2026 Karsten Busch - unreal leg power for a lean 223 pounder --going deep on the Squat also.

I don't really care how tall they are as long as they physically put together. Give me guys that are instinctual (ie good recognition skills), fast, and like to hit
I’m not hung up on measurables especially if the player isn’t always in an adverse position based on his lack thereof. Zeke Marcelin comes to mind here. He’s a couple of ticks faster than Flagg plus his room is full of freaks(⏸️), so his expectations aren’t as high. Kid has answered when his number is called, and I expect that to continue…
 
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I’m not hung up on measurables especially if the player isn’t always in an adverse position based on his lack thereof. Zeke Marcelin comes to mind here. He’s a couple of ticks faster than Flagg plus his room is full of freaks(⏸️), so his expectations aren’t as high. Kid has answered when his number is called, and I expect that to continue…
i think he will surprise through his career...he isnt"small" he maybe shorter..But dude weight wise is there for a backer...
 
i think he will surprise through his career...he isnt"small" he maybe shorter..But dude weight wise is there for a backer...
Which matters way more. We've had plenty of stud LBs who were at best 6'0. A 6'0 230 LB is perfectly fine (in college or the NFL). I don't know where people get this tall LB thing.
 
i think he will surprise through his career...he isnt"small" he maybe shorter..But dude weight wise is there for a backer...

I wasn't a fan of the Marcellin offer, partly due to his measurables but mostly because his highlights reminded me of Flagg. He seems a step too slow for me. Perryman was not the tallest and Spence was a little taller and a lot lighter in the pants. But they balled. I did not see that with Marcellin. Hope I'm wrong.
 
I wasn't a fan of the Marcellin offer, partly due to his measurables but mostly because his highlights reminded me of Flagg. He seems a step too slow for me. Perryman was not the tallest and Spence was a little taller and a lot lighter in the pants. But they balled. I did not see that with Marcellin. Hope I'm wrong.
Spence and Perryman were also very explosive and had a good first step. Flagg was not explosive and his first step looked like he was stuck in concrete. I haven’t seen much of Marcellin’s tape, so I can’t comment on him. But if you are saying his tape reminds you of Flagg’s, then that concerns me a little. He may not ever see the field.
 
Spence and Perryman were also very explosive and had a good first step. Flagg was not explosive and his first step looked like he was stuck in concrete. I haven’t seen much of Marcellin’s tape, so I can’t comment on him. But if you are saying his tape reminds you of Flagg’s, then that concerns me a little. He may not ever see the field.
dont know if yall know this...but Flagg started here ...then transferred way and started at Missouri an put up good numbers..
 

@Confidence1000 …we have a serious RED ALERT with this one. 😮😮😮

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I was a mediocre tweener linebacker like 25 years ago so I’ve always kept an eye for that spot

Been a miserable few decades around here but Heatherman immediately gave me hope

If you remember he got here and flat out said he threw our LB recruiting board in the trash and started over
So this past cycle was his first real evals? Or does this go back to when he was hired, cause it would be hard to start from scratch with what we had on board already
 
dont know if yall know this...but Flagg started here ...then transferred way and started at Missouri an put up good

I personally don’t think Flagg was a championship caliber player. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t a decent player. I want Bain, Toney, Mauigoa and Cam Ward equivalents as our starting of linebackers . I know you do too.
 
I personally don’t think Flagg was a championship caliber player. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t a decent player. I want Bain, Toney, Mauigoa and Cam Ward equivalents as our starting of linebackers . I know you do too.
Corey Flagg contributed intangibles that are just as important
 
dont know if yall know this...but Flagg started here ...then transferred way and started at Missouri an put up good numbers..
Oh yes, I am well aware Flagg started here, and was our best LB for two of those seasons. We also had a walk-on linebacker get quite a bit of burn for a couple seasons. That just showed how bad our LB corps was for those years. He was a good leader, good teammate and smart player. I’ll give him all that. He just wasn’t very good overall.

If Marcellin’s physical attributes are similar to Flaggs’s, he probably won’t play much. Not in Hearherman’s defense and with our infusion of talent at linebacker.
 
We had a lot of talented LBs throughout the 10s who we couldn’t keep on campus, many of them were hidden gem types too. Of course, they were hidden because of grades/character/injuries/attitude/compensation/playing time/etc.

Besides the obvious mainstays like Denzel, Spence, and Shaq; we lost out on year(s) of Eddie Johnson, Alex Figueroa, Arthur Brown, Gabe Terry, Gionni Paul, Jermaine Grace, Juwon Young, AQM (3-4 lol), and Devante Bond.

That’s before getting into the layups we passed on like Skai Moore and so forth or guys who never got started like Josh Witt.

Thankfully we’re at a point where if we miss a layup or just str8 up get beat, it’s easier for them to circle back (Jarquez carter & Xavier Lucas) and we have enough meaningful depth where we aren’t relying on Devante Bond’s transcript to be good enough to save us or an ncaa investigation to go along smoothly (Grace/Young/AQM) etc. . . . That way we aren’t living and dying by how good Raphael Kirby turns out to be.

I still remember seeing Juwon Young pull-up in his foreign at the handicap parking spot when Going to the dining hall….lol

Once Manny Diaz gets on campus, he inherited the 3 LBs who were already committed in the ‘16 class and he proves to everyone that—oh wait, oh no—it actually can get worse than Al Golden and Dorito when it comes to defensive recruiting.

Not completely surprised SMU under Rhett doesn’t have a ton of HS recruits because Manny’s staffers had to have some level of acceptance of what was going on with his lazy steering of the ship.
 
I wasn't a fan of the Marcellin offer, partly due to his measurables but mostly because his highlights reminded me of Flagg. He seems a step too slow for me. Perryman was not the tallest and Spence was a little taller and a lot lighter in the pants. But they balled. I did not see that with Marcellin. Hope I'm wrong.
Agree, I just don’t think he has the required athleticism to play at this level, but I hope I’m wrong.
 
dont know if yall know this...but Flagg started here ...then transferred way and started at Missouri an put up good numbers..
And the fact that flagg started here says all you need to know about the previous staff. I’ll never forget the play he made against Clemson for us, but that individual should’ve never have been the starting linebacker at the University of Miami and I think we can both agree on that.
 
He was a leader on the field, too, when the team needed it.

There's a place for those kind of guys, too.
Absolutely there is, but not as your starter. He’s what you would call a really good locker room guy. But if you’re starting a player with that kind of lack of athleticism, eventually it’s gonna burn you. I’ll always be grateful for the play you made against Clemson and that was all brains right there. But if we’re being honest, he should’ve never have been the starting linebacker at the University of Miami. That’s just a fact.
 
So this past cycle was his first real evals? Or does this go back to when he was hired, cause it would be hard to start from scratch with what we had on board already
I can’t say for sure I only know secondhand info

That summer we were supposedly in play for all kinds of top LBs but we had no chance. It was too late for Heatherman to do much of anything. I do remember specifically them basically saying they were starting over at the spot

We flipped Busch I think that was a realistic flip he identified and made it happen

Now that he showed everyone how nasty his defense can be we are seeing these big recruits jump on board
 
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