Keep Building.

Yup, forgot to mention it but yeah that missed false start for UF on a 4th down play was a major help to them.

The refs fcked us a lot, I'm not blaming them for us losing but they no doubt fcked us every chance they could.

In a game we’re going to win with little doubt, pay attention to the tobacco road refereeing in a couple of Saturdays in North Carolina. It’s always the same shlt when we’re up there
 
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And forgot to put in the OP Bandy was absolutely great in coverage.

He had 2 very good tackles, he got to Toney on his reverse play & made a very good tackle on a 3rd down that dislodged the ball from back forcing an incomplete pass.

Bandy & Alphonso Jr are going to be a Lockdown tandem throughout the year.

Bandy and good coverage is like death and taxes - guaranteed to happen
 
Loss to UF sucks. However, at the end of the season if we are 11-1 playing Clemson for a playoff spot and UF ends up 8-4 (like I I think they will), playing in the Charmin Toiletpaper Bowl, IDGAF if the Gator fans want the bragging rights over this game.

Question is- do we have a 10 win team based on what we saw? I'm leaning yes if Enos's playcalling improves (I cant get over his insistence on playaction in the UF game). The only reason I'm slightly more hopeful of a run this year after a game 1 loss vs last year is my gut says JW is a much, much better QB than Rosier based on his 1st start on a huge stage against a solid D.

Give me Kaaya's accuracy and smarts with the football combined with Rosier's mobility and you got yourself a stew.

Well said man, actually got my adrenaline going a tad after being down since the loss. LETS ROLL
 
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And forgot to put in the OP Bandy was absolutely great in coverage.

He had 2 very good tackles, he got to Toney on his reverse play & made a very good tackle on a 3rd down that dislodged the ball from back forcing an incomplete pass.

Bandy & Alphonso Jr are going to be a Lockdown tandem throughout the year.
I Just laugh at how people tried to write blades off because he didn’t “start” in highschool due to politics. He had Trevon Grimes and any receiver he lined up against on lockdown
 
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I HATE losing to UF, tough fckin loss, especially considering they're really not that good of a team.

With that said we didn't do enough to win, we had every opportunity to win & the Offense simply couldn't pull it out.

Some thoughts: Offense

- QB play was solid but too safe, not enough shots taken down the field which is understandable given it being Jarren's very first start, but I felt like we didn't challenge their secondary enough. OBVIOUSLY a lot of that had to do with OL play & being under duress all game long, but I still feel there were adjustments that could've been made to help the OL & slow down the pass rush. We needed to chip block more on the edge & move the pocket for Jarren letting him get outside & get the ball out of his hands quicker. We didn't run enough quick slants, hitches & dig routes. There were plays to be had vs UF's secondary, we left a lot of plays on the field out there.

- OL play particularly at the Tackles spot was overwhelmed. Zion & Campbell really struggled, I felt John got beat a lot but also had some good plays where he held his own. When he was able to get his feet under him & push the defender down the field he did well, but he had I believe 3-4 false starts penalties clearly due to the fact they were jumping the snap count & he was trying to get a beat on the rush. Zion looked like a True Freshman LT. If he's going to remain there we need to really help him out on his side with TE chip & quicker routes that get the ball out of his hands faster. I liked what I saw from Donaldson & Scaife, Gaynor had a bad snap late but played well most of the game.

- RB play was great from Deejay, he was by far our best offensive player on the field, he ran tough, with explosion & was leader for the offense. I wish we would've gave him the ball more, UF couldn't tackle him all night, he was a real problem out of the Wildcat & for whatever reason our best offensive plays all came from the Wildcat formation lol. Cam had a good run on the 60 yarder that of course got called back, the refs fcked us on that IMO but other than that he didn't play well. He's an outside runner, he's not a shifty jump cutter, he's a north & south straight line runner that if he gets a crease can make a big run, but he's not an inside runner by any means. We need Lingard to get healthy & get out there, his speed & homerun hitting ability is needed & when is Robert Burns ever going to get a snap in a game? We can't keep just having 2 backs every season, if he's fckin healthy put him out there & let him run please.

- TE play was very good from Brevin, he was the 2nd best player on the offense & accept that one dropped pass, he played very well. Mallory seemed to let the moment get to him, couldn't catch a thing, I don't think it's going to be a problem, but he's gotta step up as the season progresses, we need some big time production out of that kid this year & I'm still high on his ability. Just catch the ball kid. Michael Irvin JR, again if he's healthy play him. Also, what happened to the 2 TE sets? We barely ran them...

