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The Franchise said:
Not exactly smoking gun style evidence, friend. They went down two tenths of a yard per play after he left?
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Smoking gun? It's still UCONN.....not sure what you can expect with that level of talent. I'm an eyeball guy more than stats guy, which is why i said i have to watch more tape on him and his offense. I just use stats a lot at work and figured i'd use some since the the point was the other poster made was the only place Lashlee called the play without a stud HC was UCONN.....and this bad offense did improve. It was only one year so who knows what year 2 would have been. SMU year 1 was worse than previous staff.....it was year 2 with Buechele where it took off.

I added an additional year. You typically have a little carry-over first year after a guy leaves if the next coach keeps a lot of the same principles in place to ease the transition (and Pindell was a better running QB). In the end, it's still crappy UCONN with awful talent, but the passing increase ~5% points, yards jumped from 4.8 to 5.5 with mostly the same players, plays per game up 10 bc of his tempo (53 total yards a game). Within 2 years removed, back down to mid 60 plays per game and almost a half yard per play.

2016 - UCONN before Lashlee, 65.5 plays per game at 4.8 yards per play....56.1% completion percentage (shirreffs)
2017 - UCONN with Lashlee, 75.4 plays per game, 5.5 yards per play....60.8% completion percentage (shirreffs)
2018 - UCONN after Lashlee, 70.8 plays per game, 5.3 yards per play.....56.9% completion percentage (pindell)
2019 - UCONN year 2 removed, 67.3 plays per game, 5.1 yards per play.....59.7% completion percentage (zergiotis)

By the way, total offense went from being ranked 122nd to 50th.....then back down to 89 and 108th this season.
 
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Tony Perps said:
do you know what the word “if” means

UM hasn’t beaten the “******” teams on its schedule in 16 years.

if you think that changes because manny diaz hired a coordinator—especially one that has no experience running his own offense at the power 5 level—then you are not bright
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Yeah, I appropriately used the word "if" and yes, I am pretty bright. When I used the word "if" it meant just what I said. I was clear with the usage of the word "if". . .
 
PSU Cane said:
Smoking gun? It's still UCONN.....not sure what you can expect with that level of talent. I'm an eyeball guy more than stats guy, which is why i said i have to watch more tape on him and his offense. I just use stats a lot at work and figured i'd use some since the the point was the other poster made was the only place Lashlee called the play without a stud HC was UCONN.....and this bad offense did improve. It was only one year so who knows what year 2 would have been. SMU year 1 was worse than previous staff.....it was year 2 with Buechele where it took off.

I added an additional year. You typically have a little carry-over first year after a guy leaves if the next coach keeps a lot of the same principles in place to ease the transition (and Pindell was a better running QB). In the end, it's still crappy UCONN with awful talent, but the passing increase ~5% points, yards jumped from 4.8 to 5.5 with mostly the same players, plays per game up 10 bc of his tempo. Within 2 years removed, back down to mid 60 plays per game and almost a half yard per play.

2016 - UCONN before Lashlee, 65.5 plays per game at 4.8 yards per play....56.1% completion percentage (shirreffs)
2017 - UCONN with Lashlee, 75.4 plays per game, 5.5 yards per play....60.8% completion percentage (shirreffs)
2018 - UCONN after Lashlee, 70.8 plays per game, 5.3 yards per play.....56.9% completion percentage (pindell)
2019 - UCONN year 2 removed, 67.3 plays per game, 5.1 yards per play.....59.7% completion percentage (zergiotis)
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If you’re an eyeball guy like I am, then I’d suggest not watching SMU’s most recent bowl game if you want to keep feeling good about the Lashlee hire.

I don’t put much stock in those UConn numbers no matter how much spin our fans try to put on them. They’re pretty lame numbers.

His one good season as an OC was this last one. He was pretty bad his first year at smu. Then they brought in a bunch of portal guys, and they had a very good overall season. How much of that was Buechele, the 3 really good veteran WRs, and the very good RB? They arguably have better players at QB and WR than we do and played a slew of awful teams.

It’s going to be interesting to see what he does in year 1 because Manure only has 1 year left unless Lashlee turns thugs around immediately. If he does what he did his first year at SMU then there won’t be a year 2.
 
The Franchise said:
If you’re an eyeball guy like I am, then I’d suggest not watching SMU’s most recent bowl game if you want to keep feeling good about the Lashlee hire.

I don’t put much stock in those UConn numbers no matter how much spin our fans try to put on them. They’re pretty lame numbers.

