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Reyrey said:
Okay. Agree to disagree. You care wayyyy too much about this. Good luck with that email.
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Who said I was sending an e-mail, besides you and your faulty reading comprehension?

I said it was fair game. If people want to send an e-mail, that is their choice. She is a public employee, paid by the taxpayers, and her e-mail is a public record.

If someone wants to contact her, that is fair game.
 
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Reyrey said:
No, that’s what I’m saying. She’s getting killed on Twitter already. I’m sure her job is miserable. Honestly, she’s probably the only person in Gainesville that seemed to care. I’m not saying what she did was fine. But we kicked the **** out of them on the field. We don’t need to flood a random chicks work email with a thousand emails. We are on to bigger and better things. Emailing a staffer is next level petty imo
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Her job is not miserable. Assistant ADs are very well paid for job responsibilities.

All I want is the worst possible outcome for the belly crawlers. I'm certainly not emailing anybody, but she (and UF) deserve to get roasted on social media. Run up the shares. Exploit every advantage. Negative recruit these clowns to death.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Go **** off.

They are exactly the same actions. In fact, in today's world, employees putting their hands on students or student-athletes is considered to be worse than it was in 1978.

I could give a **** about a "Yahoo article". She did the actions, she said the words, no matter what outlet runs the story.

And what you fail to realize is that ALL e-mails to public university officials are logged and recorded. She can't just hit "delete" because she gets some mean e-mails. It's all public record. So if a university official does something improper that makes a university look bad, and people complain about that, there is a record of the complaint, it cannot be ignored.

Whether UF fires her or not (and I lean to "not" in the absence of a UF President), this cannot be swept under the rug.
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You soft as ****. punching a player is not the same. It can be public record all you want but I doubt she has to forward an email from an opposing fan. If aforementioned soft fan emailed her supervisor or someone higher then maybe. If somebody does something to you at work do you email them or go to HR. You soft as **** if a woman tells you to shut up and you crying like this?
 
We are very lucky that no one she touched so much as pushed back, which is a natural reaction to being grabbed or touched. The national headlines would be very different and likely would have been used by those with an agenda to drown out news of our romp in the swamp.

So by all means, report away if you choose. She deserves whatever comes of it, which is likely nothing.
 
caneforlifeforreal said:
Well you're not wrong at the end

Except I don't think Woody Hayes is similar. I mean he went on the field and disrupted the game. That inherently is different.

That being said **** the Gators. They were habitual line steppers with Tebow erasing the line so if they cry foul for toeing the line with a Karen . . . Well **** em
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Did you actually watch the 1978 Gator Bowl? I did.

Woody Hayes did not go onto the field. The incident happened on the sidelines, when the Clemson player ran out of bounds. The disruption the game (it was actually a change of possession) was due to what happened AFTER Hayes hit the Clemson player. Hayes berated a ref and had to be held back by his DC. In fact, Hayes got two 15-yard penalties, one for his first action against the Clemson player, one for his comments to the ref. Making it worse was that Hayes refused to apologize.

Now, I realize that Katie Turner's actions were "after" the game. You seem to be arguing that somehow making physical contact with opposing players and coaches is "worse" when it "disrupts the game", and less harmless when it does not happen on the field and/or disrupt the game. I'm not so sure that most university employers would agree with you on that.

And what is ALSO similar is that Woody Hayes' actions didn't hurt or injure anyone, and the player(s) in question didn't seem to be harmed. OK, but that still doesn't make the actions right or tolerable.

It is bad and unacceptable behavior, whether it happens during the game or after, whether it causes injury or not. That kind of stuff should not be happening at all. She was clearly upset. She didn't trip and fall to make contact with a coach or player. THAT is what is similar. And THIS is why you hire security to do these difficult kinds of tasks, without getting personally involved.

At a bare minimum, she needs to issue an apology. Every day that passes makes it more challenging for her apology to repair the damage. Maybe she survives this, maybe not.
 
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Poptimus said:
We are very lucky that no one she touched so much as pushed back, which is a natural reaction to being grabbed or touched. The national headlines would be very different and likely would have been used by those with an agenda to drown out news of our romp in the swamp.

So by all means, report away if you choose. She deserves whatever comes of it, which is likely nothing.
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Correct.

As we all know from watching sports, it is usually the reaction that draws the penalty flag, not the original action.