- WR group. My initial thought is due to how bad the OL was pass protecting it's too difficult to make a fair assessment, however JT4 had a very frustrating drop in the end zone vs Henderson, it was a good route, he just simply couldn't catch it. He had other routes where he had beat the DB & was open but again, the QB was under duress all night & the ball just wasn't coming out quick enough. I liked what I saw from KJ, felt we should've got him the ball more on quick routes & wished we would've taken a shot down the field with him in a one on one, he was beating Marco Wilson all night. Also, Enos... Please give the Jet Sweeps to JT4 or Pope ONLY. No disrespect to KJ but he's not a shifty make you miss type WR, he's a straight line speed guy.

Overall Offensive play calling; We need to get the WR's more integrated in this Offense, 214yds passing is not good, YES I KNOW THE OL DIDN'T GIVE THE QB TIME, but there are still things that can be done to diversify the offense & get the ball to our playmakers. What the fck is the sense in having JT4, KJ, Harley, Hightower, Pope, Wiggins, Payton & Njoku and not utilize them? We need to play out of the gun at least 60% of the snaps on O, too much under center ball. SPREAD THE FIELD OUT, USE FORMATIONS TO PULL DEFENDERS OUT OF THE BOX PLEASE? Also, can I get a Wheel route with Deejay or Cam one time? Every pass to the back doesn't have to be a telegraphed screen play. I'm expecting improvements by UNC & the rest of the season.

CLEAN UP THE PENALTIES! A lot of those penalties were complete horsesh*t from the refs, like the 2 Defensive PI's on Blades & Rome Finley & the bullsh*t holding call on the 60yd run, but even so still we played way too undisciplined, way too many Delay of game penalties & false start penalties, that comes from an unorganzied offense that is rattled by the moment. We MUST get that sh*t cleaned up though.

Defense:

They performed well, Run Defense did a fantastic job shutting them down only allowing 52yds rushing & kept Perine completely contained. They also didn't let Frank's gets loose much except for one play that should've been a sack if Rousseau wraps him up.

Pass Defense IMO was very good, aside from 2 big plays by Kadarius Toney (told yall shut him down, you shut the whole thing down) & that deep ball to Hammond. On that play, Frierson gave him a free release & had bad depth with his feet he got beat off the line & doesn't have the recovery speed to catch up to a kid like that, he needed to use his arm length to jam him at the line & played him outside pushing him towards Safety help, other than that he played well that was a great PBU on 3rd down by him & he got into the backfield early in the game getting a good TFL, that's where he'll excel as an in-Box Striker in short area coverage. But other than those 2 plays I felt the secondary played very well, Al Blades was very good in coverage IMO, I knew he was going to ball this season & he's only going to get better, that PI on him was bogus AF that was literally perfect coverage.

- Safety play was good not great, once they gel they'll be much better. As the president of the Amari Carter fan club I was of course happy with how well he played, he didn't play perfect but he showed something in that game, he has more range than everybody thinks he does & once he & Gurvan strengthen their communication on the backend I think we'll see big time play from both, that was a great INT on his part & don't act shocked when my boy ends up with 3 or 4 more this season, I'm telling yall he's gonna be good for us. Gurvan took a few bad angles particularly on that long run by Toney, AC5 did too, they both missed tackles (which was a problem early on) but AC started making some good Tackles late. Gurvan otherwise played well, he can tackle & when he knows what to do he's a missle out there, they both just need some time. Hopefully we can get Bolden in soon because we'll need his athleticism out there.

Last year the most pass yards we gave up in any game the whole season was 222yds total that's it, if we tackle Toney on the screen & play better coverage on the Hammond pass, we would've been well under the 254yds we gave up vs UF which is **** good as is considering we lost 2 starting Safeties, a staring CB & was down in depth with Ivey & Bolden being out, not to mention losing 2 DB's before the season to transfer. Our Pass Defense is ELITE, I'm not afraid to say it, if only allowing 254yds with 2INT's is the "worst" they play this year then I'll take that all **** day!

- The interior DL did great IMO, I really liked what I saw from Ford & Bethel, they were stout up front, not much interior pressure was created but they were great in the run game. Patchan, Garvin, Hill & Rousseau did a good job forcing Franks out side of the pocket & maintaing contain on the edge, Rousseau IMO was the most disruptive & should've had 2 sacks if he wraps up. We need to generate way more pass rush off the edge though, it's necessary for the success of the Defense that we have heavy pressure from the DE's.

- The LB group didn't play their best game, Shaq was good I need to rewatch again to reevaluate fully how they looked. I thought they looked good vs the run, but in Blitzing situations they just weren't get there enough, not that it's entirely their fault but I'm used to seeing them get after the QB & get in the backfield a lot more. Like I said need to reevaluate again.

