Kaaya is unspectacular and looking more like Steve Walsh

[Miami82]

I guess I just mean that they're different players.

Kaaya has more arm talent and in the coming years I think you're going to see his pre-snap game rival Dorsey's.

That very well could be true down the line. Right now the pre-snap changes are coming from the sideline. There have been quite a few times where the D loaded the box and he didn't adjust. With Dorsey, he did it every time. Even his RS frosh year. I like Kaaya, but he isn't even close to attempting to wear Dorsey's jock.

Dorsey was as flustered as you can get in his first real test at Washington in his true sophomore season.

I was at the game. Flustered is a bit much. That is the game where Portis was going off and for some god forsaken reason they stopped giving him the rock.

Being at the game might have robbed you of the chance to see closeups of his face and his mannerisms. He was rattled and flustered.

He regrouped and went on to greatness, but guys who make it seem like he walked on water from day 1 are being disingenuous. There were plenty of bumps in the road for him just like anyone else who has been great.

That's fair. This was his stats from that game. Miami Fla-Dorsey 15-34-0-215 and Butch's comments: "This was his first major opportunity against a really good football team," Davis said. "I don't know if Washington rattled him as much as the experience of him not ever playing in front of a crowd like this, on the road, all those things. I thought he did some things that were very good."

Also Portis went 6 carries for 91 yds. smh

 

[Tobias23]

Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing

I usually like your posts, but this is just ignorant. Walsh lost what, one game as a starter. Kaaya's upside as far as the NFL goes is probably a lot higher, but that will be determined years down the road. Go Canes!

I will take Steve Walsh any day! The kid was money back in the day. I think Kaaya is going to be GREAT at the U. We will be talking about him after hea leaves for the NFL like all the great QBs at the U. This kid is very special, especially what he is doing as true freshman. The 2015 Hurricanes should be one **** of a team tobe reckoned with!

 

[Tobias23]

Anybody wo trashes Ken Dorsey should get off this site. The man brought us a National Championship, and should have been 2 if we don't get the bad call against Ohio State. Sure, he had tons of talent around him, but he knew how to use it, and how to manage the game! Do not go off his pro career, we are talking one of the best college QBs to play the game. As for Kaaya, I think he has the same intelligence to manage the game, but with a much better arm! We should be thanking Coley for getting this kid to come from Cali to play for us. He is truly special!

 

[Spindrift]

I was thinking dorsey. Manage your playmakers keep us in the game and don't make mistakes. .

Anybody wo trashes Ken Dorsey should get off this site. The man brought us a National Championship, and should have been 2 if we don't get the bad call against Ohio State. Sure, he had tons of talent around him, but he knew how to use it, and how to manage the game! Do not go off his pro career, we are talking one of the best college QBs to play the game. As for Kaaya, I think he has the same intelligence to manage the game, but with a much better arm! We should be thanking Coley for getting this kid to come from Cali to play for us. He is truly special!

How old are these punks calling Dorsey anything but spectacular? Internet hero's that have never really experienced a great Cane team?
Dorsey won some of UM's biggest games and was ******* money. Short, intermediate and the long ball were like an extension of his arm. He was extremely accurate and had a beautiful bomb.
Ken Dorsey made Miami the name that stood out in college football. His play and resulting winning was the very best Miami has ever had.

If Kaaya, can come close to Dorsey as far as passing, we will win a championship sooner than later.

 

[accomadus]

I think some of you need to put this in perspective:

For all the love that former #1 QB Chrisitan Hackenburg gets from the media, Kaaya statistically, is much better.

In fact, this season, Kaaya is killing Hack.

Hack: http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/552329/christian-hackenberg

Messiah: http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/3123048/brad-kaaya

 

[DiegoCane]

I was thinking dorsey. Manage your playmakers keep us in the game and don't make mistakes. .

No. Dorsey did more than that. His pre snap reads and time through his progressions after the snap is what made Dorsey. Kaaya isn't close to that yet.

Dorsey could also be INCREDIBLY inaccurate.

You serious right now? 58% 9565 yds 86 td and 28 int with a career rating of 147.4. Hovering around 60% is average but Incredibly inaccurate? That's got to be a joke. Dorsey wasn't a "game manager" or a "product of the system". He was our college Tom Brady. Dude was a gamer, a true cane, and a football genius. Some of you kill me.

I agree, incredibly inaccurate is a an overreaction. However, 58% is not very good.

Systems in the passing game, plus rule changes have increased completion percentages in the last 10 years. 58% 10 years ago doesn't equal 58% today.

Foe instance, in 2001 the NFL league average was 59% compared to 63.4% today.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I think some of you need to put this in perspective:

For all the love that former #1 QB Chrisitan Hackenburg gets from the media, Kaaya statistically, is much better.

In fact, this season, Kaaya is killing Hack.

Hack: http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/552329/christian-hackenberg

Messiah: http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/3123048/brad-kaaya

So true. Penn State's o-line (amazingly, as that's the one thing you should still be able to recruit in the Big & Slow Ten) hasn't played well but Hackenburg is nothing special so far either. Every time I watch one of their games for every one thing he does that's impressive he'll do two that are equally unimpressive. He's definitely not where people predicted he'd be by now. This is totally subjective too but the kid also doesn't exactly exude intelligence- ala Snickers. I'll take Kaaya right now from here on out.

