic expectation in the next 3 years. I refuse to let the Miami standard drop.
 
Huh. What is with some of you and massive conspiracy theories. Easy to tell who did and didn't attend UM

Except I did attend UM, so your radar is busted.

If I didn't attend UM, I would have given up on this team 10 years ago. I'm not stupid. I know Miami isn't winning championships ever again. It's the fact that I went there that makes me hope against reason, and that's why I keep wasting money on flights and tickets to Miami to see them play.
 
Anyone who thinks steroids don’t make you a **** of a lot stronger, faster, and more aggressive has never done steroids. Period.

The difference between being on steroids and off them is mind-blowingly insane.

You could take a team like Duke and make the CFP next year if every one of their kids had free access to all the steroids available out there today. They’re that powerful.

Where did I say they don't make you stronger or faster? Anyone with a brain knows this. However, roid rage is a myth. Plain and simple. Just because your buddy on juice says its true, doesn't make it true.
 
The right coach can turn it around but Miami will have to strike gold like Clemson did.
 
My expectations have never been lowered. I expect the Canes to win every game. Number of disappointments are way too high.
 
OP and about half the posters on this site act like prison bltches that take it in the ***.

Miami’s failures have been due to not recognizing changes in the CFB marketplace and planning and implementing accordingly.

While the major obstacle will be not having anywhere near the monetary resources of the top 10 P5 financial powerhouses, there are other advantages Miami has that are unique only to itself.

When we get a staff that can effectively take advantage of those unique resources, and consistently win, the entire picture will change. While we still may miss out on the families looking to get paid, there are other 4 stars out there.

Winning is the key.

Manny was not my first choice, but I can tell he’s smart enough to understand what needs to be done. Whether he can actually get it done is another matter.

But eventually, someone will crack the code and we’ll be back in contention. Maybe not like 80’s/90’s where we were playing for a ship, or close, practically every ear, but contending for playoffs regularly.

This is football, not advanced cryptography. There's no "code," my dude.

That is to say, what needs to be done is obvious. Miami has done it before, in the 80's and 90's. And that's what frustrates me as a fan.... it's clear that we're not willing to do what it takes anymore.

Back in the 80's, UM did more steroids than the Bulgarian swim team. We had trainers who would literally shoot the kids up.

We had the best coaches in America... coaches who would go on to win Super Bowls, or who had already won Super Bowls. We had position coaches who would go on to become head coaches in college and the NFL. We had elite, forward-thinking schemes.

We dropped more bags than Samsonite. We literally ran one of the dirtiest programs in the history of college football.

We got that reputation for a reason - it was true.

Now, Miami has tried to distance itself from the past. They've tried to whitewash it. They've put lies out there like "Tad Foote hated football," "Miami was never thug U", etc.

But those of us who remember, we remember.

We ran a program that would make any team in the SEC today blush. We did everything it took to pick our program up from being a nobody to being the greatest there ever was. We gave no *****, and we reaped the rewards.

We'll never do that again. Today's Miami is a pussified, neutered, bland, boring, loser institution. They're not good at anything, and they're mediocre at everything.

It is what it is.
 
First of all - most forget that even when we were "the team" .... we still had challenges
- 2001 Team SHOULD have lost at BC and also Va Tech

Second - being back is about getting to the playoffs - last year we were a game away from doing that even though
- Lost our best player (walton) early in the year
- Had a VERY subpar QB and weak OL
- Lost our best WR and TE late in the year
- Had a weak head coach, OL coach and apparently strength coach

You fix a few of the above and my friends are you are playing Clemson close in the 4th qtr and then anything can happen
Exactly. Some of these guys just ignore last year like it never happened. Everyone complains that "Richt was incompetent" and "Malik Rosier was the worst QB in Miami history" but then in the same breath they claim "Miami will never be back." Well that incompetent coach and worst QB in Miami history had the Canes 10-0 and #2 in the country last year dealing with all the issues mentioned above.

