Lil Bryant 305
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Bro stop! Speak that 15-0 into existence...#beatbamaManny sucks!
8-3,bro!
Go check out the stats big bro put up before he got to Miami. Since i know you're lazy AF i'll save you the timeHopefully big bro already told him how to tell Patke to **** off
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FG% | FG | 1-19 | 20-29 | 30-39 | 40-49 | 50+ | LNG | XPM | XPA | PTS |
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90.9 | 20-22 | 0-0 | 5-5 | 6-6 | 7-9 | 2-2 | 57 | 37 | 37 | 97 |
72.4 | 21-29 | 0-0 | 7-8 | 6-11 | 5-6 | 3-4 | 53 | 37 | 39 | 100 |
73.7 | 14-19 | 0-0 | 6-7 | 3-5 | 4-6 | 1-1 | 53 | 54 | 55 | 96 |
83.3 | 15-18 | 0-0 | 7-7 | 6-6 | 2-4 | 0-1 | 44 | 40 | 40 | 85 |
Jokes on you. Patke already admitted to having "left him alone" and let him practice on his own like a professional.Go check out the stats big bro put up before he got to Miami. Since i know you're lazy AF i'll save you the time
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STATS 2020 2019 2018 2017
FG% FG 1-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50+ LNG XPM XPA PTS 90.9 20-22 0-0 5-5 6-6 7-9 2-2 57 37 37 97 72.4 21-29 0-0 7-8 6-11 5-6 3-4 53 37 39 100 73.7 14-19 0-0 6-7 3-5 4-6 1-1 53 54 55 96 83.3 15-18 0-0 7-7 6-6 2-4 0-1 44 40 40 85
Just keep being a hater. it's fine, just admit it. Stats don't lie and he became a better kicker while here. You can leave someone along, but that doesn't mean they aren't coached. See how 2 things can be true at once. Keep trying tho, it's funny.Jokes on you. Patke already admitted to having "left him alone" and let him practice on his own like a professional.
Yeah just like Bubba developed amazingly under coach Patke's tutelage.Also did anyone else notice the gale force wind they were kicking with?
Just keep being a hater. it's fine, just admit it. Stats don't lie and he became a better kicker while here. You can leave someone along, but that doesn't mean they aren't coached. See how 2 things can be true at once. Keep trying tho, it's funny.
I guess that is my point. Patke got all the blame for Bubba, but no credit for Jose when the stats show Jose was a ****** kicker until he got to UM. People just can't have it both way.Yeah just like Bubba developed amazingly under coach Patke's tutelage.
Living up to the username though. props.
All of our best players were transfers and not internal developments. So not just on Patke. But that point stands.
Bruh, you are only seeing half the issue. Our development is ****. Look at punting. We had to bring in a transfer punter so we could stop having -4 yard shanked punts. Kids being developed or not is only a small % of a reason why they might transfer.I guess that is my point. Patke got all the blame for Bubba, but no credit for Jose when the stats show Jose was a ****** kicker until he got to UM. People just can't have it both way.
Also as for the transfers we did develop them wouldn't you say? I mean if a kid was being developed at their original school do you think they would have transferred? Now i get sometimes circumstances like Roche moving to better comp and Bubba not being happy, but you can't say they were those players at their old schools.
Development is 90% on the player to be honest. I know you might not think so, but you get out of what you put into things. Why do you think Devonta Smith is amazing and Mark Pope sucks? Who spends more time on their craft?
A ****** kicker? Jose was a Groza finalist at FIU but carry on...I guess that is my point. Patke got all the blame for Bubba, but no credit for Jose when the stats show Jose was a ****** kicker until he got to UM. People just can't have it both way.
Also as for the transfers we did develop them wouldn't you say? I mean if a kid was being developed at their original school do you think they would have transferred? Now i get sometimes circumstances like Roche moving to better comp and Bubba not being happy, but you can't say they were those players at their old schools.
Development is 90% on the player to be honest. I know you might not think so, but you get out of what you put into things. Why do you think Devonta Smith is amazing and Mark Pope sucks? Who spends more time on their craft?
Bruh, you are only seeing half the issue. Our development is ****. Look at punting. We had to bring in a transfer punter so we could stop having -4 yard shanked punts. Kids being developed or not is only a small % of a reason why they might transfer.