His one good season as an OC was this last one. He was pretty bad his first year at smu. Then they brought in a bunch of portal guys, and they had a very good overall season. How much of that was Buechele, the 3 really good veteran WRs, and the very good RB? They arguably have better players at QB and WR than we do and played a slew of awful teams.

It’s going to be interesting to see what he does in year 1 because Manure only has 1 year left unless Lashlee turns thugs around immediately. If he does what he did his first year at SMU then there won’t be a year 2.
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I saw more experience, confidence and chemistry with their skilled guys. Not a better overall skill set, IMO. I think Dallas is better than their Xavier. But, I don’t think Cam is at this point.

I think that jugg machine will help our WR CORP quite a bit. With that said, If 2 would have gone to SMU instead of Miami for his final season, he would have a much better draft grade right now. Better scheme, opportunities and coaching. Same skill set.
 
The Franchise said:
If you’re an eyeball guy like I am, then I’d suggest not watching SMU’s most recent bowl game if you want to keep feeling good about the Lashlee hire.

I don’t put much stock in those UConn numbers no matter how much spin our fans try to put on them. They’re pretty lame numbers.

His one good season as an OC was this last one. He was pretty bad his first year at smu. Then they brought in a bunch of portal guys, and they had a very good overall season. How much of that was Buechele, the 3 really good veteran WRs, and the very good RB? They arguably have better players at QB and WR than we do and played a slew of awful teams.

It’s going to be interesting to see what he does in year 1 because Manure only has 1 year left unless Lashlee turns thugs around immediately. If he does what he did his first year at SMU then there won’t be a year 2.
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No question - i agree with all of that. It's not a spin job. All i tried to show at UCONN is that putrid offense with Bryant Shirreffs jumped 50 spots in offense....then came back to earth.

I like a lot of concepts Lashlee runs but also a few things i wasn't a fan of in the little tape i did watch. You need a good QB to make it work. Hicks was awful in this system....better the year before Lashlee came in. The entire offense was bad in 2018. It went from 15th to 81st in 2018 before Buechele exploded this year in the system and took them to 9th.

I prefer the spread offenses with power run schemes like OSU, OU, Clemson, etc. Keeps the defense honest and beats up on the big guys up front who get tired with tempo.....the longer the game wears on, the worse it gets for them.
 
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MrMachete said:
I saw more experience, confidence and chemistry with their skilled guys. Not a better overall skill set, IMO. I think Dallas is better than their Xavier. But, I don’t think Cam is at this point.

I think that jugg machine will help our WR CORP quite a bit. With that said, If 2 would have gone to SMU instead of Miami for his final season, he would have a much better draft grade right now. Better scheme, opportunities and coaching. Same skill set.
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That’s why I was careful to word it with “better players” not necessarily better talent. I watched a few SMU games this year, and the QB and WRs looked like better players than our guys. Of course, a lot of that could be a direct result of the scheme/spacing/tempo and all that good stuff. We’ll see soon enough, friend.
 
i cannot believe that we actually hired someone who makes sense!!!! given the fact that CMD/Blake/Strawely are on such shaky grounds.......thought M.Applewhite would be the guy because of situation in AD Dept and HC and his staff
 
So essentially what OP really wants is Diaz gone cause no OC with the credentials you’re asking for would want to work for Diaz at this current time unless they had hiring issues outside of football or a mental disorder. Can’t argue with that.
 
Tony Perps said:
He’s be fine if manny had an established offensive syatem that he wanted lashlee to install and run

Instead he’s relying on the guy to save his job.

lashlee has ONE season of coordinating an offense on his own. Without an offensive “guru” HC overseeing things.

it was for uconn. They went 3-9 and scored more than 30 points twice

this is all very LOL worthy. Manny is done
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Lots of Morons on this board. He has a top ten offense in the country and you are *****in like a little *****.
 
Tony Perps said:
He’s be fine if manny had an established offensive syatem that he wanted lashlee to install and run

Instead he’s relying on the guy to save his job.

lashlee has ONE season of coordinating an offense on his own. Without an offensive “guru” HC overseeing things.

it was for uconn. They went 3-9 and scored more than 30 points twice

this is all very LOL worthy. Manny is done
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I like the hire. A young buck to make changes
 
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Mackmiller974 said:
Regardless that was Lashlee offense at SMU. He designed the offense and called the plays
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True, and I’m not making a judgment on the hire I want to wait and see. But Dykes has almost always had great offenses. Hopefully it’s helped make Lashlee even better.
 
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