Miami hasn't even really been trying to win and we almost backed doored our way into the CFB playoffs. You're telling me if we actually get our crap together, hire a competent OC, and recruit a half way decent QB we won't win? Get out of here.
 
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The right coach can turn it around but Miami will have to strike gold like Clemson did.

Clemson didn't strike gold when they hired Brent Venables. He was the best DC in college football before they hired him.

They didn't strike gold when they built the best facilities in the ACC, or when they hired the best position coaches. They didn't strike gold when they dropped bags like crazy for recruits.

They did what had to be done to get to where they are. It was planned, deliberate, and the results totally flow from the work and investment they pt in. There was very little luck involved.
 
This is football, not advanced cryptography. There's no "code," my dude.

That is to say, what needs to be done is obvious. Miami has done it before, in the 80's and 90's. And that's what frustrates me as a fan.... it's clear that we're not willing to do what it takes anymore.

Back in the 80's, UM did more steroids than the Bulgarian swim team. We had trainers who would literally shoot the kids up.

We had the best coaches in America... coaches who would go on to win Super Bowls, or who had already won Super Bowls. We had position coaches who would go on to become head coaches in college and the NFL. We had elite, forward-thinking schemes.

We dropped more bags than Samsonite. We literally ran one of the dirtiest programs in the history of college football.

We got that reputation for a reason - it was true.

Now, Miami has tried to distance itself from the past. They've tried to whitewash it. They've put lies out there like "Tad Foote hated football," "Miami was never thug U", etc.

But those of us who remember, we remember.

We ran a program that would make any team in the SEC today blush. We did everything it took to pick our program up from being a nobody to being the greatest there ever was. We gave no *****, and we reaped the rewards.

We'll never do that again. Today's Miami is a pussified, neutered, bland, boring, loser institution. They're not good at anything, and they're mediocre at everything.

It is what it is.

I’m not your dude...and you know nothing about Miami.

You sound like a troll that wants everyone to give up.

Go ahead and be the quitter and loser you want, or the gator troll that you probably are, but stop acting like you know what’s going to happen. You don’t.
 
This is football, not advanced cryptography. There's no "code," my dude.

That is to say, what needs to be done is obvious. Miami has done it before, in the 80's and 90's. And that's what frustrates me as a fan.... it's clear that we're not willing to do what it takes anymore.

Back in the 80's, UM did more steroids than the Bulgarian swim team. We had trainers who would literally shoot the kids up.

We had the best coaches in America... coaches who would go on to win Super Bowls, or who had already won Super Bowls. We had position coaches who would go on to become head coaches in college and the NFL. We had elite, forward-thinking schemes.

We dropped more bags than Samsonite. We literally ran one of the dirtiest programs in the history of college football.

We got that reputation for a reason - it was true.

Now, Miami has tried to distance itself from the past. They've tried to whitewash it. They've put lies out there like "Tad Foote hated football," "Miami was never thug U", etc.

But those of us who remember, we remember.

We ran a program that would make any team in the SEC today blush. We did everything it took to pick our program up from being a nobody to being the greatest there ever was. We gave no *****, and we reaped the rewards.

We'll never do that again. Today's Miami is a pussified, neutered, bland, boring, loser institution. They're not good at anything, and they're mediocre at everything.

It is what it is.

You weren't even born in the 80s(and if you were, you weren't old enough to watch football). What makes you an expert on how things were run in the 80s.
 
Miami has invested the most money I can remember over the last 5-8 years in football.Our last two coaches had ego issues on their side of the ball and I feel it hindered the teams from making a jump.We have had on avg the 3rd ranked classes in the ACC, so its not the joes,but more the egos. Manny seems to be open-minded and the type of guy to fix something that isn't working.I think we should focus more on developing local talent regardless of the star rating.The going line is a 3* in South Florida is a 4 star elsewhere, but when we grab these 3 star players its called a "reach".
 
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