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Mario is 9-9 in his first year-and-a-half as HC (18 games) including a horrid 3-7 record in conference. He's yet to win a home ACC game. By comparison, let's look at where his predecessors were at this same point in time in their tenures:

- Manny Diaz was 11-7

- Mark Richt was 14-4

- Al Golden was 10-8

- Randy Shannon was 8-10

I've been patient to a fault with our HC's over the past 20 years and have always believed that you need 3 years to truly begin judging a full body of work. Given how much we are paying Mario, I feel he has earned the right to be scrutinized at an earlier stage than his peers and, without even getting into the advanced analytics, it is clearly apparent that we are paying for a top 15-20 HC and getting Randy Shannon level results.

My question becomes, when does the seat get truly warm? Even with a likely loss today, I can't see how this staff can't find 7 wins out of their remaining games but 12-12 through 2 years is completely unacceptable. Did we hire our version of Scott Frost?
 
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Mario is 9-9 in his first year-and-a-half as HC (18 games) including a horrid 3-7 record in conference. He's yet to win a home ACC game. By comparison, let's look at where his predecessors were at this same point in time in their tenures:

- Manny Diaz was 11-7

- Mark Richt was 14-4

- Al Golden was 10-8

- Randy Shannon was 8-10

I've been patient to a fault with our HC's over the past 20 years and have always believed that you need 3 years to truly begin judging a full body of work. Given how much we are paying Mario, I feel he has earned the right to be scrutinized at an earlier stage than his peers and, without even getting into the advanced analytics, it is clearly apparent that we are paying for a top 15-20 HC and getting Randy Shannon level results.

My question becomes, when does the seat get truly warm? Even with a likely loss today, I can't see how this staff can't find 7 wins out of their remaining games but 12-12 through 2 years is completely unacceptable. Did we hire our version of Scott Frost?
You’re at least 2 or 3 years too early on the warm seats, unless a scandal pops up.
 
Norvell was 3-10 his first 13 games. Mario might suck here and be a failure. He might win big here and make all these threads look foolish. The only thing that’s known for certain is that it’s pointless to try to say things one way or the other at a year and a half into his tenure.
 
Even with a loss today I still think we can win 7 games this year. Which was my prediction to start the season. It sucks but this was never going to be a clear change in the first couple years. This team has improved but it just isn't were people want it to be (myself included). I think Mario will be successful here but it will be years before that happens.
 
Mario is 9-9 in his first year-and-a-half as HC (18 games) including a horrid 3-7 record in conference. He's yet to win a home ACC game. By comparison, let's look at where his predecessors were at this same point in time in their tenures:

- Manny Diaz was 11-7

- Mark Richt was 14-4

- Al Golden was 10-8

- Randy Shannon was 8-10

I've been patient to a fault with our HC's over the past 20 years and have always believed that you need 3 years to truly begin judging a full body of work. Given how much we are paying Mario, I feel he has earned the right to be scrutinized at an earlier stage than his peers and, without even getting into the advanced analytics, it is clearly apparent that we are paying for a top 15-20 HC and getting Randy Shannon level results.

My question becomes, when does the seat get truly warm? Even with a likely loss today, I can't see how this staff can't find 7 wins out of their remaining games but 12-12 through 2 years is completely unacceptable. Did we hire our version of Scott Frost?
Which position do we have solid depth at? Which positions do we have marginal talent at?

That's what takes time.
 
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He has definitely been a failure here… to this point.
Show me a competitive team today and show me the difference between you and the other scrubs we have hired. And no the seats are not gonna be warm for 3-4 years at least
 
Mario is 9-9 in his first year-and-a-half as HC (18 games) including a horrid 3-7 record in conference. He's yet to win a home ACC game. By comparison, let's look at where his predecessors were at this same point in time in their tenures:

- Manny Diaz was 11-7

- Mark Richt was 14-4

- Al Golden was 10-8

- Randy Shannon was 8-10

I've been patient to a fault with our HC's over the past 20 years and have always believed that you need 3 years to truly begin judging a full body of work. Given how much we are paying Mario, I feel he has earned the right to be scrutinized at an earlier stage than his peers and, without even getting into the advanced analytics, it is clearly apparent that we are paying for a top 15-20 HC and getting Randy Shannon level results.

My question becomes, when does the seat get truly warm? Even with a likely loss today, I can't see how this staff can't find 7 wins out of their remaining games but 12-12 through 2 years is completely unacceptable. Did we hire our version of Scott Frost?
Valid points. No idea when his seat should vs could get slightly warm. We've got a lot invested in him.
Beating a beatable Clemson team tonight would go a long way to keeping that seat cooler.
 
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Good enough to beat GT
Of course.

Is this going to be this year's MTSU response?

Oh look, Reuben Bain is the top DE!
Could he beat GT?

I've avoided the main boards since GT not only because I'm thoroughly disgusted at the horrible comedy of errors that led to that loss, but to avoid MENSA level comments like yours.
 
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