If any UM coach or player had swiped her hands away, we would be villainized for attacking a poor, defenseless woman, regardless of the circumstances or confusion.
 
pyhooya said:
You soft as ****. punching a player is not the same. It can be public record all you want but I doubt she has to forward an email from an opposing fan. If aforementioned soft fan emailed her supervisor or someone higher then maybe. If somebody does something to you at work do you email them or go to HR. You soft as **** if a woman tells you to shut up and you crying like this?
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Hilarious.

"Punching a player". Let's see, an old 60 year old white man standing on the SIDE of a player swung his flabby arm around and hit a player IN HIS SHOULDER PADS. As Charlie Bauman can tell you, he was completely unhurt and Woody Hayes probably did more damage to his own arm than to Charlie Bauman.

I get it. You are just unintelligent, and from your reactions, it seems highly likely that you have committed HR violations and been reported for them. Not only are you freely acknowledging a double standard as to the behavior of a woman (as opposed to a man), but you have also misinterpreted everything I said about the e-mails.

First, I'm not sending an e-mail. Second, anyone who wants to send an e-mail can do so. Third, she doesn't have to "forward" an e-mail to her employer, they already have it. The University of Florida owns the domain name, and all of the e-mails to Katie Turner are the property of the University of Florida. That is why Connor Stallions and Chris Partridge and Matt Weiss were fired from Michigan, because of elements of cover-up in an attempt to delete e-mails and other records.

If people want to e-mail Katie Turner, that is their right. And the University of Florida doesn't need her to "forward" any e-mails to them. They already have those e-mails.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Hilarious.

"Punching a player". Let's see, an old 60 year old white man standing on the SIDE of a player swung his flabby arm around and hit a player IN HIS SHOULDER PADS. As Charlie Bauman can tell you, he was completely unhurt and Woody Hayes probably did more damage to his own arm than to Charlie Bauman.

I get it. You are just unintelligent, and from your reactions, it seems highly likely that you have committed HR violations and been reported for them. Not only are you freely acknowledging a double standard as to the behavior of a woman (as opposed to a man), but you have also misinterpreted everything I said about the e-mails.

First, I'm not sending an e-mail. Second, anyone who wants to send an e-mail can do so. Third, she doesn't have to "forward" an e-mail to her employer, they already have it. The University of Florida owns the domain name, and all of the e-mails to Katie Turner are the property of the University of Florida. That is why Connor Stallions and Chris Partridge and Matt Weiss were fired from Michigan, because of elements of cover-up in an attempt to delete e-mails and other records.

If people want to e-mail Katie Turner, that is their right. And the University of Florida doesn't need her to "forward" any e-mails to them. They already have those e-mails.
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Weak minded person......go to bed. Get up tomorrow and work on your reading comprehension
 
TheOriginalCane said:
She's not a staffer. She is an Assistant Athletic Director.

I don't care about the outcome of the game or "Twitter karma", this was unacceptable behavior for which she should apologize immediately.

It was not OK. I'm not saying she is a criminal, but Woody Hayes was fired over 45 years ago for similarly losing his cool at the end of a tough loss.

It's not right for a high-level salaried officer of a major university to be laying hands on, and yelling at, opposing coaches and players. It's just not, and we should not be tacitly establishing a double standard simply because she is a woman. It is improper behavior for anyone in that role.
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You're comparing what she did to old Woody Hayes coldcocking that Clemson player? Wow
 
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IbzRlz said:
You're comparing what she did to old Woody Hayes coldcocking that Clemson player? Wow
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Oh lord, here we go again. Guys who can't distinguish between an "example" and "equating two things".

There are elements of similarity and elements of difference between what Woody Hayes did and what Katie Turner did.

"Coldcocking"? Good lord, someone clearly hasn't seen the video. Hayes was standing to the SIDE of Bauman and swung his arm in a circular motion to make contact with his fist and forearm across Bauman's chest. There was no direct punch, where the force of the punch was going directly into Bauman's chest.

To be clear. Yes, Hayes' hit did minimal damage. Yes, it was during a game. And since 1978, the standards for acceptable behavior by a salaried university employee towards a student-athlete have changed. So even if Turner's actions were "less than" Hayes', it is still not very difficult to see them as a fireable offense, no matter how many tuff guys want to come out and act like "getting hit by a woman is no big deal".

That is not to equate THE ACTIONS, but simply to make a comparison between the type of behavior that could cost you your job in 1978 and 2024. And the threshold in 2024 is a LOT lower.
 
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