 

[bxcanesbomber]

I called all his Walford tds yesterday we were in tune lol no lie I was telling buddy behind me watch Walford **** was cray

 

[drifters1234]

Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing

Steve Walsh was arguably our best QB, and that's saying a **** of a lot, given the competition.

The guy has ice water in his veins, and delivered consistently in pressure situations. His only loss was 1988 at ND, which was not really loss, considering the Cleveland Gary mystery fumble.

 

[Ispyin]

I love it. No ego, intelligent decisions, calm, distributing the ball with fewer and fewer turnovers.

Im confident with experience Kaaya, like Walsh, will rise to the Occasion when things get tough and become a clutch performer.

He's spectacular because of it, not unspectacular.

 

[eleganttomcat]

unspectacular is definitely not a word I would use to describe Kaaya the Messiah

 

[Gi0logy]

No. Dorsey did more than that. His pre snap reads and time through his progressions after the snap is what made Dorsey. Kaaya isn't close to that yet.

Dorsey could also be INCREDIBLY inaccurate.

You serious right now? 58% 9565 yds 86 td and 28 int with a career rating of 147.4. Hovering around 60% is average but Incredibly inaccurate? That's got to be a joke. Dorsey wasn't a "game manager" or a "product of the system". He was our college Tom Brady. Dude was a gamer, a true cane, and a football genius. Some of you kill me.

I agree, incredibly inaccurate is a an overreaction. However, 58% is not very good.

Systems in the passing game, plus rule changes have increased completion percentages in the last 10 years. 58% 10 years ago doesn't equal 58% today.

Foe instance, in 2001 the NFL league average was 59% compared to 63.4% today.

Good call and good stat. I stand corrected.

 

[Dingaan1828]

Thought exact thing yesterday during the game. He reminds me more and more of Steve Walsh.

Except his arm is much stronger. Come to think of it, so is mine.

Steve Walsh is one of my all-time favorites. Did more with less than any of our top QBs, IMO.

 

[canesplaymaker]

Vinny was spectacular, until the bowl game anyway

 

[dstuart4]

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Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing

IIRC, Walsh led his team to a title in 1987 and would have had another in '88 if were not for some BS referee call against Cleveland Gary in South Bend.
I'll take that.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Thought exact thing yesterday during the game. He reminds me more and more of Steve Walsh.

Except his arm is much stronger. Come to think of it, so is mine.

Steve Walsh is one of my all-time favorites. Did more with less than any of our top QBs, IMO.

Exactly. Always thought a guy like him would make a great coach too. I know he's been doing the high school thing but I'd never object to us offering a slot at some point.

 

[canedoit]

Thought exact thing yesterday during the game. He reminds me more and more of Steve Walsh.

Except his arm is much stronger. Come to think of it, so is mine.

Steve Walsh is one of my all-time favorites. Did more with less than any of our top QBs, IMO.

Exactly. Always thought a guy like him would make a great coach too. I know he's been doing the high school thing but I'd never object to us offering a slot at some point.

Just as others have stated, Walsh was money...The one thing I recall about Walsh, was his back-peddle. He hardly ever turned away from the LOS, straight back and amazingly quick plant and throw movement. Full props to Dennis Erickson for that one back offense he brought to Miami.

 

[Ispyin]

Thought exact thing yesterday during the game. He reminds me more and more of Steve Walsh.

Except his arm is much stronger. Come to think of it, so is mine.

Steve Walsh is one of my all-time favorites. Did more with less than any of our top QBs, IMO.

Exactly. Always thought a guy like him would make a great coach too. I know he's been doing the high school thing but I'd never object to us offering a slot at some point.

Just as others have stated, Walsh was money...The one thing I recall about Walsh, was his back-peddle. He hardly ever turned away from the LOS, straight back and amazingly quick plant and throw movement. Full props to Dennis Erickson for that one back offense he brought to Miami.

Walsh never played under Erickson. Thank you for playing the latest round of I'll make up my own facts.

(Walsh left in supplemental draft of spring 1989, drafted by jimmy who had just taken over. Cowboys Erickson's first season was 1989 with a guy named Craig as his qb)

 

[canedoit]

Thought exact thing yesterday during the game. He reminds me more and more of Steve Walsh.

Except his arm is much stronger. Come to think of it, so is mine.

Steve Walsh is one of my all-time favorites. Did more with less than any of our top QBs, IMO.

Exactly. Always thought a guy like him would make a great coach too. I know he's been doing the high school thing but I'd never object to us offering a slot at some point.

Just as others have stated, Walsh was money...The one thing I recall about Walsh, was his back-peddle. He hardly ever turned away from the LOS, straight back and amazingly quick plant and throw movement. Full props to Dennis Erickson for that one back offense he brought to Miami.

Walsh never played under Erickson. Thank you for playing the latest round of I'll make up my own facts.

(Walsh left in supplemental draft of spring 1989, drafted by jimmy who had just taken over. Cowboys Erickson's first season was 1989 with a guy named Craig as his qb)

Yeah, I had a brainfart watching 89 UM/FSU & just went on typing. Had no intention of joining the making up facts club.

 

[jaxtheknife]

Loved 4th quarter comebacks at home with Walsh...

Dorsey should have won the Heisman...

Kaaya is a gamer...