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Justin Flowe in the portal

Memnon said:
If players making money bothers you that much, don't watch it.

The revenue they generate from TV viewership & ticket sales, is primarily why they're allowed to get paid now.

So if you're someone that is staunchly against players having the opportunity to make money, then you have no other course of action than to stop watching & attending games altogether.
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This will increase exponentially in the years to come. Is this what you want?
 
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Memnon said:
If players making money bothers you that much, don't watch it.

The revenue they generate from TV viewership & ticket sales, is primarily why they're allowed to get paid now.

So if you're someone that is staunchly against players having the opportunity to make money, then you have no other course of action than to stop watching & attending games altogether.
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I agree with you but Justin Flowe isn’t why people watch on TV or pay to have their butts in the stands.

No problem with guys that bring in the revenue getting paid but the 4th string LB that is 25 yrs old isn’t worth $150k
 
ssvir said:
I agree with you but Justin Flowe isn’t why people watch on TV or pay to have their butts in the stands.

No problem with guys that bring in the revenue getting paid but the 4th string LB that is 25 yrs old isn’t worth $150k
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That's on the idiot who decided to pay Justin Flowe.

The slippery slope fallacy of just because Justin Flowe didn't work out with the money that someone may or may not have paid him, so therefore everyone should have their pay capped, is asinine.

We don't actually know how much money Flowe has actually made, none of us have seen a single bank statement that can confirm that he was actually paid that amount. It's just pure speculation.

And even if for arguments sake he was paid that amount, so what? Nobody put a gun to anybody's head & forced them to pay to Justin Flowe. If they did, they need to do more due diligence in their investments & pay attention to film before they write a check.

Jeremiah Smith shouldn't have the amount of money he can make capped because of Justin Flowe.
 
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Memnon said:
That's on the idiot who decided to pay Justin Flowe.

The slippery slope fallacy of just because Justin Flowe didn't work out with the money that someone may or may not have paid, so therfore everyone should have their pay capped is asinine.

We don't actually know how much money Flowe has actually made, none of us have seen a single bank statement that can confirm that he was actually paid that amount. It's just pure speculation.

And even if for arguments sake he was paid that amount, so what? Nobody put a gun to anybody's head & forced them to pay to Justin Flowe. If they did, they need to do more due diligence in their investments & pay attention to film before they write a check.

Jeremiah Smith shouldn't have the amount of money he can make capped because of Justin Flowe.
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I don't have the answer but when mediocre/no-name players are making six figures plus everything else that is received from being a D1 athlete (education, room, food, etc) and guys are transferring multiple times over a 5 year period its not good.

I used to be a hard core college hoops fan and now its virtually unwatchable unless Miami is good.
 
Memnon said:
If players making money bothers you that much, don't watch it.

The revenue they generate from TV viewership & ticket sales, is primarily why they're allowed to get paid now.

So if you're someone that is staunchly against players having the opportunity to make money, then you have no other course of action than to stop watching & attending games altogether.
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Yo fr its like people sayin Jeremiah Smith makin 8m is alot lol u know how much money he made OSU this year its crazy its alot more players than a nfl team too and everybody want money lol i bet its been a **** show with nil meetings 3 times a year smh they deserve to be paid!
 
Memnon said:
If players making money bothers you that much, don't watch it.

The revenue they generate from TV viewership & ticket sales, is primarily why they're allowed to get paid now.

So if you're someone that is staunchly against players having the opportunity to make money, then you have no other course of action than to stop watching & attending games altogether.
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Was having this conversation with my FIL

He was talking about the disparity of college coach salaries, players etc

He said the money should be going to the academic programs

I said hang on real quick lemme turn on the campus debate team what channel is that on?
 
Please keep all posts which espouse free market points of view in the Town Hall. Laissez-faire is for hardworking folks like us- not for (collegr-going adult) kids!

On the main boards we all agree that players should be happy with a free education and three square meals a day, no matter the size of the media deals made by their alma mater.

Head coaches are perfectly within their rights to be given thirty Mercedes-Benz dealerships as in-kind support from rich jock-sniffing alumni boosters.

Paying student-athletes directly threatens the integrity of the game.
 
The question begs: How much money would you give this guy to be ILB 3 and a special teams ace?

He would be a cheap player for us -- I know we wouldn't offer him much...

But this dim wit muscle hamster is a take for a low price!
 
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Wait didn’t Mario sign this kid at Oregon before NIL???

Suspicious Will Smith GIF
 
Memnon said:
If players making money bothers you that much, don't watch it.

The revenue they generate from TV viewership & ticket sales, is primarily why they're allowed to get paid now.

So if you're someone that is staunchly against players having the opportunity to make money, then you have no other course of action than to stop watching & attending games altogether.
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Wild turn there, not at all what I was talking about. Just teams being built through high school recruiting and players being home grown putting on for their respective schools.

Rivalries don’t even feel the same because there’s so much roster turnover that players coming in couldn’t give af which team they’re playing now.

Get the bag idgaf, you want to pay 6 figures for an undersized g5 dlinemen go for it. It’s a slippery slope of a conversation but put guardrails on who can actually represent these kids and they actually have the best interest for them.
 
