Looks like we getting a indoor practice facility

[77cane]

Every single school in the p5 has one or plans to build one, I don't see how somebody could logically deem it unnecessary.

Let's walk through this a minute...

Just because every p5 school has one doesn't make it a requirement. Now, for northern schools, yes, I can see the absolute weather advantages of having an IPF...no question.

Southern schools, especially the closer to latitudes of Miami, have a tougher sell from the basis of weather alone (even with our SoFla rain storms).

So, other than "we have to have one because Bama does", what pros/cons does an IPF, at a rumored $28M, really bring to Miami?

Here's what I offer:

Pros
- Sited on Greentree, so really just covering existing practice space
- unquestioned all-weather practice flexibility
- does bring a "wow" factor to the infrastructure offerings of the program

Cons
- $28m that COULD POSSIBLY be spent to address other program needs (don't know what they are, but satellite camps will be $$$$)
- sustainment costs now added to a private university's o&m budget without deeper resources to offset/pay


I think I heard this phrase somewhere before...but...if fans don't think that the organizational design amd resourcing of a program arent just as critical as the actual players and on field performance for the long term success of said program...i don't know what to tell you...

If someone donates for the IPF, then that is where the money has to go.

 

[sebastiansbill]

Does any other FBS team not have an indoor facility? This is embarrassing.

 

[Jeeperaf]

Every single school in the p5 has one or plans to build one, I don't see how somebody could logically deem it unnecessary.

Let's walk through this a minute...

Just because every p5 school has one doesn't make it a requirement. Now, for northern schools, yes, I can see the absolute weather advantages of having an IPF...no question.

Southern schools, especially the closer to latitudes of Miami, have a tougher sell from the basis of weather alone (even with our SoFla rain storms).

So, other than "we have to have one because Bama does", what pros/cons does an IPF, at a rumored $28M, really bring to Miami?

Here's what I offer:

Pros
- Sited on Greentree, so really just covering existing practice space
- unquestioned all-weather practice flexibility
- does bring a "wow" factor to the infrastructure offerings of the program

Cons
- $28m that COULD POSSIBLY be spent to address other program needs (don't know what they are, but satellite camps will be $$$$)
- sustainment costs now added to a private university's o&m budget without deeper resources to offset/pay


I think I heard this phrase somewhere before...but...if fans don't think that the organizational design amd resourcing of a program arent just as critical as the actual players and on field performance for the long term success of said program...i don't know what to tell you...

If someone donates for the IPF, then that is where the money has to go.

Totally understand the specified donation part...my point was...

Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Every single school in the p5 has one or plans to build one, I don't see how somebody could logically deem it unnecessary.

Let's walk through this a minute...

Just because every p5 school has one doesn't make it a requirement. Now, for northern schools, yes, I can see the absolute weather advantages of having an IPF...no question.

Southern schools, especially the closer to latitudes of Miami, have a tougher sell from the basis of weather alone (even with our SoFla rain storms).

So, other than "we have to have one because Bama does", what pros/cons does an IPF, at a rumored $28M, really bring to Miami?

Here's what I offer:

Pros
- Sited on Greentree, so really just covering existing practice space
- unquestioned all-weather practice flexibility
- does bring a "wow" factor to the infrastructure offerings of the program

Cons
- $28m that COULD POSSIBLY be spent to address other program needs (don't know what they are, but satellite camps will be $$$$)
- sustainment costs now added to a private university's o&m budget without deeper resources to offset/pay


I think I heard this phrase somewhere before...but...if fans don't think that the organizational design amd resourcing of a program arent just as critical as the actual players and on field performance for the long term success of said program...i don't know what to tell you...

If someone donates for the IPF, then that is where the money has to go.

Totally understand the specified donation part...my point was...

Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?

"Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?"

You're a little dense aren't you? How about what the the top 2 football people have to say? Richt and James, who know more about the program and its needs than you, and whose employment future and reputation depend on the success of the program, see this as their number 1 priority in terms of logistical needs.