- Special Teams was good in tackling, they didn't let any big returns happen, I liked our Punting & Bubba Baxa was good except for the missed FG. The fake FG run was good too, another bullsh*t holding call from the refs. Every time we made a big play the refs made sure they fcked us smfh.

JT4... JUST LET THE BALL GO MAN. We gifted them a TD because of that.

Overall, despite 14 penalties for 118yds & all the offensive mishaps we still had multiple chances to win, we unfortunately didn't but we fought & were not intimidated one bit by UF, we fought til the end & that's an improvement from last year. We should've won that **** game, we beat ourselves smh. We need to get the penalties cleaned up, we need to work on tackling & we absolutely need to get that OT spots solved. Idk what, but we need to do something to help Zion & John, growing pains I understand but giving up 10 sacks is a recipe for disaster. If we plan on winning 10 games this year WE MUST SOLVE THE OL PROBLEM.

The jury is still out but I saw some good things from this team, I still think we're in for a good season just need to to get some things fixed quick. But it ain't nowhere near over yet, we can a make a big comeback statement by beating a bad UNC team on the road, just keep building.



If this doesn't happen Toney is completely out of the game. That one play he had was the only thing he did all night. But yeah he looks fast and shifty. Was surprised they didn't get him more involved.
 

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Was it ever this bad back in the 80's and 90s?

Was it ever this bad with the refs back then?

Do the words “Cleveland crossed the plane” mean anything to you?

It’s always been the case that Miami has to beat the other team + the refs.
 
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Saw all that, but imo they called it earlier than that. 10-15 yards before where they ended up when the ball was coming down, Al wasn't even looking anywhere near the QB. Back completely turned. Whatever though, there's a hundred other calls to dispute or we get screwed on **** near every game.


Nah man it was just a bad call, there was no Pass interference on the play, he had his head around.
 
I Just laugh at how people tried to write bandy off because he didn’t “start” in highschool due to politics. He had Trevon Grimes and any receiver he lined up against on lockdown
I think you meant Blades & you right.

This board spent all offseason talking about how dangerous Grimes was, he's the most overrated "5-star" WR I've seen since Ermon Lane.
 
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I HATE losing to UF, tough fckin loss, especially considering they're really not that good of a team.

With that said we didn't do enough to win, we had every opportunity to win & the Offense simply couldn't pull it out.

Some thoughts: Offense

- QB play was solid but too safe, not enough shots taken down the field which is understandable given it being Jarren's very first start, but I felt like we didn't challenge their secondary enough. OBVIOUSLY a lot of that had to do with OL play & being under duress all game long, but I still feel there were adjustments that could've been made to help the OL & slow down the pass rush. We needed to chip block more on the edge & move the pocket for Jarren letting him get outside & get the ball out of his hands quicker. We didn't run enough quick slants, hitches & dig routes. There were plays to be had vs UF's secondary, we left a lot of plays on the field out there.

- OL play particularly at the Tackles spot was overwhelmed. Zion & Campbell really struggled, I felt John got beat a lot but also had some good plays where he held his own. When he was able to get his feet under him & push the defender down the field he did well, but he had I believe 3-4 false starts penalties clearly due to the fact they were jumping the snap count & he was trying to get a beat on the rush. Zion looked like a True Freshman LT. If he's going to remain there we need to really help him out on his side with TE chip & quicker routes that get the ball out of his hands faster. I liked what I saw from Donaldson & Scaife, Gaynor had a bad snap late but played well most of the game.

- RB play was great from Deejay, he was by far our best offensive player on the field, he ran tough, with explosion & was leader for the offense. I wish we would've gave him the ball more, UF couldn't tackle him all night, he was a real problem out of the Wildcat & for whatever reason our best offensive plays all came from the Wildcat formation lol. Cam had a good run on the 60 yarder that of course got called back, the refs fcked us on that IMO but other than that he didn't play well. He's an outside runner, he's not a shifty jump cutter, he's a north & south straight line runner that if he gets a crease can make a big run, but he's not an inside runner by any means. We need Lingard to get healthy & get out there, his speed & homerun hitting ability is needed & when is Robert Burns ever going to get a snap in a game? We can't keep just having 2 backs every season, if he's fckin healthy put him out there & let him run please.

- TE play was very good from Brevin, he was the 2nd best player on the offense & accept that one dropped pass, he played very well. Mallory seemed to let the moment get to him, couldn't catch a thing, I don't think it's going to be a problem, but he's gotta step up as the season progresses, we need some big time production out of that kid this year & I'm still high on his ability. Just catch the ball kid. Michael Irvin JR, again if he's healthy play him. Also, what happened to the 2 TE sets? We barely ran them...

