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EltonJohn13 said:
I’ve been going off since Ga Tech on everything and everyone.
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This type of “facts” based thread is really short sighted. It’s like saying Kevin Love was better than Tim Duncan because he had a couple better statistical years than Tim.

The team as a whole looks better than it did under any of the previous coaches you mentioned. The program is headed in the right direction even if they lose today.
 
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JustWin said:
This type of “facts” based thread is really short sighted. It’s like saying Kevin Love was better than Tim Duncan because he had a couple better statistical years than Tim.

The team as a whole looks better than it did under any of the previous coaches you mentioned. The program is headed in the right direction even if they lose today.
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I was just about to post this very sentiment. I wouldn't refer to OP's post as facts, more just a small sampling of data points. Mario is in year two and the team AND ROSTER look infinitely better than it did last year. The coaching staff is also much better than last year. Mario brought in a class last year that was better than anything that any of the other coaches listed ever brought in.

I like the trajectory very much. Quite frankly, I have to say that the Ga Tech game does have me concerned about Mario's IQ and ability to lead at the highest levels.
 
Mnhurricane said:
He has definitely been a failure here… to this point.
Show me a competitive team today and show me the difference between you and the other scrubs we have hired. And no the seats are not gonna be warm for 3-4 years at least
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Agreed. We hired a mediocre .500 career coach because he played at Miami. After the GT debacle it became clear he is a poor gameday coach. Unfortunately, no amount of recruiting will make up for that.

And, unfortunately it will be years before his seat is hot. All we can do is hope something changes and things get better. It’s been over 20 years, just gotta accept we are not what we were and might never be again.

Go Canes!
 
SFbayCane said:
I was just about to post this very sentiment. I wouldn't refer to OP's post as facts, more just a small sampling of data points. Mario is in year two and the team AND ROSTER look infinitely better than it did last year. The coaching staff is also much better than last year. Mario brought in a class last year that was better than anything that any of the other coaches listed ever brought in.

I like the trajectory very much. Quite frankly, I have to say that the Ga Tech game does have me concerned about Mario's IQ and ability to lead at the highest levels.
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I don’t think he’s a very good game day coach. But I have seen more improvement in development of individuals and we have a real deal oline. From a middling program the past 2 decades that’s enough to not spaz yet imo.

It could be much worse.
 
JZCane0825 said:
Mario is 9-9 in his first year-and-a-half as HC (18 games) including a horrid 3-7 record in conference. He's yet to win a home ACC game. By comparison, let's look at where his predecessors were at this same point in time in their tenures:

- Manny Diaz was 11-7

- Mark Richt was 14-4

- Al Golden was 10-8

- Randy Shannon was 8-10

I've been patient to a fault with our HC's over the past 20 years and have always believed that you need 3 years to truly begin judging a full body of work. Given how much we are paying Mario, I feel he has earned the right to be scrutinized at an earlier stage than his peers and, without even getting into the advanced analytics, it is clearly apparent that we are paying for a top 15-20 HC and getting Randy Shannon level results.

My question becomes, when does the seat get truly warm? Even with a likely loss today, I can't see how this staff can't find 7 wins out of their remaining games but 12-12 through 2 years is completely unacceptable. Did we hire our version of Scott Frost?
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It gets warm when the buyout is reduced to a manageable number. Not until then.
 
RightSaidFred said:
Depends on his recruiting class. That will tell me how well he’s building for the future or if we can expect more years of losing

Class right now isn’t looking good but that can still change with a few flips
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Not looking good? We’re ranked in the top ten in recruiting rankings.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Norvell was 3-10 his first 13 games. Mario might suck here and be a failure. He might win big here and make all these threads look foolish. The only thing that’s known for certain is that it’s pointless to try to say things one way or the other at a year and a half into his tenure.
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There are things with this regime that feel all too familiar to Diaz's tenure here: poor performances out of Bye week, endless runs up the middle. At least the TEs got more shine while he was here. No game-breaking players on offense will expose Cristobal's deficiencies even more. Won't take the next step until you have that, just look at OhSt vs Penn St earlier. If they get out-coached and lose to Duke, I wonder if you'll say the same thing. Just curious
 
Lose to G5 Billy to start 2024 and the excuses need to stop and the Spirit Halloween signs need to be hung
 
dukemv said:
There are things with this regime that feel all too familiar to Diaz's tenure here: poor performances out of Bye week, endless runs up the middle. At least the TEs got more shine while he was here. No game-breaking players on offense will expose Cristobal's deficiencies even more. Won't take the next step until you have that, just look at OhSt vs Penn St earlier. If they get out-coached and lose to Duke, I wonder if you'll say the same thing. Just curious
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Miami doesn’t play Duke.
 
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