So meeting what they prioritize as a need is a little more important than the imagined needs of some dumbass jamoche on a message board.

 

[AK_Cane]

Every single school in the p5 has one or plans to build one, I don't see how somebody could logically deem it unnecessary.

Let's walk through this a minute...

Just because every p5 school has one doesn't make it a requirement. Now, for northern schools, yes, I can see the absolute weather advantages of having an IPF...no question.

Southern schools, especially the closer to latitudes of Miami, have a tougher sell from the basis of weather alone (even with our SoFla rain storms).

So, other than "we have to have one because Bama does", what pros/cons does an IPF, at a rumored $28M, really bring to Miami?

Here's what I offer:

Pros
- Sited on Greentree, so really just covering existing practice space
- unquestioned all-weather practice flexibility
- does bring a "wow" factor to the infrastructure offerings of the program

Cons
- $28m that COULD POSSIBLY be spent to address other program needs (don't know what they are, but satellite camps will be $$$$)
- sustainment costs now added to a private university's o&m budget without deeper resources to offset/pay


I think I heard this phrase somewhere before...but...if fans don't think that the organizational design amd resourcing of a program arent just as critical as the actual players and on field performance for the long term success of said program...i don't know what to tell you...

If someone donates for the IPF, then that is where the money has to go.

Who gives a **** about satellite camps. Richt isn't even sure if he will participate in any. An IPF is a must in order to not miss any practice time because of lightning. Therefore, IPF>satellite camps

 

[Zbrod95]

Every single school in the p5 has one or plans to build one, I don't see how somebody could logically deem it unnecessary.

Let's walk through this a minute...

Just because every p5 school has one doesn't make it a requirement. Now, for northern schools, yes, I can see the absolute weather advantages of having an IPF...no question.

Southern schools, especially the closer to latitudes of Miami, have a tougher sell from the basis of weather alone (even with our SoFla rain storms).

So, other than "we have to have one because Bama does", what pros/cons does an IPF, at a rumored $28M, really bring to Miami?

Here's what I offer:

Pros
- Sited on Greentree, so really just covering existing practice space
- unquestioned all-weather practice flexibility
- does bring a "wow" factor to the infrastructure offerings of the program

Cons
- $28m that COULD POSSIBLY be spent to address other program needs (don't know what they are, but satellite camps will be $$$$)
- sustainment costs now added to a private university's o&m budget without deeper resources to offset/pay


I think I heard this phrase somewhere before...but...if fans don't think that the organizational design amd resourcing of a program arent just as critical as the actual players and on field performance for the long term success of said program...i don't know what to tell you...

If someone donates for the IPF, then that is where the money has to go.

Totally understand the specified donation part...my point was...

Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?

"Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?"

You're a little dense aren't you? How about what the the top 2 football people have to say? Richt and James, who know more about the program and its needs than you, and whose employment future and reputation depend on the success of the program, see this as their number 1 priority in terms of logistical needs.

So meeting what they prioritize as a need is a little more important than the imagined needs of some dumbass jamoche on a message board.

[MENTION=7203]OriginalCanesCanesCanes[/MENTION] +1,000,000

 

[Jeeperaf]

Every single school in the p5 has one or plans to build one, I don't see how somebody could logically deem it unnecessary.

Let's walk through this a minute...

Just because every p5 school has one doesn't make it a requirement. Now, for northern schools, yes, I can see the absolute weather advantages of having an IPF...no question.

Southern schools, especially the closer to latitudes of Miami, have a tougher sell from the basis of weather alone (even with our SoFla rain storms).

So, other than "we have to have one because Bama does", what pros/cons does an IPF, at a rumored $28M, really bring to Miami?