- WR group. My initial thought is due to how bad the OL was pass protecting it's too difficult to make a fair assessment, however JT4 had a very frustrating drop in the end zone vs Henderson, it was a good route, he just simply couldn't catch it. He had other routes where he had beat the DB & was open but again, the QB was under duress all night & the ball just wasn't coming out quick enough. I liked what I saw from KJ, felt we should've got him the ball more on quick routes & wished we would've taken a shot down the field with him in a one on one, he was beating Marco Wilson all night. Also, Enos... Please give the Jet Sweeps to JT4 or Pope ONLY. No disrespect to KJ but he's not a shifty make you miss type WR, he's a straight line speed guy.

Overall Offensive play calling; We need to get the WR's more integrated in this Offense, 214yds passing is not good, YES I KNOW THE OL DIDN'T GIVE THE QB TIME, but there are still things that can be done to diversify the offense & get the ball to our playmakers. What the fck is the sense in having JT4, KJ, Harley, Hightower, Pope, Wiggins, Payton & Njoku and not utilize them? We need to play out of the gun at least 60% of the snaps on O, too much under center ball. SPREAD THE FIELD OUT, USE FORMATIONS TO PULL DEFENDERS OUT OF THE BOX PLEASE? Also, can I get a Wheel route with Deejay or Cam one time? Every pass to the back doesn't have to be a telegraphed screen play. I'm expecting improvements by UNC & the rest of the season.

CLEAN UP THE PENALTIES! A lot of those penalties were complete horsesh*t from the refs, like the 2 Defensive PI's on Blades & Rome Finley & the bullsh*t holding call on the 60yd run, but even so still we played way too undisciplined, way too many Delay of game penalties & false start penalties, that comes from an unorganzied offense that is rattled by the moment. We MUST get that sh*t cleaned up though.

Defense:

They performed well, Run Defense did a fantastic job shutting them down only allowing 52yds rushing & kept Perine completely contained. They also didn't let Frank's gets loose much except for one play that should've been a sack if Rousseau wraps him up.

Pass Defense IMO was very good, aside from 2 big plays by Kadarius Toney (told yall shut him down, you shut the whole thing down) & that deep ball to Hammond. On that play, Frierson gave him a free release & had bad depth with his feet he got beat off the line & doesn't have the recovery speed to catch up to a kid like that, he needed to use his arm length to jam him at the line & played him outside pushing him towards Safety help, other than that he played well that was a great PBU on 3rd down by him & he got into the backfield early in the game getting a good TFL, that's where he'll excel as an in-Box Striker in short area coverage. But other than those 2 plays I felt the secondary played very well, Al Blades was very good in coverage IMO, I knew he was going to ball this season & he's only going to get better, that PI on him was bogus AF that was literally perfect coverage.

- Safety play was good not great, once they gel they'll be much better. As the president of the Amari Carter fan club I was of course happy with how well he played, he didn't play perfect but he showed something in that game, he has more range than everybody thinks he does & once he & Gurvan strengthen their communication on the backend I think we'll see big time play from both, that was a great INT on his part & don't act shocked when my boy ends up with 3 or 4 more this season, I'm telling yall he's gonna be good for us. Gurvan took a few bad angles particularly on that long run by Toney, AC5 did too, they both missed tackles (which was a problem early on) but AC started making some good Tackles late. Gurvan otherwise played well, he can tackle & when he knows what to do he's a missle out there, they both just need some time. Hopefully we can get Bolden in soon because we'll need his athleticism out there.

Last year the most pass yards we gave up in any game the whole season was 222yds total that's it, if we tackle Toney on the screen & play better coverage on the Hammond pass, we would've been well under the 254yds we gave up vs UF which is **** good as is considering we lost 2 starting Safeties, a staring CB & was down in depth with Ivey & Bolden being out, not to mention losing 2 DB's before the season to transfer. Our Pass Defense is ELITE, I'm not afraid to say it, if only allowing 254yds with 2INT's is the "worst" they play this year then I'll take that all **** day!

- The interior DL did great IMO, I really liked what I saw from Ford & Bethel, they were stout up front, not much interior pressure was created but they were great in the run game. Patchan, Garvin, Hill & Rousseau did a good job forcing Franks out side of the pocket & maintaing contain on the edge, Rousseau IMO was the most disruptive & should've had 2 sacks if he wraps up. We need to generate way more pass rush off the edge though, it's necessary for the success of the Defense that we have heavy pressure from the DE's.

