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Looks like we getting a indoor practice facility

Jeeperaf said:
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Jeeperaf said:
77cane said:
Jeeperaf said:
Let's walk through this a minute...

Just because every p5 school has one doesn't make it a requirement. Now, for northern schools, yes, I can see the absolute weather advantages of having an IPF...no question.

Southern schools, especially the closer to latitudes of Miami, have a tougher sell from the basis of weather alone (even with our SoFla rain storms).

So, other than "we have to have one because Bama does", what pros/cons does an IPF, at a rumored $28M, really bring to Miami?

Here's what I offer:

Pros
- Sited on Greentree, so really just covering existing practice space
- unquestioned all-weather practice flexibility
- does bring a "wow" factor to the infrastructure offerings of the program

Cons
- $28m that COULD POSSIBLY be spent to address other program needs (don't know what they are, but satellite camps will be $$$$)
- sustainment costs now added to a private university's o&m budget without deeper resources to offset/pay


I think I heard this phrase somewhere before...but...if fans don't think that the organizational design amd resourcing of a program arent just as critical as the actual players and on field performance for the long term success of said program...i don't know what to tell you...
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If someone donates for the IPF, then that is where the money has to go.
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Totally understand the specified donation part...my point was...

Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?
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"Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?"

You're a little dense aren't you? How about what the the top 2 football people have to say? Richt and James, who know more about the program and its needs than you, and whose employment future and reputation depend on the success of the program, see this as their number 1 priority in terms of logistical needs.

So meeting what they prioritize as a need is a little more important than the imagined needs of some dumbass jamoche on a message board.
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Wow Princess!!! Look at you putting on your big girl Dora The Explorer undies! Aren't you cute.

Looky here you fuqn cretin little troll. Feel tough behind your clickity-clack keyboad? Bet you $1 you don't have the courage to talk to any little old grandma like that let alone anyone else.

Tool.

If you read what I posted (you might need the crayon version..I'll use smaller words), I was just asking if anyone thought there was a better use of $28M for the program. In fact, I even said I didn't know what they might even be.

It's called a conversation that adults have.

You, on the other hand, are apparantly (that means you seem like...do you even have a GED?) to dense to get that.

Fuqn tool.

Debate me...point for point. I fuqn DARE you.

Now the little girl's room is down tha hall and to the left. Remember to sit down when you pee-pee.

Douche bag.
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Dude makes a GED joke while spelling the word apparently wrong in the same sentence. You cannot make this tough guy message board stuff up haha!
 
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Timcanes...

Add yourself to list...

My bad having large hands typing on small smartphone keyboard...apologies on offending your clearly superior command of the English native tongue...

Ever look in a mirror?
 
Those that don't recognize an IPF is essential in today's college football simply have their heads up where the sun don't shine.

Not only is it essential because of lightning storms, but it is essential to get the players out of the energy sapping sun 2-3 days a week. Not missing any practices due to lightning and getting out of the blistering @ss sun a couple times a week will result in a better prepared and more energized team on game day. Mark Richt said the same in an interview. All these other teams in college football wouldn't have one if it wasn't the case. Before any old school guy comes on here and say's IPF's are for pu$$ies, well I am old school, and times have changed.

Maybe some should take into account why this team shows up less energized on game day than the opponents are as well. That wasn't just the players knowledge that they had **** pore coaches slowing them down. That is also the lack of an IPF causing additional problems.
 
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5NC4 said:
Those that don't recognize an IPF is essential in today's college football simply have their heads up where the sun don't shine.

Not only is it essential because of lightning storms, but it is essential to get the players out of the energy sapping sun 2-3 days a week. Not missing any practices due to lightning and getting out of the blistering @ss sun a couple times a week will result in a better prepared and more energized team on game day. Mark Richt said the same in an interview. All these other teams in college football wouldn't have one if it wasn't the case. Before any old school guy comes on here and say's IPF's are for pu$$ies, well I am old school, and times have changed.

Maybe some should take into account why this team shows up less energized on game day than the opponents are as well. That wasn't just the players knowledge that they had **** pore coaches slowing them down. That is also the lack of an IPF causing additional problems.
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Wow. Ridiculous post.
 
5NC4 said:
Those that don't recognize an IPF is essential in today's college football simply have their heads up where the sun don't shine.

Not only is it essential because of lightning storms, but it is essential to get the players out of the energy sapping sun 2-3 days a week. Not missing any practices due to lightning and getting out of the blistering @ss sun a couple times a week will result in a better prepared and more energized team on game day. Mark Richt said the same in an interview. All these other teams in college football wouldn't have one if it wasn't the case. Before any old school guy comes on here and say's IPF's are for pu$$ies, well I am old school, and times have changed.

Maybe some should take into account why this team shows up less energized on game day than the opponents are as well. That wasn't just the players knowledge that they had **** pore coaches slowing them down. That is also the lack of an IPF causing additional problems.
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This makes no sense at all.

First of all, an IPF is essential for having practices when lighting is a problem with all the NCAA rules that entails because having a hurried practice in a domed bubble is better than having no practice at all. Second of all, it evidently matters to recruits and I'll gladly add an IPF if it helps land some kids.

But are you really complaining about the heat? It's Miami. It's been one of our hometown advantages when we've played games. Training under more difficult conditions than other teams leads to being in better shape and better condition than your opponent. ("A 1:00 o'clock game in Miami is a 7 point advantage." -Howard Schnellenberger) And you want to move practice inside because you think that hot outdoor practices on a Thursday morning is why we played with no fire or energy on a Saturday night? Then why did all the heyday teams not encounter this problem of having low energy on game day? You're reaching badly there and selling the players short.