Here's what I offer:

Pros
- Sited on Greentree, so really just covering existing practice space
- unquestioned all-weather practice flexibility
- does bring a "wow" factor to the infrastructure offerings of the program

Cons
- $28m that COULD POSSIBLY be spent to address other program needs (don't know what they are, but satellite camps will be $$$$)
- sustainment costs now added to a private university's o&m budget without deeper resources to offset/pay


I think I heard this phrase somewhere before...but...if fans don't think that the organizational design amd resourcing of a program arent just as critical as the actual players and on field performance for the long term success of said program...i don't know what to tell you...

If someone donates for the IPF, then that is where the money has to go.

Totally understand the specified donation part...my point was...

Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?

"Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?"

You're a little dense aren't you? How about what the the top 2 football people have to say? Richt and James, who know more about the program and its needs than you, and whose employment future and reputation depend on the success of the program, see this as their number 1 priority in terms of logistical needs.

So meeting what they prioritize as a need is a little more important than the imagined needs of some dumbass jamoche on a message board.

Wow Princess!!! Look at you putting on your big girl Dora The Explorer undies! Aren't you cute.

Looky here you fuqn cretin little troll. Feel tough behind your clickity-clack keyboad? Bet you $1 you don't have the courage to talk to any little old grandma like that let alone anyone else.

Tool.

If you read what I posted (you might need the crayon version..I'll use smaller words), I was just asking if anyone thought there was a better use of $28M for the program. In fact, I even said I didn't know what they might even be.

It's called a conversation that adults have.

You, on the other hand, are apparantly (that means you seem like...do you even have a GED?) to dense to get that.

Fuqn tool.

Debate me...point for point. I fuqn DARE you.

Now the little girl's room is down tha hall and to the left. Remember to sit down when you pee-pee.

Douche bag.

 

[Jeeperaf]

Every single school in the p5 has one or plans to build one, I don't see how somebody could logically deem it unnecessary.

Let's walk through this a minute...

Just because every p5 school has one doesn't make it a requirement. Now, for northern schools, yes, I can see the absolute weather advantages of having an IPF...no question.

Southern schools, especially the closer to latitudes of Miami, have a tougher sell from the basis of weather alone (even with our SoFla rain storms).

So, other than "we have to have one because Bama does", what pros/cons does an IPF, at a rumored $28M, really bring to Miami?

Here's what I offer:

Pros
- Sited on Greentree, so really just covering existing practice space
- unquestioned all-weather practice flexibility
- does bring a "wow" factor to the infrastructure offerings of the program

Cons
- $28m that COULD POSSIBLY be spent to address other program needs (don't know what they are, but satellite camps will be $$$$)
- sustainment costs now added to a private university's o&m budget without deeper resources to offset/pay


I think I heard this phrase somewhere before...but...if fans don't think that the organizational design amd resourcing of a program arent just as critical as the actual players and on field performance for the long term success of said program...i don't know what to tell you...

If someone donates for the IPF, then that is where the money has to go.

Who gives a **** about satellite camps. Richt isn't even sure if he will participate in any. An IPF is a must in order to not miss any practice time because of lightning. Therefore, IPF>satellite camps

Fair enough...but here is another question...

IF the AD leaders did care about satellite camps (they might be forced to by the competition), if Miami could conduct only one, where would that location be?

I suspect for other schools, the answer is SoFla, but for Miami, its a different calculus.

Maybe Atlanta? Dallas? Houston? LA?

 

[jakeman1]

I'm not sure which part about the changes in the mandatory lightning precautions, that people don't understand. It can be sunny over the football field, but the sensor can sense lightning within a few miles, and they have to go inside. This was not in place in the 80's. Schools in the south need it for lightning. Schools in the north, need it for snow and lightning.

 

[INCaneFan]

I'm not sure which part about the changes in the mandatory lightning precautions, that people don't understand. It can be sunny over the football field, but the sensor can sense lightning within a few miles, and they have to go inside. This was not in place in the 80's. Schools in the south need it for lightning. Schools in the north, need it for snow and lightning.

The sensors are the only thing that have changed since our good days of football. Prior to that, there was nothing scientific about it. LMAO at the guy saying we just practiced in anything because we didn't give a ****.