- The LB group didn't play their best game, Shaq was good I need to rewatch again to reevaluate fully how they looked. I thought they looked good vs the run, but in Blitzing situations they just weren't get there enough, not that it's entirely their fault but I'm used to seeing them get after the QB & get in the backfield a lot more. Like I said need to reevaluate again.

- Special Teams was good in tackling, they didn't let any big returns happen, I liked our Punting & Bubba Baxa was good except for the missed FG. The fake FG run was good too, another bullsh*t holding call from the refs. Every time we made a big play the refs made sure they fcked us smfh.

JT4... JUST LET THE BALL GO MAN. We gifted them a TD because of that.

Overall, despite 14 penalties for 118yds & all the offensive mishaps we still had multiple chances to win, we unfortunately didn't but we fought & were not intimidated one bit by UF, we fought til the end & that's an improvement from last year. We should've won that **** game, we beat ourselves smh. We need to get the penalties cleaned up, we need to work on tackling & we absolutely need to get that OT spots solved. Idk what, but we need to do something to help Zion & John, growing pains I understand but giving up 10 sacks is a recipe for disaster. If we plan on winning 10 games this year WE MUST SOLVE THE OL PROBLEM.

The jury is still out but I saw some good things from this team, I still think we're in for a good season just need to to get some things fixed quick. But it ain't nowhere near over yet, we can a make a big comeback statement by beating a bad UNC team on the road, just keep building.
Agree with pretty much everything in this post great job liberty like always.
 
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I agree with this l. I’m disappointed not mad. I saw the foundation of what could be a really good football team out there.

Playing 6 on 6 and stuffing the UF rushing attack. I think most ppl don’t grasp what an accomplishment that is. And what that says about the front we have.

Dan Mullen has made 3 QB famous running that same system in an almost unstoppable manner.

Our DBs locked down their WRs. I look forward to see how they play vs more wide open passing attacks and also I think we will see our sack count up when we play more pocket passer. We clearly were giving a ton of respect to Franks running ability.

Now on the offense (penalties aside) and I think it’s
Nitpicking because heck...if one of our two best players makes a catch we win that game...so even thought it wasn’t pretty it was working enough. I think the only thing we could have done more was as EL said give the jet sweeps to JT4, chip more and work more short passes.


Overall im happy with the vibe of the team I saw.....IF AND THIS IS A BIG IF, IF Manny can actually clean up the penalties. Shannon and Golden could never get the penalties cleaned up.
Richt did a good job with it. If manny can get it cleaned up. The ACC is going to be destroyed.
 
Also forgot to add, that Tate being used as a Zone Read QB in the Red Zone has to be a wrinkle in this offense.

Running him outside is a mistake, he doesn't have lateral quickness to escape while running to the sideline to but in the Zone read reading the DE/LB with his quick area burst going foward he's good for a nice 7-8yd gain on a run vs a Defense that isn't expecting it.
Would have to re-watch but live I thought he made the wrong read and gave when he should've pulled on the ZR play they ran.
 
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Would have to re-watch but live I thought he made the wrong read and gave when he should've pulled on the ZR play they ran.
That's exactly what I thought when I saw it!

I was like if he would've pulled the ball he'd still be running lol, their LB's bit down immediately on the handoff.

We gotta work the Zone Read this season, have to.
 
I just don't see how we can ever be back with the way the crooked ncaa rigs ever game we play via the zebras.

We'll have to get back to the point where we field a super team ala 2001 where we break off 3 60 yard plays in a row.. They can't call a flag on 3 of those in a row for obvious reasons.

This is ridiculous and I wonder how many of these @sshole zebras are gonna burn in **** one day for this crooked sh*t. Was it ever this bad back in the 80's and 90s?

Watch the '90 season Cotton Bowl (1991).
Started the game with a 1st and 40 and still drove the field for a short FG.
200+ yards in penalties, 40+ point win.

Ahhh...good times.
 
Agree, he was absolutely holding onto the ball for too long.

He's safe with the ball & doesn't want to turn the ball over, but because of that he's too safe & won't let it go unless his man is completely open.

He needs to speed up his processing & come off his first read quicker, but there were some things he did well.

Also when he scrambles he needs to be more decisive, he dances around too much looking for a last minute throw but that allows pass rushers time to catch up to him, he needs to decide that when he's gonna tuck & run to just tuck & run.
Yep. The game has to slow down for him. Not sure what you can do to speed up the process except keep giving him reps. This is where it hurts not giving him snaps last year.

These days preserving a redshirt is not a significant consideration unless you're a developmental lineman. If you can play, get them out there.
 
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