Again, our best players were all transfers and yes they were already "that guy". Look at King, he was literally in the heisman race one year. Look at players like our ST players. Look at players like KJ Osborn. Yes, they were already that guy. Bubba bolden, Jaelan Philips, etc. All of our best players were transfers. Hopefully things start to look up with these new coaches.
The only player I can even think of in recent years that was developed here was Greg Rousseau.
But I don't take back my comments about Patke. I may like him as a person, but I don't feel like we have a good special teams, and if we do it is despite him, not due to him. Also again, the development issue is mainly across the board, not just ST. Just sayin that as a joke about Lil B.
Sievers was carrying his nuts around in a wheelbarrow that night. HUGE KICK!!!Couldn't help but think of Sievers kick in the '02 Natty game.
That dude had to wait through 3 TO's and 5 minutes before nailing the 40 yarder to send it into OT.
Which year was he a finalist at FIU? I love the fact you’re wrong and didn’t even take the time to ok it up, but carry onA ****** kicker? Jose was a Groza finalist at FIU but carry on...
Look at the difference in punting between Hedley’s first year and his second year. He developed. Look at Borregales at FIU versus at Miami. Again development. Stats don’t lie.
They may have done it on their own, but they developed when they were at Miami. As far as the other players, that’s a different discussion, we’re talking about kicking special teams or just special teams in general.
Which year was he a finalist at FIU? I love the fact you’re wrong and didn’t even take the time to ok it up, but carry on
I guess that is my point. Patke got all the blame for Bubba, but no credit for Jose when the stats show Jose was a ****** kicker until he got to UM. People just can't have it both way.
Also as for the transfers we did develop them wouldn't you say? I mean if a kid was being developed at their original school do you think they would have transferred? Now i get sometimes circumstances like Roche moving to better comp and Bubba not being happy, but you can't say they were those players at their old schools.
Development is 90% on the player to be honest. I know you might not think so, but you get out of what you put into things. Why do you think Devonta Smith is amazing and Mark Pope sucks? Who spends more time on their craft?
Wrong is still wrong tho right?He was a semi-finalist in 2018.
But in fairness to @TRick72, Jose's Wikipedia page claims he was a finalist for the award in 2018.
I agree with the Perry comment. Bubbas prob was never leg he was a head caseOn the first point, Baxa is probably Exhibit A of a kicker with leg talent but who got in his own head and couldn't get his mind right. A great coach might be able to help a kid out of that sort of internal dialogue, but it's not easy. End of the day, I probably blame Perry more for Baxa's soft psyche than I do Patke. Kid was never the same after Perry made his girl an amateur **** sensation
Staying on the topic of our punter/kicker, Hedley & Borregales definitely developed, but that does not mean Patke developed them. Patke was a linebacker with zero previous experience as on-field coach, much less a ST coach or a kicking coach. Kicking is a highly technical craft developed through nuance and repetition. And notably, both Hedley and Borregales each had their own private kicking instructors before they ever stepped foot on campus. Giving Patke credit for their development because they all happened to be here at the same time is falsely assuming that a correlation equals a causation relationship.
I generally agree with the notion that development is mostly on the player. Proper instruction and coaching is important, but once an athlete has received that instruction, what do they do with it? How much work do they put in? You can try to evaluate and recruit for those traits, and maybe even teach that work ethic/culture to a certain degree, but at some point the player must put in the work.
I keep repeating myself, but my gripe with Patke (other than him being a non-factor in recruiting) as a ST coach has more to do with his performance in those coaching areas that are most within his purview and control (i.e., kick/punt return and coverage) and how subpar we were in those areas last year (notwithstanding our amazing kicker and punter).
Your initial comment clearly took issue with his purported failure to "even take the time to ok it up." My comment was in response to that, demonstrating: (a) you guys are arguing over semi-finalist vs. finalist; and (b) if he looked it up on Google or Wikipedia, it would have told him Jose was a 2018 Groza Finalist.Wrong is still wrong tho right?
I don't disagree with you. Just saying there is a difference with players developing on their own and the coaches developing them. We went out and got an already good kicker and punter through transfers. The same actually applies at many positions. Nobody is arguing they haven't developed or gotten better. Just pointing out the circumstances.Look at the difference in punting between Hedley’s first year and his second year. He developed. Look at Borregales at FIU versus at Miami. Again development. Stats don’t lie.
They may have done it on their own, but they developed when they were at Miami. As far as the other players, that’s a different discussion, we’re talking about kicking special teams or just special teams in general.