So Jalean Phillips was already that guy when he transferred? You do know he was medically retired from football when he came to us right. that doesn't sound like "that guy."Bruh, you are only seeing half the issue. Our development is ****. Look at punting. We had to bring in a transfer punter so we could stop having -4 yard shanked punts. Kids being developed or not is only a small % of a reason why they might transfer.
Again, our best players were all transfers and yes they were already "that guy". Look at King, he was literally in the heisman race one year. Look at players like our ST players. Look at players like KJ Osborn. Yes, they were already that guy. Bubba bolden, Jaelan Philips, etc. All of our best players were transfers. Hopefully things start to look up with these new coaches.
The only player I can even think of in recent years that was developed here was Greg Rousseau.
But I don't take back my comments about Patke. I may like him as a person, but I don't feel like we have a good special teams, and if we do it is despite him, not due to him. Also again, the development issue is mainly across the board, not just ST. Just sayin that as a joke about Lil B.
Bubba Bolden played in the 3 games at USC and was not "that guy" when he came to us either.
I will agree with you about King, KJ, and Roche, but i will also say we developed QR2 into something he was not seen as before he came to MIami. He's getting a lot of looks at a 3-4 rush LB and we put those skills on tape for evaluators. he wasn't taught those at temple i don't believe.
I have a kid we've developed and had probably one of the best year over year performances in recent memory.....Zion Nelson. We've developed a lot of kids, but i guess unless they're first rounders then we didn't develop them according to you. I can think of more than a few players weve developed over the last couple of years that come to mind.