The Oklahoma underground bunker post was hysterical.

Still waiting to see the numbers showing we always have the most lost practices. With the last guy, he probably just said to **** with practice at the sniff of a lightning strike. He was all about clouds, why not lightning too?

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Let's walk through this a minute...

Just because every p5 school has one doesn't make it a requirement. Now, for northern schools, yes, I can see the absolute weather advantages of having an IPF...no question.

Southern schools, especially the closer to latitudes of Miami, have a tougher sell from the basis of weather alone (even with our SoFla rain storms).

So, other than "we have to have one because Bama does", what pros/cons does an IPF, at a rumored $28M, really bring to Miami?

Here's what I offer:

Pros
- Sited on Greentree, so really just covering existing practice space
- unquestioned all-weather practice flexibility
- does bring a "wow" factor to the infrastructure offerings of the program

Cons
- $28m that COULD POSSIBLY be spent to address other program needs (don't know what they are, but satellite camps will be $$$$)
- sustainment costs now added to a private university's o&m budget without deeper resources to offset/pay


I think I heard this phrase somewhere before...but...if fans don't think that the organizational design amd resourcing of a program arent just as critical as the actual players and on field performance for the long term success of said program...i don't know what to tell you...

If someone donates for the IPF, then that is where the money has to go.

Totally understand the specified donation part...my point was...

Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?

"Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?"

You're a little dense aren't you? How about what the the top 2 football people have to say? Richt and James, who know more about the program and its needs than you, and whose employment future and reputation depend on the success of the program, see this as their number 1 priority in terms of logistical needs.

So meeting what they prioritize as a need is a little more important than the imagined needs of some dumbass jamoche on a message board.

Wow Princess!!! Look at you putting on your big girl Dora The Explorer undies! Aren't you cute.

Looky here you fuqn cretin little troll. Feel tough behind your clickity-clack keyboad? Bet you $1 you don't have the courage to talk to any little old grandma like that let alone anyone else.

Tool.

If you read what I posted (you might need the crayon version..I'll use smaller words), I was just asking if anyone thought there was a better use of $28M for the program. In fact, I even said I didn't know what they might even be.

It's called a conversation that adults have.

You, on the other hand, are apparantly (that means you seem like...do you even have a GED?) to dense to get that.

Fuqn tool.

Debate me...point for point. I fuqn DARE you.

Now the little girl's room is down tha hall and to the left. Remember to sit down when you pee-pee.

Douche bag.

LOL. I don't need to debate you. I destroyed you with just a few sentences. Why debate when your premise is completely retärded. There's no bigger priority according to the top 2 guys.

Also, no tough guy routine here, although it sounds like you like to be b*tchėd slapped around a little.

LOL at a supposedly grown man catching emotions on a message board.

 

[TheEye]

The IPF maintenance will be offset by bowl wins, ad revenue, ACC money, Addidas money, increased ticket sales...etc. Investing in football has been lacking for some time now. Time to pay it forward.

 

[UMFarArcher]

In McKinney, Texas, they're building a high school stadium for $60,000,000.

A high school. But UM can't afford a stadium.

My bad. They WANT a football stadium.

 

[Jeeperaf]

If someone donates for the IPF, then that is where the money has to go.

Totally understand the specified donation part...my point was...

Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?

"Are there other prgram needs that $28m could have been asked for?"

You're a little dense aren't you? How about what the the top 2 football people have to say? Richt and James, who know more about the program and its needs than you, and whose employment future and reputation depend on the success of the program, see this as their number 1 priority in terms of logistical needs.

So meeting what they prioritize as a need is a little more important than the imagined needs of some dumbass jamoche on a message board.

Wow Princess!!! Look at you putting on your big girl Dora The Explorer undies! Aren't you cute.

Looky here you fuqn cretin little troll. Feel tough behind your clickity-clack keyboad? Bet you $1 you don't have the courage to talk to any little old grandma like that let alone anyone else.

Tool.