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Memnon said:
Sports, particularly Football, is the ONLY sector in life in which people wanna control & regulate how much money someone is allowed to make.

If yall had this kinda energy with Wall Street hedge funds & CEO's of major corporations there wouldn't be such a massive cavern in the wealth gap.

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But God forbid, a Football player make some money smh.
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Brother I really don't need any lectures. I see your stance and I understand it cuz all you're thinking of is the money they're making and athletes getting paid. Obviously I wish I could have been getting this when I was in college as well. But I also have to consider the fact we would have never been what we are as a University of Miami if NIL was this. I really don't care about people's opinions when it relates to it because I know firsthand why a good chunk of us became as good as we were. You take that need to do this to eat you take that need to do this to change your family's future away most people are going to lose that hunger. I don't know your financial situations obviously not trying to go that deep into this. But it's a simple fact with most people in life when you take that hunger away from them they become self-centered and entitled. They lose that drive. You want the best football players on your teams or do you want millionaires playing football. As a team if you really have to ask yourself that question then I don't get why everyone on this ******* sight ******* about every little thing. Because all of this combines including everything that goes on with Mario is all a piece of that bigger picture. Nobody in anything I've seen in college sports anymore grinds like they used to. Again not really debating any of this with anyone I see it first hands on a daily basis. I'm glad these kids are making mwith but high school and college that's not the place for you to become a multi-millionaire You're taking the desire of achieving your dreams as a professional away from them. If all you're trying to do is make money and you're making just as much in college in some instances as some people do professionally then where is the desire? Since isn't a matter of wage gaps or any of the rest of that this is a matter of how do you get the best possible high school or college athletes to achieve their peak in the sport that you bring them here for in the sports that they're getting paid to perform in. Do you not see it happening plenty often in the NFL as well?. I made a good chunk of my money in football The majority of it I made in football super glad to see these kids able to eat but I also see the opposite side of the coin and this is not good for amateur sports. You have a good day though smh
 
Brooklyndee said:
Brother I really don't need any lectures. I see your stance and I understand it cuz all you're thinking of is the money they're making and athletes getting paid. Obviously I wish I could have been getting this when I was in college as well. But I also have to consider the fact we would have never been what we are as a University of Miami if NIL was this. I really don't care about people's opinions when it relates to it because I know firsthand why a good chunk of us became as good as we were. You take that need to do this to eat you take that need to do this to change your family's future away most people are going to lose that hunger. I don't know your financial situations obviously not trying to go that deep into this. But it's a simple fact with most people in life when you take that hunger away from them they become self-centered and entitled. They lose that drive. You want the best football players on your teams or do you want millionaires playing football. As a team if you really have to ask yourself that question then I don't get why everyone on this ******* sight ******* about every little thing. Because all of this combines including everything that goes on with Mario is all a piece of that bigger picture. Nobody in anything I've seen in college sports anymore grinds like they used to. Again not really debating any of this with anyone I see it first hands on a daily basis. I'm glad these kids are making mwith but high school and college that's not the place for you to become a multi-millionaire You're taking the desire of achieving your dreams as a professional away from them. If all you're trying to do is make money and you're making just as much in college in some instances as some people do professionally then where is the desire? Since isn't a matter of wage gaps or any of the rest of that this is a matter of how do you get the best possible high school or college athletes to achieve their peak in the sport that you bring them here for in the sports that they're getting paid to perform in. Do you not see it happening plenty often in the NFL as well?. I made a good chunk of my money in football The majority of it I made in football super glad to see these kids able to eat but I also see the opposite side of the coin and this is not good for amateur sports. You have a good day though smh
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Well no putting the geanie back in the battle. College is no longer Amateur Football. The way NIL is currently structured, it'll never be very good. It needs to be collectively bargained, And they need to be actual employees who get actual contracts, with actual repercussions if they choose to play games, and has built in play time/performance driven incentives. No renegotiating 4 times in 1.25 calander years.

Like we could imagine if it was setup more like how it used to be combined with NFL... You have 5 total years to play no matter what (injury or other reason be dammned). All contracts are 2 years, except after year 4 (so can sign 2yr then 2yr then 1 yr). You can only transfer and play if your contract is finished.
And then you have the baseline contract, and escalators that are driven by snap and production metrics relative to the team like conference. Like Rookies in NFL get pre-arranged bonuses determined by the NFL if they outplay their actual contract.

So like if you're a 5star you have a 2year $200K/yr contract with Miami, with performance/snap based incentives to increase it to say $400k/yr for winning starting job, then can add another $400k depending on your actual performance. That's guaranteed 2 years. After that you can renegotiate entering year 3, or transfer, but must sign another 2 year deal....

Everyone can be protected.
 
Brooklyndee said:
Than make sure you don't ever complain(I don't know if you do or not) about the results that come from it.
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The only ones who complain about the results are YALL who get mad the players are able to make money.

You want players to stay unpaid & broke because it could "kill their drive"? WTF kinda insane logic is that?

You're in favor of athletes generating BILLIONS of dollars in revenue & not get any of it, for the sake of a mystified idea about the way they may act as a result of actually being able to earn a living off their talent.

That is absolutely crazy.
 
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