IPF's aren't for pussies at all. They maximize getting practices in to avoid lightning (again a bigger problem in Miami than 95% of other schools) and they impress recruits but to want an IPF to avoid the sun's beating rays when that same sun was an asset many times over is an awful idea. Unless someone's health is genuinely at risk (looking at you, George O'Leary) than we should embrace the heat.
 
So then why does Richt insist on using the Wellness Center to get out of the heat? Is it because he is used to the 68 degree Summers up north in icy Georgia?
He knows that you need at least a day or two for bodies to recover.
 
There's a balance to getting conditioned to the heat and getting worn out, but practicing lighter later in the week would probably accomplish the same thing as an IPF from that standpoint. The biggest difference between practicing now and back in the 80's is the lightning rules. I don't think pushing for an IPF, just because of the heat, would get it done, but the lightning issue is huge.
 
TheEye said:
So then why does Richt insist on using the Wellness Center to get out of the heat? Is it because he is used to the 68 degree Summers up north in icy Georgia?
He knows that you need at least a day or two for bodies to recover.
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Or it's because mat drills are better served when done on an actual mat instead of a grassy field.

Actual live football activities are done on the field where the game is actually played in heat unless and only if lightning comes in to play where ideally we'd be able to waltz into our IPF and pick up where we left off but for now we just have have to scrap the rest of practice.
 
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If it is 100 plus degrees outside and you think it's okay for Miami to practice in that temperature of heat then your are out of your **** mind. That's how players can dehydrate and get heat strokes easily. In that case yeah it would be great to go in and practice in the indoor facility on a extremely hot day. Not to mention it enables you the ability to finish any practice no matter weather conditions. All in all we need this more than anyone in college football when you consider the south fla climate
 
I'm a firm believer in practicing in the environment you're gonna play in. Now if it's like a day or 2 it's ok. I just don't agree doing math homework with s calculator if the professor isn't letting you use the calculator in the exams.
 
brock said:
If it is 100 plus degrees outside and you think it's okay for Miami to practice in that temperature of heat then your are out of your **** mind. That's how players can dehydrate and get heat strokes easily. In that case yeah it would be great to go in and practice in the indoor facility on a extremely hot day. Not to mention it enables you the ability to finish any practice no matter weather conditions. All in all we need this more than anyone in college football when you consider the south fla climate
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Those 1980-2004 teams didn't seem to have players dropping dead of heat strokes left and right. I'm relatively sure that it was 100 degrees multiple times over that span. And the heat made us in to better shape than our opponents. (See Schnellenberger quote). The IPF's greatest contribution would be no more lost practices due to lightning which we deal with more of than any other D-1 team other than USF. I'm so tired of only getting 75% of the practice time in that other schools do.
 
TedHendricksOffspring said:
brock said:
If it is 100 plus degrees outside and you think it's okay for Miami to practice in that temperature of heat then your are out of your **** mind. That's how players can dehydrate and get heat strokes easily. In that case yeah it would be great to go in and practice in the indoor facility on a extremely hot day. Not to mention it enables you the ability to finish any practice no matter weather conditions. All in all we need this more than anyone in college football when you consider the south fla climate
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Those 1980-2004 teams didn't seem to have players dropping dead of heat strokes left and right. I'm relatively sure that it was 100 degrees multiple times over that span. And the heat made us in to better shape than our opponents. (See Schnellenberger quote). The IPF's greatest contribution would be no more lost practices due to lightning which we deal with more of than any other D-1 team other than USF. I'm so tired of only getting 75% of the practice time in that other schools do.
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Yes, but sports got pu**ified these days
 
Lol at everyone thinking we will use the ipf for every practice.....

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Seriously how often are they practicing in 100 degree weather anyway? almost never. During the school year they practice in the mornings, when it isn't 100 degrees outside. In the summer sure it can get hot as ****, and if they really are worried about it being too hot they can go inside to practice. But if its in the low 90's and no thunderstorm there is no reason to practice in an ipf. its like saying go inside to the ipf for every time it rains in practice...it would make no sense. because if you don't practice in the rain, how will you be prepared to play in the rain?
 
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I would hope it's only used when they aren't allowed to practice due to lightning in the area.

During our good days, we thrived in the heat while others wilted. Under the last coach and to some degree Shannon, we were often the team cramping more often than not.
 
LOL at the dopes who don't understand the obvious advantage of keeping the team fresh by not conducting EVERY practice in the blistering summer heat. You can prepare for and use the heat to your advantage without practicing in it EVERY day.

In fact, there is a point of diminishing returns if you're in that heat every day. It's the same theory behind most teams abandoning the antiquated practices of water deprivation and full blown contact in every practice. You wear guys out in the foolish attempt to make them tough.
 
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LOL at the dopes who don't understand the obvious advantage of keeping the team fresh by not conducting EVERY practice in the blistering summer heat. You can prepare for and use the heat to your advantage without practicing in it EVERY day.

In fact, there is a point of diminishing returns if you're in that heat every day. It's the same theory behind most teams abandoning the antiquated practices of water deprivation and full blown contact in every practice. You wear guys out in the foolish attempt to make them tough.
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Oh man i remember those no water days in august....wtf were they thinking.
 
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