If you read what I posted (you might need the crayon version..I'll use smaller words), I was just asking if anyone thought there was a better use of $28M for the program. In fact, I even said I didn't know what they might even be.

It's called a conversation that adults have.

You, on the other hand, are apparantly (that means you seem like...do you even have a GED?) to dense to get that.

Fuqn tool.

Debate me...point for point. I fuqn DARE you.

Now the little girl's room is down tha hall and to the left. Remember to sit down when you pee-pee.

Douche bag.

LOL. I don't need to debate you. I destroyed you with just a few sentences. Why debate when your premise is completely retärded. There's no bigger priority according to the top 2 guys.

Also, no tough guy routine here, although it sounds like you like to be b*tchėd slapped around a little.

LOL at a supposedly grown man catching emotions on a message board.

Last thing I'll say before I put you on ignore...please place me same same.

You are an utter embarrassment. You are an utter coward. You couldn't destroy my baby girl, let alone anyone, on any topic. Your father's sperm was defective and your mother's ovaries were broken. How painful there shame as they watched you grow, into well, not much. Ouch.

You are the the living personification of utter fail.

Must be awful to wake up in the morning and look in the mirror because, no matter how many times you splash water and look away and back again, you are still you. I'll still be me. How sad for you typing away feverishly in your wanna-be Starcraft command center, chest all puffed out, that you constructed in your grandmother's basement. I am mildly impressed you were able to use the word retarded. See...you did learn something in GED class! Good for you sparky.

Are you still standing there? You may go now.

Tool.

 

[Jeeperaf]

In McKinney, Texas, they're building a high school stadium for $60,000,000.

A high school. But UM can't afford a stadium.

My bad. They WANT a football stadium.

The football palaces they are building in the Plano (x3...one even a joint venture w/ Cowboys) and Katy areas leave lots of head scratching for sure. With that said, the major difference is those facilities are (w/ exception of joint Cowboy venture) 100% funded via tax payer voted bond issues. Stunning for sure (and has driven passionate questions about priorities), but if they want to vote that way, go nuts right?

UM doesn't have those resources, nor is there really any realistic acreage to build one considering the various "equities" of all the actors that would be on that stage. Perhaps a joint venture with Beckham's group could play out, but Tropical Park is highly, highly unlikely and on-campus in CoCG impossible. Like Vladmir Putin getting elected President of Ukraine impossible.

 

[Andrew]

I can't wait to see the drawings. The cost is on par to what Michigan spent. (see image below)
8 Best Indoor Facilities in College Football | Bleacher Report

 

[Andrew]

Oh and someone said multi-year project, which I don't buy. This facility could easily be stood up in under 9 months. I have seen warehouses 10 times get stood up in that time.

 

[brock]

Oh and someone said multi-year project, which I don't buy. This facility could easily be stood up in under 9 months. I have seen warehouses 10 times get stood up in that time.

Yeah UF got theirs up in less than a year I believe. It's actually going to be more than Michigan I'm thinking over 30 million when it's all said and done. Cost always exceeds estimated values

 

[Andrew]

Oh and someone said multi-year project, which I don't buy. This facility could easily be stood up in under 9 months. I have seen warehouses 10 times get stood up in that time.

Yeah UF got theirs up in less than a year I believe. It's actually going to be more than Michigan I'm thinking over 30 million when it's all said and done. Cost always exceeds estimated values

On stadiums it may but on facilities like this it really shouldn't. It is less complicated than a fully mechanized distribution center and those usually get stood up within budget. I say that without knowing the details of the project but the cost to pour foundation and set the walls and roof should be pretty straight forward. Electrical, plumbing and the turf should be fairly accurate estimates as well. What makes projects like this run over is if something like a retractable roof is added.

 

[Jeeperaf]

How bad *** would a retractable roof be? Seriously.

Maybe a water feature or lazy river (like at LSU) that has sharks with laser beams on their heads. Bellagio style dancing fountains anyone?

I mean if a warehouse is gonna cost $28M, let them have it right?